Notability of MUDs in general; Armageddon in specific

[staggerlee]

I'd like to see Richard Bartle talk out on the issue. I'm sure he could lecture long enough about it.. and with all his talk about how modern MMOs should have player death, I'm sure he'll love Armageddon if he doesn't already.

I don't think I'd enjoy a mmorpg with player death.

Wikipedia has an article on wargames. Who plays wargames anymore? It even has a long article on the Zip drive, which doesn't even have any historical or practical significance, aside from failing. MUDs are a significant part of multiplayer RPG history and people still play them.

Arm has always been out there. It's spread almost purely by word of mouth and quite a lot of people who enter stay. I think if any MUDs would survive a major MUD wipeout, it's Arm. And maybe DartMUD, Shattered Kingdoms, Treshold, Firan, GodWars, Shattered Kingdoms, The Eternal City, and one of those furry ones for Krath knows why.

Independently published sources, it's a citation issue, not a matter of value or significance. Your answer and solution are in my previous comments.

[Chettaman]

MMO with player death wouldn't last long - unless making characters was easy as taking a crap. But I don't think I'd enjoy it either. It would be like runescape on diablo's hardcore difficulty.

[SMuz]

Well, Dr. Bartle did write a lot on player death. Basically, he summarizes it as one of those things gamers either love or hate, but without it, there won't ever be any achievement in the game. Ever since playing Arm, I've stopped playing non-PD games. The grinding on non-PD games is just too boring and time-wasting to be fun.

Anyway, I've recently noticed that almost every single article that mentions RPI games always mention Armageddon. I think that should be more than enough to make Arm notable.

[Krath]

I think if any MUDs would survive a major MUD wipeout, it's Arm. And maybe DartMUD, Shattered Kingdoms, Treshold, Firan, GodWars, Shattered Kingdoms, The Eternal City, and one of those furry ones for Krath knows why.

I do not know why, I hate furries!

[Angela Christine]

I think if any MUDs would survive a major MUD wipeout, it's Arm. And maybe DartMUD, Shattered Kingdoms, Treshold, Firan, GodWars, Shattered Kingdoms, The Eternal City, and one of those furry ones for Krath knows why.

I do not know why, I hate furries!

There is nothing sexier than an anthropomorphic catwoman with 8 boobies.