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[fourTwenty]

I'm pretty sure whisper does -not- break hide. At least it didn't a few weeks ago.
It really should, especially if the hidden player is emoting physical contact.



Edit to add: I really -really- think hidden players shouldn't  emote physical contact

[staggerlee]

I'm pretty sure whisper does -not- break hide. At least it didn't a few weeks ago.
It really should, especially if the hidden player is emoting physical contact.



Edit to add: I really -really- think hidden players shouldn't  emote physical contact

I'm pretty sure an emote or speaking break hide.  There are however other methods of concealment that are much more generous as to what they allow you to do.

[Gimfalisette]

Emotes of any kind do not break hide. Speaking breaks hide. Whisper I'm not sure about now, but it used to break hide for sure.

[staggerlee]

Emotes of any kind do not break hide. Speaking breaks hide. Whisper I'm not sure about now, but it used to break hide for sure.

Really? I thought emote reflected visibly, and hemote was for subtle or audible things? That's surprising... but doesn't change things much.

[fourTwenty]

Well, It(whisper) didn't in this case. Though they may not have been "hidden".
Emoting does not break hide.

Again though, emoting physical contact while hidden kinda pissed me off. I mean, if you can touch me I ought to be able to touch you.

[staggerlee]

Well, It(whisper) didn't in this case. Though they may not have been "hidden".
Emoting does not break hide.

Again though, emoting physical contact while hidden kinda pissed me off. I mean, if you can touch me I ought to be able to touch you.

Generally, assume good intent.  They may well have been ridiculously skilled or hidden through unconventional means.
In some circumstances you're probably right, it's a judgement call though.  If some kind of serious trouble resulted from it or its an ongoing problem you can always send a complaint to the staff and let them look into it.

The title of this thread makes my head hurt.

[Gimfalisette]

Emotes of any kind do not break hide. Speaking breaks hide. Whisper I'm not sure about now, but it used to break hide for sure.

Really? I thought emote reflected visibly, and hemote was for subtle or audible things? That's surprising... but doesn't change things much.

A regular-old emote where the PC is hidden will come out looking like this:

You type...

Code Select Expand

emote In the crowd, @ giggles

They see...

Code Select Expand

In the crowd, someone giggles.

Again though, emoting physical contact while hidden kinda pissed me off. I mean, if you can touch me I ought to be able to touch you.

One of my PCs had kind of a stalker who did that a few instances over a period of time. It was pretty fun. I just played it off as there was enough of a crowd around that I didn't see exactly who touched my PC. I think it's fine as long as the environment has sufficient PCs / NPCs / VNPCs in it to explain the hiddenness.

[fourTwenty]

One of my PCs had kind of a stalker who did that a few instances over a period of time. It was pretty fun. I just played it off as there was enough of a crowd around that I didn't see exactly who touched my PC. I think it's fine as long as the environment has sufficient PCs / NPCs / VNPCs in it to explain the hiddenness.

Yeah, I played along with it IG, jumping up, staring angrily around, mumbling threats. But the position I was at nobody would be that close behind me. Especially after the first time I stood up drew my sword o' doom an' told everybody to back the feck up. I just don't think it should be possible to sneak up on somebody, poke them in the side, and whisper in their ear. I mean there's a point where it goes beyond insanely skilled to really pushing my immersion.

[Clearsighted]

One of my PCs had kind of a stalker who did that a few instances over a period of time. It was pretty fun. I just played it off as there was enough of a crowd around that I didn't see exactly who touched my PC. I think it's fine as long as the environment has sufficient PCs / NPCs / VNPCs in it to explain the hiddenness.

Yeah, I played along with it IG, jumping up, staring angrily around, mumbling threats. But the position I was at nobody would be that close behind me. Especially after the first time I stood up drew my sword o' doom an' told everybody to back the feck up. I just don't think it should be possible to sneak up on somebody, poke them in the side, and whisper in their ear. I mean there's a point where it goes beyond insanely skilled to really pushing my immersion.

Agreed.

[a strange shadow]

If it were me, I would assume the best of the player, and that it is all IC.

So from that, make your own (in-game) assumptions about how someone could pull all that off.