Your Favorite Fantasy

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June 08, 2009, 07:21:38 PM
I'm switching us over from the Amazon store to the Powells Books affiliate program.  So here's your chance to shape that effort and help me figure out what we should be recommending.

What are the three fantasy books that most remind you of the game and why?
What are your three favorite fantasy books of all time?
Are there are books that you relate to specific clans?
June 08, 2009, 07:29:55 PM #1
My favorite fantasy...Well how about the one where this girl dresses up like a maid and begins
to feather my...

Oh wait you mean fantasy books!!!

Three Favs of All Time:
Dune
Dragons of Winter Night
Song of Fire and Ice

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June 08, 2009, 08:13:23 PM #2
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June 08, 2009, 08:13:54 PM #3
The Thief's World series
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thieves%27_World

Definitely reminds me of Allanak, with some nobility, a labyrinth area called the 'maze', and some temples for magick.



Robin Hobb's 3 series are pretty entertaining:
The Farseer Trilogy
Liveship Traders Trilogy
The Tawny Man Trilogy

I wouldn't say it reminds me of anything in ArmageddonMUD, but just as a good read it's enjoyable.



Frank Herbert's Whipping Star and The Dosadi Experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_Star
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dosadi_Experiment

Though it is SyFy, the world of Dosadi reminds me what Allanak could of been.


All of these books are actually listed in the bookstore right now.
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June 08, 2009, 08:37:26 PM #4
Memory, Sorrow and Thorn. - Tad Williams

Otherland. - Tad Williams

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June 08, 2009, 08:40:20 PM #5 Last Edit: June 08, 2009, 08:52:01 PM by Lizzie
This might sound strange, but the Oankalis of Octavia Butler's world in Lilith's Brood remind me of a combination of mindbenders, desert elves, dwarven focii, and gatherer/sorcerers.

Edited because I was thinking about blood when I typed it. Brood, not Blood!
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June 08, 2009, 08:42:55 PM #6
Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos novels
June 08, 2009, 08:50:52 PM #7
C.J. Cherryh's Faded Sun trilogy.

There aren't any honor-based societies in Zalanthas -quite- equivalent to the Mri.. but. Well, it's definitely hard to shake the feeling that desert elves are like a combination of the Mri and the Regul. Fantastic books with extremely well developed racial culture.
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June 08, 2009, 09:10:14 PM #8
The Coldfire Trilogy by C.S. Friedman.
June 08, 2009, 09:15:01 PM #9
I don't read a lot of fantasy. Some of the stories in Jose Luis Borges' Labyrinths are Zalanthy, though.
June 08, 2009, 09:33:29 PM #10
For fantasy that I related to Armageddon in some way that hasn't yet been mentioned, these two series:

The Deathgate Cycle by Weis and Hickman in particular Into the Labyrinth, the labyrinth depicted there was very scary and tres awesome.

Daughter of the Empire by Feist and Wurts. I liked the political intrigue, backstabbing, deal making and so on. A very good intro for an Allanaki noble and I think the spymaster was all that is cunning.
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June 08, 2009, 10:10:21 PM #11
Quote from: aphex on June 08, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
C.J. Cherryh's Faded Sun trilogy.

There aren't any honor-based societies in Zalanthas -quite- equivalent to the Mri.. but. Well, it's definitely hard to shake the feeling that desert elves are like a combination of the Mri and the Regul. Fantastic books with extremely well developed racial culture.

These books were awful... It was like physical torture. Sorry. Each to their own and all, but... Ick. To be fair there are some very neat descriptions of the environments in particular that I felt were very Zalanthan in feeling.

My own:

Bernard Cornwell's Warlord Chronicles. They aren't fantasy so much as historical fiction but these books have soooooooooo many characters that would fit right in on Zalanthas with plenty of dark-age sorcery that's done in a way that could be explained rationally but still has an arcane feel to it. Filled with murder, corruption, betrayal, sex, love, lust, gore, battle, swords, and asskickery. I tout them every chance I get and finally got ONE person to read them, mood, and he agrees they're excellent reading and very Zalanthan. The Merlin character in particular seems to be plucked right out of Arm. READ THESE BOOKS. DAMN IT. READ THEM. STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND GO BUY THEM IMMEDIATELY. The books, in order, are The Winter King, Enemy of God, and Excalibur. The trilogy as a whole is the Warlord Chronicles.

I'll throw my vote in with Ice and Fire as well, for the politicking.
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June 08, 2009, 10:41:21 PM #12


Matthew Stover - Heroes Die

It's a fantasy world where 'actors' from a thoroughly dystopian version of ours pop over and assume the roles of heroes. They go on adventures, fight battles, loot and murder and generally fuck things up for the natives. Then their experiences are are played back as entertainment for the downtrodden masses.

This reminds me of Arm for fairly obvious reasons.


And my other two favourites:

Richard Morgan - The Steel Remains (A just plain thoroughly badass subversion of the fantasy genre.)
Scott Lynch - The Lies of Locke Lamora (Downright clever in all sorts of Machiavellian ways.)


My list also includes any and all sequels to the above books.
June 08, 2009, 10:47:15 PM #13
Quote from: Mechafish on June 08, 2009, 08:42:55 PM
Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos novels
An obvious choice for me as well.  They're about murder, racism, and money.  And everyone's solution is to kill the people in their way.  Well, not everyone.   Just the main character.  And his friends.  And the gods.  And the empire.  Okay, everyone with weapons...

Also, Dune--Sand, spice, storms, intrigue, and knife-fighting.

And Eaters of the Dead, which later became the move (and book) 13th Warrior.  It chronicles the travels of one man through other cultures, with a very medieval perspective.

