animal hunting you

[adrien]

it is not a complaint about law by me, just wondering why don't the animals notice 5 super guards and a few haf-giants with obsidian gear and nasty attituded


everything has the will to live... i think them hunting you down to gates is stupid it would be cooler if they waited till you came out

[Cuusardo]

Gortok : A common type of canine in the northlands, the gortok are well-known as wild predatory scavengers with a strong pack mentality. They are not known for particular intelligence or cleanliness, but are quite hardy, capable of loping great distances after their slowly tiring prey before moving in with their vise-like jaws. Their hides often become an all but useless mass of scar tissue due to the constant fighting amongst themselves or the wounds recieved during a hunt.

[Khorm]

The gortok was used only as an example. Raptors behave in the exaxt same fashion, as does any other animal with the ability to track.

[Salt Merchant]

it is not a complaint about law by me, just wondering why don't the animals notice 5 super guards and a few haf-giants with obsidian gear and nasty attituded

It's because if they just gave up the hunt at that point, vicious animals would tend to accumulate outside city gates. Then people would get pounced on, or PCs would sit inside the gates and bring the animal down with arrows.

A possible solution to this would be to have flagged rooms semicircling the gates. If the beast tries to move into one of those, the hunt is off. At that point, it could start tracking some invisible and untouchable pseudo creature created in the place it started the hunt and go back to the wilderness. This has been suggested before, though, so likely there's some difficulty involved in coding it.

[IAmJacksOpinion]

just wondering why don't the animals notice 5 super guards and a few haf-giants with obsidian gear and nasty attituded

That's like saying a rabid dog wouldn't attack you because you were holding a gun. A beast is just that: A beast. It doesn't realise the odds. It doesn't realise that the guards outnumber it because it can't count. It doesn't know that they'll all kill it on sight. And it doesn't realise that any single one of them  could rape it down without breaking a sweat. In it's mind, fighting prowess is all on size. It wouldn't attack that half-giant, but it could probably take that human that isn't too much bigger than it.

It especially, ESPECIALLY doesn't realise that it's opponent is armed and armored (assuming it even realises these bipedal creatures as hostile). It has no clue why that thing is holding that long, sharp chunk of stone or why it's skin is so wierd, going from thick chitinous shelled torso, to studded legs, to spikey, thick-skinned wrists, to skinless head of bone. All it knows is "Hey, he's not too much bigger than me. I have razor sharp teeth and have been able to kill or escape everything I've fought so far. Why should this one be any different?"

Rodney King wouldn't walk up to a Klansman barbeque and grab a chicken wing, but a dog would. (granted they'd only shoo the dog, where as they'd lynch King)

Maybe an experienced beast would say "Hey! Last time I fought something that looked like that it beat the living snot out of me and I had to hide in a cave for three full days and lick the small piece of skin that held my paw to my leg." But I doubt any beast has survived a tangle with a guardsman.

Yes, it's realistic for some beasts to follow you. You're entering a heavily populated area. Lots of food for it. It could easily get it's fill here and walk out alive. However gith should know better than to follow you into the city.

Guardsmen pinning you for it? Yes, it should be illegal. You're putting the guards and everyone anywhere near the gates and/or surrounding farms in trouble.

Guardsmen finding you in the tavern a few hours later? Ah... Nah? It's sensitive, like the sneak post that pops up every two months. But not quite as. If I were a guardsman and I was polishing the statue when a man walked through, I'd nod and call it a day. If three hours later I was still spit shining that baby when a mek showed up, I could in no way, shape or form connect that man with that mek. Now, if he came through with a talon protruding from his left eye and blood from head to toe on an exhausted kank I would remember. If he came through covered in blood saying "Damned spiders." I would remember. If he came through a little dusty and riding an energetic kank, he would be one of 1000.

I work at a small town gas station and countless are the times when someone makes a comment like "I was just through here a couple hours ago." as if they expect me to remember them. I live in a town of 800 people. Even there I can only remember the faces I see regularly, or know. Joe Schmoe in his Packer jacket bought a soda? So did a thousand other paple. Pepe the exchange student from the Amazon who wears loin cloths around comes through, and trust me. I'll remember not only seeing him, but what he bought.

Unless the PC is extremely battered or is on the scene when the critter comes through, it should be ignored completely. Any investigation would be an exercise in futility.

