CHASE SCENES

Started by sjanimal, October 09, 2004, 07:33:56 PM

CHASE SCENES

Two men stand arguing inside of a dilapidated Brooklyn public housing "Projects."  They make a decision to rob a man.  They are uneducated, unwashed, illiterate and strung out on drugs.  They decide to rob the next man who walks through the hallway.
As luck would have it, the next man who happens to walk through the hallway is man by the name of Priest.  Early thirties.  Half black.  He's wearing a stylish white trench coat.  He's an off-duty heroin dealer, on his way home from a big sale.  He's got nothing particular on his mind, and he doesn't suspect a thing.    
BAM! Priest is caught in the face with a vicious right hook, sending him sprawling.  The other vagrant lays into him with a few jabs, while the first vagrant lifts Priest's money-roll out of his trench coat.  Desperately, Priest lashes out at the two men, fighting his way to his feet.  The chump with the money takes off, running down a set of stairs.
Priest knocks the other bum down, tearing down the stairs after the chump with the money.  He had half of a grand in tens and twenties rolled up in that little pile, and he's not about to loose it to some base-head.  
The base-head looks up the stairs, and sees Priest coming after him.  He quickens his pace down another few flights of steps, careful not to slip on any of the piles of refuse near his feet.  Priest bounds after him, taking the steps two at a time.
The vagrant tears out the door into a vacant lot.  Priest follows not far behind, weary already from taking a beating but not willing to give up.
The vagrant runs through an alley, hoping to loose his pursuit.  Priest manages to gain on him.  He's not in great shape, but he's relying on shear adrenaline and willpower to keep up.
The vagrant jumps into the air, catching onto a dangling ladder from an old fire escape.  He surprises Priest by having the upper body strength to pull himself up.  In order to catch the man, Priest will have to do the same.  Can he make it?  Miraculously, he does.  Priest chases the base-head up the fire escape into a tenement hovel, where a poor family is huddled.  In front of the woman and her children, he beats the bum to a tar.

Chase Scenes

Okay cats.  The scene is Allanak.  Tensions are running high between the lawmen and the criminal elements.  I've seen a lot of well emoted fight scenes.  I've seen a lot of well emoted interrogation scenes.  And yet, somehow when it comes time to do a chase scene, most of you cats just rely on code.  This game is getting to a really exciting point, and I think we could take it to the next level if we emoted out chase scenes a little better.
And remember, if you're chasing someone and they don't emote...next time you catch them you can just PK 'em.  It's all good.

Oh yeah, and I borrowed that scene from the movie Superfly.  Great film.
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I'd say it first depends on the one who is fleeing to stop long enough to emote something, and then it depends on the one chasing to not do anything code-wise that would interupt the emote being typed by the one being chased...

Looking at the facts, that's alot of mutual trust the two of them need to actually get the roleplaying started, and that's probably the reason chase scenes aren't that frequent. Of course, after that first mutual connection between the two (or more), it's probably going to be one of the better roleplay scenes many people will experience.

On a side note, I don't believe I've heard mentioned or seen a chase&combat emoted before.  :roll: . I think for the sole element of roleplaying, that could be potentially a great experience, though you as a player would have to have some bit of creativity to keep the RP going. (What I mean by a chase&combat is you start a fight codewise, RP it out alittle, one person flees, the other chases, and then the two stop to RP fighting or whatnot. Or could could just roleplay the scene solely with emotes... :wink: )

That's all a great idea but you have to look at it on the other side of the law. Ok yes emoting during things like interrogation and fighting is great, but if you've ever played a criminal you would know that all you can do is rely on code to run away cause if you stop to emote and talk you will get caught or killed. The law code is pretty rough on criminals so you have to pretty much type for your life when it comes to running away. And if your an established criminal your probably perma crimed and you always have to run for your life.
Who would you kill for a klondike bar?

Valuabe points both of you.  But I've rp'd chase scenes with a couple peeps to great result.  I'm willing to trust people a little.  And if somebody breaks that trust, I just ignore them.  They get the point.
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You can emote if you spam walk, do the ends justify the means?  :twisted:  

    >run
    >e
    >e
    >e
    > emote blah blah blah

If you are a quick typist, the delay on 3 movement commands should be enough to get out at least a short emote.  If you are a slow typist or want a more complex emote you might need 5 or 6 movements per emote.

That really only helps the runners, not the persuers.  It is hard for the guy behind to do interactive emotes, because by the time his emote is displayed the runner is probably not in the room.  He can't really spam-walk to use delay-time either, unless he is certain that he knows where the runner is going.  It's a tricky wicket.


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Treat the other man's faith gently; it is all he has to believe with."     Henry S. Haskins

Yep.. I accept when someone does pursue me with no emotes. It's already real hard work if you're not in a tunnel where N-S are the only ex
ts possible.
I also accept if someone does not emote while fleeing from my brain eating defiler or hardy warrior. Damnit. I do it too if I feel like being killed in seconds. To tell the truth, I stop emoting and start spam fleeing if my Hp is less than one quarter of full health.
Because if you don't so, you usually hear the beep with the emote unfinished.
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Cenghiz,

I'm definitely with you, man.  I fully admit there are certain circumstances where the only emoting I do is.



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Think Thank goodness I got away.

But to the credit of all the raiders out there...I haven't spam run from anyone with my most recent character, and I've been happy with the results.

I can only hope that our characters will run into eachother, hijinks are sure to ensue.
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Well maybe that's because your character is a -LAWMAN-. Ofcourse he doesn't run, he does all the chasing because he's the law.
Who would you kill for a klondike bar?

