Save room weight limits

[Salt Merchant]

I suggest that these be eliminated (i.e. no more "There's no more room for that here" messages). Face it, people use all sorts of tricks to get around the limits anyhow, so they just represent an inconvenience in trying to organize a room.

Plus, the limits seem a bit small to begin with.

[Shiroi Tsuki]

Some people's rooms are already crazy full of stuff as it is.  However, there are some rooms I just don't understand.

Which is to say, I don't know that I support completely unlimiting them, but I think some limits should be more realistic.

[Haze]

The limits were put in years ago because, after years and years, some save rooms had MASSIVE amounts of stuff in them.  There was so much stuff over so many save rooms that it was lagging the game.

I fully support weight limits over lag.

[Salt Merchant]

The limits were put in years ago because, after years and years, some save rooms had MASSIVE amounts of stuff in them.  There was so much stuff over so many save rooms that it was lagging the game.

I fully support weight limits over lag.

Please read my original post? My point is that these limits are not working. People use containers, and objects that can have other objects set upon them, and even spells(!) to get around the limits. The limits accomplish nothing but to create disorder.

If a clan's save room gets too cluttered, as a staff member I'd deal with it by animating some senior NPC and telling the junior PCs to straighten it out and give them a deadline to do so. Failure to comply would result in everything being tossed. This would have the additional benefit of giving clan members something to do! Also, I see no reason why everything has to be saved at once. A staggered save (spreading the load out over time) would deal with any server lag issues. And it should be possible to build a reporting mechanism into the code so that the worst offenders are apparent in some list on demand.

[Haze]

People use containers, and objects that can have other objects set upon them, and even spells(!) to get around the limits.

Are people able to create unlimited space using these tricks?  From what I've seen, they can create SOME space, but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be before the limits went in.

[Salt Merchant]

Are people able to create unlimited space using these tricks?  From what I've seen, they can create SOME space, but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be before the limits went in.

Pretty much. Large bags by themselves weigh almost nothing, for example. Carpet the floor with them and then fill them to your heart's content. Put a mat in and carpet that with them too!

[Mood]

People use containers, and objects that can have other objects set upon them, and even spells(!) to get around the limits.

Are people able to create unlimited space using these tricks?  From what I've seen, they can create SOME space, but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be before the limits went in.

From my experience... yeah.

[Haze]

If that's the case, don't you think it should just be reported to staff as abuse, or simply resolved by clan leaders through mass sell-offs or the junk command?  There's clearly an intent to circumvent the coded limitations by doing this, and it really just doesn't make much sense in-game.

It's a nice feature to let containers in a room expand the available space because we can utilize that in a way that makes sense, but if people are abusing it with a carpet of large bags, then we probably just need to show a little restraint and police ourselves.

Is it possible that this could be creating the lag problems people have been having lately?

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

Nah, this has nothing to do with the sort of lag we are having now. The lag related to oversaving was of a different sort. It wouldn't disconnect you - it just lagged everything you did.

[Yam]

I'm pretty sure that 'oversaving' would not cause lag problems anymore since ginka is no longer a Commodore 64.

[Mood]

and it really just doesn't make much sense in-game.

What doesn't make sense is that my character is physically incapable of depositing something so small as a feather in a room without codely dragging it in.

I'm pretty sure that 'oversaving' would not cause lag problems anymore since ginka is no longer a Commodore 64.

+1

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

What doesn't make sense is that my character is physically incapable of depositing something so small as a feather in a room without codely dragging it in.

>drop feather
This room is over crowded - are you sure you want to do that?

>drop feather
You drop a golden feather, which disappears under all of the mess in this room.

....after emptying the room....

>forage
You find a golden feather.

Heh. That would be kinda cool, actually.

[Mood]

>get bag
You get a plain bag of cloth.
It is very heavy.

>get feather
You get a dusky black feather.
It is very light.

>drop feather (sighing)
Sighing, you drop a dusky black feather, which settles to the ground.

>drop bag (shaking ^me head)
Shaking your head, you drop a plain bag of cloth, which settles to the ground.

>tell amos (wiping some sweat from ^me brow) A few more chunks of 'sid should do it, I guess.
Wiping some sweat from your brow, you say to the tall, muscular man, in southern-accented humanish:
   "A few more chunks of 'sid should do it, I guess."

[Archbaron]

What doesn't make sense is that my character is physically incapable of depositing something so small as a feather in a room without codely dragging it in.

>drop feather
This room is over crowded - are you sure you want to do that?

>drop feather
You drop a golden feather, which disappears under all of the mess in this room.

....after emptying the room....

>forage
You find a golden feather.

Heh. That would be kinda cool, actually.

Yes please.

[Dalmeth]

You all do realize, of course, that the weight limits include the weight of the room do take the weight of what's in the objects into account?  These tricks you mention are nonexistent.

[FantasyWriter]

You all do realize, of course, that the weight limits include the weight of the room do take the weight of what's in the objects into account?  These tricks you mention are nonexistent.

That's why you drop the containers in all empty, and THEN fill them up.

nOObs, these days, bah.

j/k dude!

[Qzzrbl]

You know what all this tells me?

The game needs more burglars.

[Mood]

You know what all this tells me?

The game needs more burglars.

Or, y'know... less arbitrary, antiquated caps on things of this nature.