Nuts and bolts

[Teleri]

Now I know there are nails in Armageddon, as some of the buildings in the game could not be reasonably constructed without them, and they've been in a few descriptions of items I've seen so far.  However, I'm curious as to how far such technology has advanced in the main centers of civilization on Zalanthas.

Is it reasonable to assume that people in Tuluk, Allanak, and any other advanced civilization in Armageddon have screws in addition to nails?  What about bolts and the little discs with the hole drilled through the middle?  Do they even have drills to do that with?  I guess they also have glue, as one could make that from plants or animal products.  But would glue be commonplace, or even that strong given the level of refining and work put into producing the adhesive?  If any of these things were able to be produced on such a scale as to have them be commonplace...which merchant house would they be handled by?  I would assume there is quite a demand for these little things to bond other, bigger things together, and one could make some decent coin from selling a lot of them.

I just wanted to get this cleared up so I don't emote twisting idly at a bone screw or something, only to find that the bottom of my table is held together with the legs by only a vine.

[Dan]

Well, with such crafting things. It may sound a little unrealistic to do this, but its one of those playability things, just be vague with the first time your craft something. Emote putting it together, but in a way that it doesn't matter whats holding it together. Then, when you finally make one, look it over and rp accordingly in the future with how it is made.

[Teleri]

Well, that's not exactly the answer I was looking for, but thanks for the advice, which I'll keep in mind if and when I craft something I never have before.  However, I was asking about these screws and whatnot just in general, not specifically in crafting or anything like that.  I don't care very much about if the thing I'm crafting has a screw in it or not, but I do care to know if there is screw/drill/bolt etc. technology present on Zalanthas.

[Dan]

There are wooden/bone nails, augers and such to drill holes. So I would assume they have this technology. Im not so certain about the bolts and washers though.

[spawnloser]

Also, realize that some things don't need screws and nails...most furniture could use wooden pegs, or those weird, angled teeth like fastenings like are used in drawers (don't know to to describe it, but if you've ever had a dresser drawer fall apart, you know what I mean).

[JollyGreenGiant]

I'm pretty sure they're called joints.

[X-D]

The wierd teeth thing is called a dovetail, Also, you would probly be amazed at the strength and durability of ancient adhesives here on earth, then consider that zalanthas has been without metals in any real quantity for a very long time, people would have started figuring out ways to do things without it.

Tongue and groove joints, dovetail joints, adhesives, pegs, lashings, pressure joints and more allow you to make rather complicated machines. Bolts have been made in the past with wood and augers also.

You could easily make a windmill complete with all the machinery to grind grain, saw wood, move water and any number of other things with just wood, stone and leather, again, something that has been done in earths past and even when metal was available.

Something BTW, with zalanthian winds, I'm suprised there are not more of.

[Bushranger]

As far as adhesives go, you can make very strong glues from natural materials however they take a long time to dry. Also, as has been pointed out previously, pegs and various fashions of joints would be mainly used in construction of wooden structures and furniture. You can, in fact, make furniture much stronger than modern furniture without using nails or bolts or anything else made out of metal these days it just takes a long time to finish crafting it.

Thus, whenever I see posts like "We are sorry your custom order bow took nearly a year to get to you but staff member so-and-so has been on vacation" I always think to myself, A good bow that has been laminated from various materials and bent into shape using presses and weight would take almost a year to finish. Same for just about any other construction being custom made with any strngth to it save fabric/leatherwork.