An Armageddon Wiki

[NoteworthyFellow]

I know this has been brought up before, and I'm not sure if one is already in the works, but I'd really love to see an Armageddon wiki with extensive documentation that can change more frequently than the documentation available on the website.  It's taboo around here to mention other RPI MUDs, but there is at least one with a rather impressive wiki to which I'll go ahead and link: http://www.shadowsofisildur.com/soiwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

It's an imperfect example, as there are some things that I wouldn't want to see on an Armageddon Wiki (such as a page listing famous PCs that are still alive, though I wouldn't mind seeing a page listing famous PCs who've been dead over a year).

My suggestion on this topic has always been that contributors be required to register, that most contributors would be registered Helpers, and that all changed submitted would have to be approved by the MUD staff before they become visible to the general readers.  I'm willing to help in whatever way I can, personally, as well, even though I'm not a registered Helper, since if I'm going to suggest the idea, I sure as Krath should be willing to back it, right?

Any discussion?  Tired of the topic?  Already in the works and/or officially shot down?

[FuSoYa]

I'd love to have one but on the same note I'm not willing to devote any time to working on it.

That being said, if the staff would back someone up and be willing to approve content for one I would be so happy.

Brandon

[SMuz]

I'd love to see it. In fact, I'd sort of like the documentation to be copied onto the wiki, because it becomes easier to search for it. And it's good for all those articles and guides that end up on the forums.

[Mechafish]

I agree with the idea, if the staff can keep it up.

[Pale Horse]

If I remember right, the last time this idea was brought up, the idea was shot down by Staff.

[Yam]

A staff only wiki currently exists. I seem to remember Sanvean stating that she may release portions to the players at some point.

EDIT:

Here you go.

http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,19901.0.html
http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,22608.0.html
http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,30025.0.html

[Adhira]

We have two staff only wiki's that we use for documentation, recording history and brainstorming new ideas.

We are looking at different ways to update our website, this is not likely to be a wiki. more likely to be a CMS that all staff can easily access. This would still be a staff only update scenario, we would continue to take submissions from players for content as we do now.

[Nyr]

If I remember right, the last time this idea was brought up, the idea was shot down by Staff.

The last time it was brought up, I think a few players created a site and began copying information over to it, hoping that asking forgiveness would be better than asking permission.  Since then, much discussion has ensued. 

As Adhira said, we're probably going to be using a CMS that is a lot less hassle (and looks a lot more modern than our current site).

[Taven]

Yam's links were interesting and hselpful, and here's an old staff quote that I think summerizes the staff position well:

The risk of a public wiki would be primarily of people publishing more information than should be known, as often happens here.  At least here, the format is less authoratative and it is more obvious who is posting what.  Also, particular posts in violation of the IC posting rules are very easily removed, whereas a wiki might be more of a headache to properly maintain.

We have a staff wiki that works very well for collecting and organizing information which we occasionally return to you in the form of better documentation, and it definitely helps us keep better historical tracking for the game.

-- X

We have two staff only wiki's that we use for documentation, recording history and brainstorming new ideas.

We are looking at different ways to update our website, this is not likely to be a wiki. more likely to be a CMS that all staff can easily access. This would still be a staff only update scenario, we would continue to take submissions from players for content as we do now.

For those of you who had to look up what a CMS was, like I did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

As staff keep saying, there's the option of submitting things. Not only Original Submissions of logs, artwork, songs, etc., but also the option to submit a record of your character for the staff history wiki (at least, you used to be as par the last of Yam's links) and you can also submit ideas/suggestions for the website. A number of sections on the main site were contributed by players.

I think the players can get a little frustrated with the length of time all that takes, as Staff are kept busy by a number of things, but the concern about providing accuerate and non-IC info is a a valid one. Also, I imagine that while staff is giving love to the current Arm, that doing any MAJOR site changes or such would be seen as something that will be brought in with Arm 2 and new information.

I think another lure of the wiki option from Players is that you can TELL what's being worked on, and rather then work completely alone on a project easily be able to work with others. Without a wiki, that can potentially still work, if players are willing to take the extra steps. I'm a great fan of my own thread (I wonder why?) where ideas about the site get tossed around some, and the infamous Wiki got started and ended. http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,33302.0.html