[Ghost]

That's like saying a rabid dog wouldn't attack you because you were holding a gun. A beast is just that: A beast. It doesn't realise the odds. It doesn't realise that the guards outnumber it because it can't count. It doesn't know that they'll all kill it on sight.

Well that is just not true.  The beasts can count.   That is why a lion rapes a jackhal alone but runs the hell away if it sees a pack of them.  
(Well, don't count this as a scientific verification, it is all watching discovery channel sometimes.)

[Vesperas]

That's like saying a rabid dog wouldn't attack you because you were holding a gun. A beast is just that: A beast. It doesn't realise the odds. It doesn't realise that the guards outnumber it because it can't count. It doesn't know that they'll all kill it on sight.

Well that is just not true.  The beasts can count.   That is why a lion rapes a jackhal alone but runs the hell away if it sees a pack of them.  
(Well, don't count this as a scientific verification, it is all watching discovery channel sometimes.)

Just to clarify, rabies is a disease of the nervous system.  It is neurologically not in its right mind in the first place.  Besides, being 'rabid' in the sense of in a fit of rage is different from an animal trying to a.) make a point, or b.) hunting.

[IAmJacksOpinion]

Well that is just not true. The beasts can count. That is why a lion rapes a jackhal alone but runs the hell away if it sees a pack of them.
(Well, don't count this as a scientific verification, it is all watching discovery channel sometimes.)

Bah. Good point.  Still, I think there's quite a few critters that would come up to the gates not realising their impending doom. Especially ones that track your character a long way to get here.

Just to clarify, rabies is a disease of the nervous system. Razz It is neurologically not in its right mind in the first place. Besides, being 'rabid' in the sense of in a fit of rage is different from an animal trying to a.) make a point, or b.) hunting.

Well... I didn't mean the rabies thing literally.. I suppose "Wild dog" would've been better.

I guess through that big whole post the points I wanted to make were.
a) A dumber animal wouldn't notice the danger
b) They don't know what your sword is for (unless they've survived a hunting party before or something)
c) Few animals would know better, so some tracking you to the gate isn't such a big issue, in Jack's opinion

[Bebop]

Creatures in the wild, even wild kittens and that sort of thing have a hard time to be tamed and run off at the sight of one human.  Most animals are skiddish from danger only lashing out when approached.  While some kind of wild cat might chase a human if they see one go into suberbia or around a group odds are they are not going to pursue it.  Animals aren't mindless.  And animals on this game are smart some even have psychic powers.  I definitely see the point this person is trying to make.

[adrien]

they want an easy escape or meal with little chance for injury. naturally if you hit a raptor on the head with a mace they will feel the pain and run most preditors retreat when there injured rethink there attack and make a move away or towards the possible victim

[Cenghiz]

If everything were realistic, the hunters would be f**ked.. Really..

That raptor fighting to death against my semi-experienced warrior would retreat when it's down to a certain level of health instead. It would run away like a jozhal. It would be way too hard to hunt intelligent beasts like raptors.
So sometimes they act stupid to our advantage. They don't know when to retreat so we can kill them with ease. But sometimes they act stupid to our disadvantage. They hunt us to death.
Both of these should be corrected or both should be left alone.

[HardCarbon]

The argument hat an animal won't run away after seeing 5 guards. well

Apparently armies of people don't go walking through the wilderness every day. And clearly the animal is not yet evolved to consider 5 scary fuckers with weapons is a threat. I wouldent be supprised if when raptors saw the gates in the distance it wouldent charge at it hungry for flesh.

 My Take...

 a) Creatures who are 'prey animals'  ie critters low on the food chain..  tend to be skittish..  deer, Turkey, etc...  and the like

 b)  creatures who are 'prey animals' are a a threat to their hunters (Elk. Moose, Water Buffilo)...   Note the Africian Water buffilo is considered the most dangerous mammal to hunt on this planet...   also  Rinos  Elephants and the like..

c) Lazy Preditors..  Lions,  snakes.. etc...

d) Agressive hunters..  Tigers,  Cheetahs,  Most Raptors.

e) Abusive hunters.. (ie wasteful)   Humans,  Wolverenes (and that family including Polar bears, Mink, weasels, and the like),   and politicians.

f)  Evil hunters...   Templa.....[this post has be terminated by his faithful].