Typing  Kill  XXXXXX

 is a lot easier then

Emote turns the corner then dashes down the narrow alley to the east.


 Unless its an old established Rivalry..   "I have you Now!! "   "Hah.. that is what you think !!"  I see two choices if you need to run...


   Run

   or

  say You will never....
  Welcome to Armageddon where Roleplaying is important.



 The  threat of perma death is suppose to be the spice.. not the main course....
As the great German philosopher Fred Neechy once said:
   That which does not kill us is gonna wish it had because we're about to FedEx its sorry ass back to ***** Central where it came from. Or something like that."

I think folks should get a few years experence before telling others how to play the game.  Just my two coins.

This is a discussion forum, its supposed to have the opinions of whoever wants to write. We definately can learn from more experianced players, but new players always bring fresh perspectives. I hope you didn't mean that, it just smacks of elitism.

QuoteI hope you didn't mean that, it just smacks of elitism.

I don't think so. It's akin to someone getting hired to a new job and telling everyone who's been there for years how to do it, rather rude IMO.
Quote from: Fnord on November 27, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
May the fap be with you, always. ;D

An opion of how you should do things is one thing... to go about tell others how and how not to play is anouther... In my opion ofcorse. :roll:

Quote from: "inkhore"An opion of how you should do things is one thing... to go about tell others how and how not to play is anouther... In my opion ofcorse. :roll:

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It's all in how you phrase things, people!
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You dumbshits. It's TEXT. Ever think that he didn't MEAN to come across like an asshole?
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Quote from: "Agent_137"You dumbshits. It's TEXT. Ever think that he didn't MEAN to come across like an asshole?

Are you sure you aren't referring to yourself here, Agent?

No one is purposely trying to be rude on this forum. (I think). Though, I don't think it would hurt you to kill with kindness, friend. People will most likely respect you more.  :)
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Quote from: "Agent_137"You dumbshits. It's TEXT. Ever think that he didn't MEAN to come across like an asshole?

Are you sure you aren't referring to yourself here, Agent?

No one is purposely trying to be rude on this forum. (I think). Though, I don't think it would hurt you to kill with kindness, friend. People will most likely respect you more.  :)

Hah. I'll admit, sometimes I mean to be an ass, sometimes it's an accident. But then I was just illustrating my point. It's like i said in another thread . . everyone needs to grow a thicker skin, and everyone needs to be more polite. It's called mutual responsibility. Makes the world go 'round.

QuoteYou dumbshits. It's TEXT. Ever think that he didn't MEAN to come across like an asshole?

QuoteBut then I was just illustrating my point. It's like i said in another thread . . everyone needs to grow a thicker skin, and everyone needs to be more polite. It's called mutual responsibility. Makes the world go 'round.

That's no excuse. I think you'd do alot better to follow your own advice.

Any name calling is rude and discourteous any way you slice it. And according to the imms we are to try to treat others with courtesy on the board, something which time and time again you prove that you cannot do.
Quote from: Fnord on November 27, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
May the fap be with you, always. ;D

Christ, man, i even explicitly stated I was using it to illustrate my point. Let me go over this again:


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You dumbshits. It's TEXT. Ever think that he didn't MEAN to come across like an asshole?
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Ok, see how it's saying the same thing, but in three different ways? It's saying that how you phrase a certain opinion or fact can range from being polite, or to inciting anger. But it's the same opinion or fact.

I can't believe you took that seriously. I don't know how I can be more obivous that it was meant to illustrate a point, and not offend anyone.

(and would people QUIT taking me out of context?!)

QuoteThat's no excuse.
Quote from: Fnord on November 27, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
May the fap be with you, always. ;D

Calm down people. I think we all just need to grow thicker skin!  :wink:

On topic:

It is extremely hard to roleplay out a "chase scene". This is due in no small part that both parties wish to achieve their objective. The one fastest usually succeeds.

Therefore, roleplay usually takes a back seat to spam. This is not good.

I recount a scene in which someone cast in front of another person in the wilds. Even though they made no obvious gesture of malice:

1) The person observing this event immediately ran with no emote.

2) The caster was hitched to the fleeing pc. (They were travelling somewhere it seemed)

3) After realizing the caster was hitched to him, the pc unhitched, then proceeded to spam flee again.

This goes both ways though. Until all players show restraint in their trigger-fingers, we likely won't see fleshed out "chase scenes".
 was, am, and always will be. That which dwells under the cast shadows; my Heart of Darkness.

OMG.  I don't know how it is that you can explicitly state something on this GDB, and then still have people miss the point.  I'm laughing my ass off.  This is great.  Flaming and trolling are completely unneccessary.  People still manage to say the stupidest stuff.  

Reading some of the less poignant posts is like listening to the ramblings of some drunk homeless person.

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Quote from: "sjanimal"Reading some of the less poignant posts is like listening to the ramblings of some drunk homeless person.

You don't know what poignant means, do you?

"You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means."
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The skinny, zit-marked kid runs west.

The skinny, zit-marked kid stops leading you.

The skinny, zit-marked kid runs west.

Looks like plenty enough roleplay to me. Congratulations, chump, you scared him shitless. And he's running. That's.. really about it.

If he wants to wet himself instead, and cry for mercy, that's great. But it's not bad rp, or a lack of rp, to just run, unless you blatantly ignore certain physical limitations that have been introduced. Just running can be a real heart-pounding experience in itself, if the reason for running is good enough.
Dig?