What do the accents sound like?

Started by In Dreams, April 27, 2015, 05:34:57 AM

I'm talking about mostly northern and southern, since I'd expect tribal accents are much more varied.

Do elves have their own accent? I've only seen about four accents I believe, but my play areas have been kind of limited to date.

From what I know, there are five accents.

Staccato accent is probably staccato sounding.

QuoteA female voice says, in sirihish:
     "] yer a wizard, oashi"

I think elves and dwarves should get their own accents, but alas, only delves have something of their own.

Additionally, it'd be great if there was a posh-accented sirihish for nobles and such.
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I was actually thinking the same thing, Patuk!

It would be fun if we could tell a noble's accent from a farmer's or a beggar's. They likely speak much, much differently!

I always took northern to be more softer-spoken, and southern to be more gruff, based on the locales.

Tribal I took to have a more gypsy-sounding tone.

Staccato is a tone that generally uses the sound and pitch of a word to make it sound different. Think Mandarin or something like that if you want to know how that sounds.

Rinthi uhhh.... rinthi is rinthi.

April 27, 2015, 10:44:10 AM #6 Last Edit: April 27, 2015, 10:57:33 AM by Desertman
Edited to Add: The below is my opinion. I am not on staff. I don't expect you to stop doing your thing because I don't like it.

I just wish tribal-accented people would learn the difference between a language barrier and an accent.

There is a difference between an accent and a language barrier.

You know Sirihish. You speak it just fine. Look at your skills list. Trust me on this. You have no reason to make up words that don't exist or miss words entirely when you are speaking as if you don't know Sirihish.

You don't have a language barrier. You have an accent. You speak the language just fine. You just sound different when using the exact same words everyone else is using in the same way.

"I'm going to the Gaj to get a mug of ale at the bar. You want to come?"

This does not become:

"I am going to drinking place for drinking. You are come and have city water from cup at long table with stools?"

Dear Tek....you don't have a language barrier. You know what all of the words mean and how to use them. They just sound differently when you use them.

It is the exact same thing as if you went from New York to Texas. The words would be the same. They would just sound differently. That's how accents work.

Noun 1. language barrier - barrier to communication resulting from speaking different languages

Noun 1. accent - prominence of a syllable in terms of differential loudness, or of pitch, or length, or of a combination of these.


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Uh.  Who are you to decide how well other characters speak sirihish?  I'd rather people roleplay out a language deficiency than ask for staff to lower the skill value.

Quote from: Marauder Moe on April 27, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
Uh.  Who are you to decide how well other characters speak sirihish?  I'd rather people roleplay out a language deficiency than ask for staff to lower the skill value.

I don't get to decide. I can sure tell people it irritates me.

It irritates me. The above is why it irritates me.
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Quote from: deathkamon on November 14, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
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Sirihish may not be a first language for tribals.

Accent-wise, we haaaaave...
Northern
Southern
Rinthi
Tribal
Desert
Staccato (not actually sure where this is from)

And maybe whatever obscure accents mantis and gith use.
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I added a disclaimer to limit any confusion.
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So you are irritated that people don't know the difference.

What if I told you they do know...

...but willfully choose to roleplay out a language barrier in addition to their accent?

I would say that's a good point. I would also say to the people who don't know the difference, now you know.
Quote from: James de Monet on April 09, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
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Quote from: Desertman on April 27, 2015, 10:44:10 AM
Edited to Add: The below is my opinion. I am not on staff. I don't expect you to stop doing your thing because I don't like it.

I just wish tribal-accented people would learn the difference between a language barrier and an accent.

There is a difference between an accent and a language barrier.

You know Sirihish. You speak it just fine. Look at your skills list. Trust me on this. You have no reason to make up words that don't exist or miss words entirely when you are speaking as if you don't know Sirihish.

You don't have a language barrier. You have an accent. You speak the language just fine. You just sound different when using the exact same words everyone else is using in the same way.

"I'm going to the Gaj to get a mug of ale at the bar. You want to come?"

This does not become:

"I am going to drinking place for drinking. You are come and have city water from cup at long table with stools?"

Dear Tek....you don't have a language barrier. You know what all of the words mean and how to use them. They just sound differently when you use them.

It is the exact same thing as if you went from New York to Texas. The words would be the same. They would just sound differently. That's how accents work.

Noun 1. language barrier - barrier to communication resulting from speaking different languages

Noun 1. accent - prominence of a syllable in terms of differential loudness, or of pitch, or length, or of a combination of these.


Quote from: Desertman on November 11, 2012, 12:23:05 PM



Wow, I just have to say you are completely wrong here. If you ever played a tribal human that was clanned tribal (Arabeti or Seik) You would know how wrong you are. First of all there is a list of words that means things to them and this is approved by Staff. Secondly, since everyone in the camps speaks Bendune I would expect that a character that has lived in the camps all their life with very little interaction outside would have some sort of confusion when using Sirihish.

I would expect the same to be true of any unclanned tribal that has a bio that says they've always lived in the tribe and had very little interaction with outsiders.

What you are saying is equivalent to the following scenario:

Joe was born and grows up in Poland. He speaks Polish, but knows English. Just because Joe knows English, he'll understand EVERYTHING including slang when he comes to America.

I found your post rather closed-minded and unaccepting of how things really are.

Having said this, Tribals, please feel free to play your characters as you have and how you want to. If you are doing something wrong someone can submit a complaint and Staff can determine if you are. Please don't let one person's views shape how you play your character.
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Quote from: Desertman on April 27, 2015, 10:44:10 AM
Edited to Add: The below is my opinion. I am not on staff. I don't expect you to stop doing your thing because I don't like it.

If you are in a staff approved tribal clan with staff approved docs for staff approved words...go wild.

I'm still of the opinion accents aren't language barriers. If they ALSO have language barrier intentionally and know the difference, I'm not talking to them.
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That is so messed up, but have fun with how you choose to play. Good luck.
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Quote from: slvrmoontiger on April 27, 2015, 11:17:47 AM
That is so messed up, but have fun with how you choose to play. Good luck.

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Quote from: James de Monet on April 09, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
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Quote from: deathkamon on November 14, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
The young daughter has been filled.

Language barriers are hard to pull off correctly, and should also slowly improve over time. But kudos to those who can do it non-annoyingly.

What if you are role playing the dude role playing a dude who has a language barrier.

I personally am with Desertman, but not to that extreme. I have a hard time believing a "world travelling trader" has a hard time using proper Common tongue. Some people are better than "I is derpina, we is to be sexing?" but I don't mind it. I mind when that PC is around for 3 RL months, still sounds the same... wugh.


On topic though, I always though of Southern Accent to be more... cockney-ish. By that, I mean leaving out half a syllable here, maybe sort of speaking in a grumbling style. The north always seemed to be... like their Highborn are respected and revered, so commoners would PROBABLY adopt a speech pattern and tone similar to the foppy posh nobles, and as such are more flowing from word to word, not quite sing-song but a similar manner.
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One day I decided warrens accent was cajun.

Quote from: HavokBlue on April 27, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
Sirihish may not be a first language for tribals.

Accent-wise, we haaaaave...
Northern
Southern
Rinthi
Tribal
Desert
Staccato (not actually sure where this is from)

And maybe whatever obscure accents mantis and gith use.

There's a Desert one?!  Never knew that.
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I think the staccato accent used to be called "desert."

Northern = England,
Warrens = Cajun,
Southern = Boston,
Rinthi = Cockney,
Storm = Aussie,
Tribal = India

In my mind at the moment.