Coercion, manipulation, and sex.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

Gotta be honest - Shadowing somebody into an apartment shouldn't be possible. And MAYBE, if it absolutely must remain, then in the helpfile for shadowing people, you are just told that you are automatically consenting by shadowing someone. I dunno. I understand and agree that if somebody hidden ooc consents yes or no, you SHOULDN'T respond differently, but ... boy, that's a hard sell sometimes.

[Malken]

I didn't know that you didn't have to consent if you're not visible... Well, that answers it!

[Lotion]

Looks like the helpfile doesn't have the word visible in it anymore, so I might not have been right.

Shadowing someone into an apartment can be fine under certain situations, but those are few and far between.

[Malken]

code > common sense > doorway

[valeria]

I think when this came up in the past, the answer was that it's fine to either OOC that you consent (or don't) consent, or to just consent by silence.  It's probably in the old thread about the change to the rape helpful.

If it was me and I really didn't want to be there or let folks know I was there, I'd just wish up and ask to be let out.

[Katima]

If you end up in a situation where you're in an apartment where two or more PCs are about to 'get busy' and you are truly worried that they're going to go meta on you as soon as you respond, OR, if you don't want to disrupt their pending situation by responding, I would consider it entirely reasonable to wish up and explain the situation to staff. Whether or not someone is available who can assist is another issue, but playtimes seem to be pretty reliably covered across the board currently.