Idea to spur magick hatred

[Dan]

I don't exactly understand what that meant Sir Diealot.

[Sir Diealot]

If it was cast faster.. People would say it overpowered magickers..

I was making a snide comment about how it would be ok to power-up magickers..  

Because I agree with you, it -should- be cast faster..Magickers are vastly underpowered, even experienced ones, as it is..

[Carnage]

I don't exactly understand what that meant Sir Diealot.

I think he was being facetious and pointing out how easily magickers are killed, despite how feared and powerful they are supposed to be.

[Dan]

Got it now, thanks. Sarcasm is lost on me when it comes to reading it.

Anyway, they might not be overpowered. They will still have the same delay, only after the spell is cast and not before. Like recovery from exertion? I would think Sorcerors could keep the delay before though, since their magick is learned and not necessarily inborn. Creating a need to prepare their magick rather than an outright release of their elemental powers which might call for a moment to steady yourself to do it again. Just a few thoughts.

[Vettrock]

Something just came to me, why not switch the delay on spells? Not as cool as the other suggestions but I think if you casted right after typing in your spell it would go a long way towards making magickers more feared. Thoughts?

Delay:
  After, corresponds directly with proficiency in casting the spell.

and...

Note that the 'cast' command incurs a delay for casting time. This delay decreases in direct proportion to your skill in the spell.

So if you are more skilled at a spell the casting delay will be shorter.

[wizturbo]

I think the delay should remain as is.  However the ability to cast a spell silently (as in no room echos screaming hey I'm a magicker) is something i'm strongly in support of.  Make it be more taxing to cast, longer to cast, outright more difficult...whatever...but magickers shouldn't be so easily found.  Other magickers and templars should have at some point the ability to spot a 'silent spell' to keep things balanced, and not ALL spells should be able to be cast silently.

Thats just my opinion on this.

[X-D]

I think only "curse" style spells and maybe "blessing" style spells should have a silent cast.

That would be truly sweet.

scast 'curse of moldy purple spots' assumed elf thief

The tall figure in a black cloak suddenly bends over and retches.

Mold like purple spots start forming on all of the tall figure in a black cloak's exposed flesh.

think That will teach him.

[cyberpatrol_735]

I was running through some old posts.. and I found this, I like it, and I'd like to see this implemented. I'm all for it, as are many of the players who posted on it. So ...

*bump*

And really, considerably thinking, it isn't hard to code, you add a new keyword and a new effect, instead of say.. full_cast and no_cast, you would have a function called silent_cast and it would do a check for the silent_cast flag to see if it would work, thus going with the rest of the magick code.

Easy to do, amazing results, lets do it.

[SewerRat_inTheOpen]

AC made a good post back there, about how underpowered magickers are. The first magicker pc death/fight I seen, took place and finished say in less than 5s, there could be a bit of lag, but it went, slash hard on his neck *7 times. And the poor guy is on the ground. He was pickin up a lot of things though. I was thinking the guy with me was like..brutal and very powerful. Then a few days later, I found his corpse as well.  :shock:

But this code might just be the one that brings back more fear in a magicker, not that I'm not afraid of them, I met my first one who blew my first pc a lot of leagues away from anyplace.

Unless you want the magickers to keep killing people blatantly out in the wilds, to get that fear back.

[Dracul]

Now Im currently playing a magicker character so I could be slightly biased (but I generally dont play them, and soon enough this one will die of course)

But I really like the idea...with the added notations people have mentioned. In such...I wont add too much.

Just Support.

[cyberpatrol_735]

If I might say.. staff.. The players have spoken

[Xamminy]

...so?

They'll do it when and if they decide it is doable, as well as how.

The staff knows the players have spoken.

[moab]

Way to make the players feel like they are contributing, Xamminy.

I would point out that a lot of good ideas come from the player base and soliciting immortal opinion after player discussion isn't a bad thing.

[Xamminy]

Oh, I'm not trying to make someone feel bad...but at the same time, cyberpatrol sounded as if there was something unsaid about it along the lines of, "...so implement it."  Having been on the staff side of things, I can say that that attitude does rankle.

Also, there are so many things that could or rather should be done before adding new things to the game (which this would count as).  Not to say I don't think this would be a great addition, as I do think it would be a wonderful thing.  I just don't know if we should do it now, and I don't think someone should be poking at the staff, effectively saying, "We want this, so make it happen," or something that suggests that sort of message.

[moab]

X>
You know, after I thought about the series of posts a bit longer, I figured that Cyber's could have been worded a bit differently.  I see your point.

[Xamminy]

It's all good, moab.  No hard feelings here.

[Rhyden]

Man, flamming an imm on the GDB? Somebody's gonna be slayed for this.  :shock:

Back to topic: I think this idea would be sweet, but I don't think it would be able to happen in a city without any justice done. The guard of both cities is so ruthless and determined, that the soldiers would probably just take everybody in to jail and prick and prod them to find the magicker.

[Dracul]

Well I got some hard feelins here.

What about THOSE?


huh...

err...

[Angela Christine]

Back to topic: I think this idea would be sweet, but I don't think it would be able to happen in a city without any justice done. The guard of both cities is so ruthless and determined, that the soldiers would probably just take everybody in to jail and prick and prod them to find the magicker.

I believe they would have the same problems as psoinicists or sorcerers.  The resident sorcerer-king and his lackeys scan the airwaves looking for a certain kind of magickal ripple where no ripple should be.  Perhaps even certain kinds of thoughts.  Like and FBI watch list for words that may indicate a message by enemies of the state, except psychic.


AC

[cyberpatrol_735]

Whoops.. yeah that was bad wording.. I just meant that overall, it looks like the players support it if the imms are willing to implement it for us

[DrunkenSalarr]

While I love this idea, I have one question:

Who's to say it isn't already implemented?  This could already be possible, but it's something only a select few, or perhaps no one (living that is), knows right now.  It could be scrawlled in some ancient book on how to do it.  Or maybe a certain item or items allows you to do it.

Basically, this may already be possible, and no one has brought it up because of IC sensitivity.

I'm not saying it is possible, and I'm not saying it's not.  What I am saying though, is treat this like you treat the rest of the in game world when it comes to code limitations, treat it like it is possible.  If you think you should be able to do something, and you can't, maybe you might be able to get some by wishing on a star.

"why is it that whenever I cast an 'un' spell everyone knows, I want to do it silently! *whine*"  It may be that there are other reaches and you don't know about them, and neither does anyone you know (or at least no one has told you).  

It's kind of like "why is it that whenever I shoot a gun, everyone around me hears it, I want to do it silently! *whine*"  Just because you've never heard of, nor seen a silencer, doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Anonymous]

Are you saying that silencers exist?!

This would make my assassination jobs much easier.

Sa'alam,

Dirr