On getting rid of Northern PC nobility

[Revelations]

Ah, if the nobility of Tuluk were to be -taken out-, then what happens to the noble quarters?

[Xygax]

Ah, if the nobility of Tuluk were to be -taken out-, then what happens to the noble quarters?

The Dragon would descend, landing directly atop the noble's quarter and absolutely obliterating it, leaving nothing but a (another) giant crater.

Or, you know, we'd just leave it there.  There are lots of places on the mud that are unused and inaccessible to players, but that doesn't mean they won't EVER be useful again or that things can't still happen there for players to become involved in, even if they aren't high-traffic areas.

-- X

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

I know you didn't say this, X, and I'm implying in no way that you are even considering it, but...

...has it been a thought, in any manner whatsoever? Are you interested in possible changes to the societies, to emphasize differences more?

[Xygax]

I know you didn't say this, X, and I'm implying in no way that you are even considering it, but...

...has it been a thought, in any manner whatsoever? Are you interested in possible changes to the societies, to emphasize differences more?

Yes, it has been and is always an ongoing consideration that we want to differentiate the two societies significantly (and in many ways they are already significantly different; we'd just like those differences to be more visible to players -- and more playable and fun, as well).

-- X

[Armaddict]

Gad, I keep getting this thread and the other confused.  One of them talked about re-opening Fale, if we close the northern houses.

My opinion on it is don't do it unless you find people who -will- play it well.  When Fale was open...Fale nobles were seriously more like a joke than a noble.  They all wore ridiculous costumes or clothing, acted like morons, made stupid jokes (some of which blatantly mirrored sayings from real life), and basically acted the complete opposite of what a Fale should be.  (Once again, in my opinion.)

Fales are cultured, like art, like parties, etc...this doesn't mean they're fishing for laughter from the commoners and nobles, or that they're willing to make fools of themselves to entertain others.  If anything...I think Fales should be the ones making -other people- entertain constructively, rather than actually being the entertainers.

And having a 'Whatsit', while cute, seemed completely out of place in Allanak.  It's not -my- vision of Fale, it seemed terribly out of place and more there for OOC enjoyment than to add to the game.  If that was fixed, I'd say it would be awesome.

Anyway, this ended up derailing a little, but yeah...I agree, making a new social structure for Tuluk would be neato.

[Vox]

Regarding Tenneshi mirroring House Tor... Yeah I seem to recall back when the House first emerged there was some talk of them contributing significantly to the defense of Tuluk... But after reading the break down of Nobility on the General Information page... I stand corrected.

But after perusing the description of the duties of these 'Noble' Houses:
1) Tenneshi employs artisans and craftsmen, and controls water.
2) Winrothol provides trained warrior-slaves to the Legion

So Winrothol is a combination of Borsail and Tor... and Tenneshi, well they seem like the Custodians of the city. Just like Jal... who even created the sewer system beneath Allanak.

In short... Winrothol=Borsail/Tor
Tenneshi=Jal

Laeris put alot of work into the whole subject and for that he gets my respect, but I don't think the turkey is done... It needs to bake a bit more and needs to be basted lovingly.(don't we all  )

I don't think anyone is suggesting 'scrap it all', we're just suggesting a redistribution of responsibility for the purpose of a better RP experience all around.

[EDIT: LOL, there's so many threads of this subject open I replied in the wrong one, gonna move this to the other one.]

To contribute something productive to THIS thread, I hope the Dragon comes and rests the 'other' cheek on the Tuluki Nobility... Yay Crater!