Sci-fi or fantasy?

Started by My 2 sids, October 23, 2009, 11:15:31 PM

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October 23, 2009, 11:15:31 PM
Thunkin said something in the Economics thread that got me thinking...

Is Arm more fantasy or sci-fi based?

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October 23, 2009, 11:18:25 PM #1
Fantasy.
heart of darkness
October 23, 2009, 11:28:16 PM #2
Low-fantasy.
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October 23, 2009, 11:32:07 PM #3
Quote from: My 2 sids on October 23, 2009, 11:15:31 PM
Is Arm more fantasy or sci-fi based?

Yes.
Quote from: Vanth on February 13, 2008, 05:27:50 PM
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October 23, 2009, 11:44:23 PM #4
we got stuck here for the winter
blinded by golden dollar signs
we built some simple structures
temporary not permanent
each year we dug much deeper
each year things got more serious
each year our hearts grew weaker
blinded by golden dollar signs
October 24, 2009, 12:03:20 AM #5
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October 24, 2009, 12:13:10 AM #6
Good read cheese.
Quote from: Cutthroat on September 30, 2008, 10:15:55 PM
> forage artifacts

You find a rusty, armed landmine and pick it up.
October 25, 2009, 11:23:02 AM #7
actually, I was thinking in more literary terms.

Fantasy (like fairy tales) portray societal hopes/ values/ morals  whereas Sci-fi reflects the fears of current society. 

In real life there's a lot of focus on the corruption of big business.   I wonder if that's why suddenly wealth and corruption aren't being focused on in game (even when there is plenty of harshness in land its self, and with the strict hierarchy format of the city-states)

Do you all play in effort to have your PCs rise above their "fate"... or be crushed by it?  (positive-hope or negative-negativity)?
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October 25, 2009, 05:23:21 PM #8
Quote from: My 2 sids on October 25, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
Do you all play in effort to have your PCs rise above their "fate"... or be crushed by it?  (positive-hope or negative-negativity)?

I think this is the perfect place for WarriorPoet to come in and say "I play to chop motherfukerz up with bone swords."
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October 25, 2009, 05:50:42 PM #9
Quote from: Pale Horse on October 25, 2009, 05:23:21 PM
Quote from: My 2 sids on October 25, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
Do you all play in effort to have your PCs rise above their "fate"... or be crushed by it?  (positive-hope or negative-negativity)?

I think this is the perfect place for WarriorPoet to come in and say "I play to chop motherfukerz up with bone swords."
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I play this game to pretend to chop muthafuckaz up with bone swords.
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October 25, 2009, 07:30:31 PM #10
OD&D meets Dune, insert acid, done.
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October 25, 2009, 07:52:48 PM #11
Spiritual Autobiography

I got into a heated argument once by telling someone that sci-fi and fantasy are really the same genre.

It wasn't even with Momma Gimf.
Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.
October 25, 2009, 11:22:04 PM #12
Quote from: Ray Bradbury... fantasy is rarely good fantasy if it wants to be fantasy alone.  Unless it adheres some way, by a literary osmosis, to life, in which realities may pass back and forth and be recognized, then it becomes mere pointless daydreaming.  ....  Good fantasy must be allowed to move casually upon the reader, in the air he breathes.  It must be woven into the story so as to be, at times, almost unrecognizable.

Taken from: A Masterwork of Fantasy - Timeless Stories for Today and Tomorrow.  Edited and with an introduction by Ray Bradbury.

On the contrary, L. Ron Hubbard wrote this in his introduction to "Battlefield Earth"..

Quote from: L. Ron HubbardThe two are, to a professional, separate genres.  I notice today there is a tendency to mingle them and then excuse the result by calling it "imaginative fiction."  Actually they don't mix well: science fiction, to be credible, has to be based on some degree of plausibility; fantasy gives you no limits at all.  Writing science fiction demands care on the part of the author; writing fantasy is as easy as strolling in the park.  (In fantasy, a guy has no sword in his hand; bang, there's a magic sword in his hand.)  This doesn't say one is better than the other.  They are simply very different genres from a professional viewpoint.

October 25, 2009, 11:31:35 PM #13
But I can't take L. Ron Hubbard seriously.
Quote from: Barzalene
Besides if a Jihaen walks in on you, he walked in on you. He can't be too upset if he sees your peepee. He might have a legitimate gripe though if the manner in which you use it isn't subtle.
October 26, 2009, 11:14:03 PM #14
He's managed to brainwash a lot of people into believing some very, amazingly stupid stuff like hasn't been done since the Mormon church. I take him pretty fuckin' seriously.
October 26, 2009, 11:33:17 PM #15
Volcano-dwelling alien masters vs magical invisible bearded man in the sky. Both sound equally plausable, the only differences are is that everyone's long accepted the Catholic infiltration of governmental society, and that it's so old that people think tradition = worth.

But I'm not going to derail.
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October 26, 2009, 11:51:06 PM #16
...

More like


Lol. Ron Hubbard
Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.
October 26, 2009, 11:59:51 PM #17
Quote from: Jdr on October 26, 2009, 11:33:17 PM
But I'm not going to derail.


What do you think your post was then, a dissertation on the differences between science fiction and fantasy?

October 27, 2009, 12:34:48 AM #18
Clearly the catholic church represents science fiction rather than fantasy?
Quote from: Barzalene
Besides if a Jihaen walks in on you, he walked in on you. He can't be too upset if he sees your peepee. He might have a legitimate gripe though if the manner in which you use it isn't subtle.
October 27, 2009, 02:59:54 AM #19
Nah, Catholicism = magic = fantasy.

Scientology = aliens = sci-fi. DUH.
Rickey's Law: People don't want "A story". They want their story.
October 27, 2009, 07:16:35 AM #20
Quote from: Ocotillo on October 25, 2009, 11:31:35 PM
But I can't take L. Ron Hubbard seriously.

He's a good science fiction author, just a bit of a nut.
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October 27, 2009, 08:38:51 AM #21
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on October 27, 2009, 07:16:35 AM
Quote from: Ocotillo on October 25, 2009, 11:31:35 PM
But I can't take L. Ron Hubbard seriously.

He's a good science fiction author

No, he is isn't.
October 27, 2009, 02:21:23 PM #22
Sci Fi
October 29, 2009, 12:27:20 PM #23
Armageddon is not part of a pure genre.  It has too many authors with too many influences.  Some people are telling fantasy stories, some are telling science fiction stories.
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October 29, 2009, 06:00:49 PM #24
Quote from: Morrolan on October 29, 2009, 12:27:20 PM
Armageddon is not part of a pure genre.  It has too many authors with too many influences.  Some people are telling fantasy stories, some are telling science fiction stories.

And some just play this game to chop charactafuckaz up with bone swords.
I seduced the daughters of men
And made the death of them.
I demanded human sacrifices
From the rest of them.
I became the spirit that haunted
And protected them.
And I lived in the tower of flame
But death collected them.
-War is my Destiny, Ill Bill
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