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June 09, 2009, 02:09:17 AM #14
Quote from: Morrolan on June 08, 2009, 10:47:15 PM
And Eaters of the Dead, which later became the move (and book) 13th Warrior.  It chronicles the travels of one man through other cultures, with a very medieval perspective.

Quote from: Grey Area on June 08, 2009, 10:41:21 PM
Richard Morgan - The Steel Remains (A just plain thoroughly badass subversion of the fantasy genre.)
Scott Lynch - The Lies of Locke Lamora (Downright clever in all sorts of Machiavellian ways.)

Looks like I already got beat to the punch on most of the things I was going to mention, however, I do have a question.

How about nonfiction books? There are a few nonfictional books that I've picked up / seen around over the years that could be both Armageddon RP-inspiring and more informative as to how things in a Zalanthan culture would work.
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June 09, 2009, 02:29:37 AM #15
Some of my favorite fantasy books of all time are:

Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrel, by Susannah Clarke
The Temeraire series by Naomi Novik (all five, but esp. the first one)
His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman

Books that remind me of Armageddon a little bit are:

The Blade Itself by Joe Abercrombie
The Lies of Locke Lamora - Scott Lynch (already mentioned but worth another, because seriously.)
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June 09, 2009, 02:42:06 AM #16
Quarantine --

This book has it all. Fat merchants. Crazy tribal rangers. Desert mystics. Etc.

It's not strictly fantasy, persay, but it is based on fantasty & legend. (Just read the intro, by the authors of 'the Limits of Mortality').

Now the merchant in this book is truely Zalanthan (may he be an inspiration to us all). He's really something else . . . completely unscrupulous, rage driven, and wild; he would have even a few 'rinthers twitching in their cracked boots at the presence of him. This man could sell starvation.

For those who would like schooling/inspiration in RL desert culture, folklore and tribal superstitions--this book is completely built on them. I take this book by my desk and read from it whenever things start getting dull IG. (Better than going out and doing something stupid, I suppose.  ;))

...

Read it, be inspired; you'll find it to be a [very] hard book to put down. Cheers.
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with them, Shiva smiles, he laughs, our god."   --Basava
June 09, 2009, 02:54:46 AM #17
The Black Company is utterly awesome.
Malazan Book of the Fallen is another great fantasy/war series. Gardens of the Moon, etc.

Most anything by Tad Williams (Otherland, Memory Sorrow and Thorn in particular, War of the Flowers was iffy and haven't read Shadowmarch, yet.)

Armor by John Steakley, weirdly enough, even though that's not fantasy and is most definitely sci fi.
Does Neverwhere count? Cause if so, yes. For some reason, the Rinth always reminds me a little of it.
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June 09, 2009, 12:08:13 PM #18
Nonfiction books are a great idea, I'll work on adding a section of those as well if people have suggestions for either RP-inspiring and/or informative about the game world.
June 09, 2009, 12:18:14 PM #19
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. - It's a fantastic debut novel, I demand you all read it.
I'll second the Black Company novels.
Nearly anything by David Gemmel, he's a master of heroic fiction. You just can't help but love his heroes.
June 09, 2009, 12:43:56 PM #20
Black Company novels are great.  I agree with that choice.  (just read them a month ago)
June 09, 2009, 08:54:46 PM #21
I don't read a whole lot of fantasy, but the ones that pop to mind are

A Song of Ice and Fire by George R. R. Martin
Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman
Small Gods by Terry Pratchett

I'll also throw in a bonus selection of We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson. It isn't fantasy, more horror, but it's great book, and it's a story that could happen in Zalanthas.
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June 09, 2009, 09:09:37 PM #22
The Drenai series by David Gemmel. Especially Legend (AKA Against the Horde). A masterpiece.
June 09, 2009, 09:35:01 PM #23
I second the Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson.

The diversity of cultures, the harshness of the world, and the plethora of character types. I'm on the seventh book of the series now and I've been getting plenty of character concept idea from the book.
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June 09, 2009, 09:47:09 PM #24
The Chung Kuo series is way up there on my list. In terms of sheer plastile grit, politics, and intrigue, it well-outshines Dune (which I could never finish anyway...). Wingrove is a master of it, he interweaves it like an elaborate ecosystem. The setting is unique in that it features only seven vast continent-spanning cities and some farmland as well. It has some  (once civilized) environments that are so poor and desolate people can't even afford light and must resort to cannibalizing their neighbours (because they, forgotten in the construction of the cities, decided they wanted to stay on solid earth, and so when the cities were built, everything got built over top them). There are two sides of this book, Yin and Yang, measured in such a way as to make the whole series seem quite ambiguous in terms of conflict and character. One side is arbitrary and tyranical--but offers stability, while the other is more devious and terrorist-like--but yields change.

Books in the Series:

The Middle Kingdom (1989)
The Broken Wheel (1990)
The White Mountain (1992)
The Stone Within (1993)
Beneath the Tree of Heaven (1994)
White Moon, Red Dragon (1994)
Days of Bitter Strength (1997)
The Marriage of the Living Dark (1999)

(Wikipedia Entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chung_Kuo)

Also, no one's mentioned -ANY- of the Darksun series ? Blah. (There are so many of them !)

Prism Pentad - Troy Denning

The Verdant Passage
The Crimson Legion
The Amber Enchantress
The Obsidian Oracle
The Cerulean Storm

Tribe of One - Simon Hawke

The Outcast
The Seeker
The Nomad

Chronicles of Athas - V/A

The Brazen Gambit
The Darkness Before the Dawn
The Broken Blade
Cinnabar Shadows
The Rise & Fall of a Dragon King
"When the spirits read the writing on the skulls Shiva wears
around his neck, they know, 'This one is Brahma, this one is
Vishnu, this one is Indra, this is death,' as they play happily
with them, Shiva smiles, he laughs, our god."   --Basava
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