Lockpicks and rarity

[Socko]

Burglars are fun. My biggest gripe with the burglar class, however, was in finding ample doors to pick. Once you get that tool, finding places to practice is a whole 'nother ballgame. You have to be very creative, either way.

Just don't be afraid to talk to people and network and ask people in-game. Sometimes it's the only way, you know?

[Adhira]

I think people have been as helpful as they can be with regards to answering this question:

Question - are lockpicks too hard to find

Answer - No they aren't, they're there if you know how to look for them.

Question - Where can they be found.

Answer: Find out IC. Should it be find out IC yes. Every one of the people who say they're easy to find should have (I hope) found them ICly, themselves. Proving it can be done.

Now, to add on to the find out IC answer some clues were given. ie Ask a Templar in the North. Go to shadier parts of town. Ask around in game.

All things that will add to the RP now that the player has had it confirmed that they can be found, if they're up to putting in the effort needed, ICly, to find them.

[jmordetsky]

I can't speak for Tuluk. If you want lockpicks in allanak, looking around for a "shop" to buy them in is a bit silly.

As to the question that always comes up after "Find out IC", which is obviously, "How do I find out IC?"

Think of it this way. If you wanted to buy a lock pick in RL? How would you go about it. First thing you would do is ask a local thief. Where do you find a local thief? Well, check some of the shadier establishements where said people might be found.

If you go about your search in this fashion, by looking for PCs and working with them (IE involving other players) you will succeed. I'm sure of it.

[Manhattan]

Poor newbies  
This game's learning curve bars out a lot of potential players.
I'll help you guys out.

Lockpicks in Tuluk are not exactly... in the city itself.
Lockpicks in Allanak can be found in the 'rinth. Be wary of the skinnies.

There, I think I've already shared enough information.

Editted to add: Lockpicks are NOT easy to obtain. Stop giving newbies false hope. Christ. There's certain syntax they need to enter once they're even AT the place where lockpicks can be found.

[X-D]

I've never played a burgler, Yet, I know exactly where to get lockpicks in both cities. And I found them IG with pc's such as rangers and warriors, on accident...heh.

They are easy to find.

Normaly it is also quite easy to find somebody IG who knows and either have them get them for you...at a price of course or point you in the right direction....also probly at a price.

[John]

Now that I (unfortunately, although I realize people were only trying to be helpful) do know where they are in Allanak. It isn't easy. To say it's easy to find them is being dishonest. It's easy to get them ONCE you know where they are. But it isn't easy to find them.

[Sir Diealot]

It is simple, but you will have to be familiar with the commands.  Unfortunately, its an underutilized command.  Read room descs, and know what that command can do.

This thread is pretty much done.  Can we get it locked?

[LauraMars]

This thread is pretty much done.  Can we get it locked?

Seconded.

[SirHelpsAlot?]

Sir Diealot (and others offering quick hints),

I certainly hope that the level of IC information that you are proliferating here is not an indication of the degree to which you reveal such things to those new players looking for a 'helper'.

The initial question is being asked out of frustration and a lack of knowledge... both of which are alleviated through continued play and exploration within the game world itself. No hints are needed.. The only suggestion would be for the player to show more patience. The prospective Burglar has plenty of skills that can be employed up to the point a pick is required.

Just because 'pick' is a primary skill for a Burglar doesn't mean your character needs to start the game immediately trying to pick locks... And infact one major suggestion to new players would be that they realize when making their background that they are starting the game with MINIMAL skill.. So don't put in the background that you've been a master locksmith or that you've been picking locks since you were a boy. The fact is that your PC starts with little to no skill in the area so you get to RP gaining this skill.

In short, don't rush.. take your time. Set a number of goals, if you're having trouble acheiving one, table it and move to another. There are lots of picks in the game, different sizes shapes and colors, many people have them, the odds of your eventually getting one are really quite high. You just have to be patient. There are no free meals here, you have to work for it.

And please... you helpful bunch of bastards... stop giving away so much.

[Sir Diealot]

Relax man.  All I said was that it was a syntax issue.  If you have a problem with it, talk to me, don't hide behind some idiotic, attempt-at-irony psuedonym.  I have plenty of contact info listed.

And, do not derail the thread.  Its over, done, and finished.  You are adding nothing new, save a thinly veiled attack against one person, and an attempt at sounding superior.

[Arbonne]

Relax man.  All I said was that it was a syntax issue.  If you have a problem with it, talk to me, don't hide behind some idiotic, attempt-at-irony psuedonym.  I have plenty of contact info listed.

And, do not derail the thread.  Its over, done, and finished.  You are adding nothing new, save a thinly veiled attack against one person, and an attempt at sounding superior.

And yet, even syntax issues give away IC information that not all new characters had. It's giving those reading this thread an advantage that other burglars in the past didn't have, yet most found out such information through OOC patience and IC perseverance. And I think what the guest wanted to say was that those hints were not needed to be given out. Those were things that are apart of learning the game from a new players perspective, IMO. Though others may want to get right down to finding that pick and stealing, others may with to learn how to get that by their own, through their own (crazy, ingenious, long, but exciting) methods.  :wink:

[Morgenes]

This thread is done.