Gith - The Enemy Returns (to open or no?)

Started by Dakota, April 13, 2015, 09:10:04 PM

Should Gith be seriously considered to be opened for players?

Wait three months and see.
22 (21.4%)
Yes!
12 (11.7%)
Yes but Karma Restricted an App only.
30 (29.1%)
No because theirs no problem post Tuluk closing
11 (10.7%)
No because it's the wrong solution.
28 (27.2%)

Total Members Voted: 103

Voting closed: May 13, 2015, 09:10:04 PM

Quote from: MeTekillot on April 23, 2015, 04:08:15 AM
Quote from: Desertman on April 22, 2015, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: Talia on April 22, 2015, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: Bushranger on April 22, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Rename Halfling as Ghaati. All the code is there. Midget cat people are so cute!!

To quote Guy Fleegman, "Have you guys even SEEN the show?!"

Giving a fanged cheshire smile the lithe, perky-eared ghatti youth purrs and snuggles up in Talia's lap, curling into a ball before drifting off to sleep.

From time to time the lithe, perky-eared ghatti youth's ears flick and she squirms about in Talia's lap, obviously caught up in a dream.



Tell me you don't want that as your sidekick. You damn right you do.

Ghaati were (are?) more like occasionally bipedal tigers with humanoid features instead of like, humanoid cats. Nothing close to cat people afaik.

Was there no safety? No learning by heart of the ways of the world? No guide, no shelter, but all was miracle and leaping from the pinnacle of a tower into the air?

Virginia Woolf, To the Lighthouse

Good luck trying to convince any of us that cat people are not cat people!
"When I was a fighting man, the kettle-drums they beat;
The people scattered gold-dust before my horse's feet;
But now I am a great king, the people hound my track
With poison in my wine-cup, and daggers at my back."

Quote from: MeTekillot on April 23, 2015, 04:08:15 AM
Quote from: Desertman on April 22, 2015, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: Talia on April 22, 2015, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: Bushranger on April 22, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Rename Halfling as Ghaati. All the code is there. Midget cat people are so cute!!

To quote Guy Fleegman, "Have you guys even SEEN the show?!"

Giving a fanged cheshire smile the lithe, perky-eared ghatti youth purrs and snuggles up in Talia's lap, curling into a ball before drifting off to sleep.

From time to time the lithe, perky-eared ghatti youth's ears flick and she squirms about in Talia's lap, obviously caught up in a dream.



Tell me you don't want that as your sidekick. You damn right you do.

Ghaati were (are?) more like occasionally bipedal tigers with humanoid features instead of like, humanoid cats. Nothing close to cat people afaik.

Sir, while I agree with you, what is being discussed is the possibility of a half halfing half ghatti hybrid cute mini-kitten-person sidekick race.

I think it would take less than two weeks before this was created:


Quote from: James de Monet on April 09, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
My phone now autocorrects "damn" to Dman.
Quote from: deathkamon on November 14, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
The young daughter has been filled.

Srsly though, I need halflings back and more socialized for better roleplay experiences.

Quote from: James de Monet on April 09, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
My phone now autocorrects "damn" to Dman.
Quote from: deathkamon on November 14, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
The young daughter has been filled.

A tribe of Halflings, fleeing from some trouble outside the Known, manage to find Red Storm village on their silt skimmers. More civilized than their northern cousins they are allowed to settle into the village, some of them joining the Sand Lord's ranks of soldiers others integrating into the windmill crews or the markets. Those who choose to play a new Halfling have decided to adventure in this new land!

BAM! Would totally play one of these!
Quote from: MorgenesYa..what Bushranger said...that's the ticket.

Quote from: Bushranger on April 23, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
A tribe of Halflings, fleeing from some trouble outside the Known, manage to find Red Storm village on their silt skimmers. More civilized than their northern cousins they are allowed to settle into the village, some of them joining the Sand Lord's ranks of soldiers others integrating into the windmill crews or the markets. Those who choose to play a new Halfling have decided to adventure in this new land!

BAM! Would totally play one of these!

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Quote from: James de Monet on April 09, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
My phone now autocorrects "damn" to Dman.
Quote from: deathkamon on November 14, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
The young daughter has been filled.

Why play a gith/mantis/halfling if you're just going to make them more boring/civilized. I'm playing one of these guys so I can shit on your stupid tea-parties and eat your dumb twitching corpse - not so I can trade gems for bone swords.

I will drop boulders on your wooden boxes and burn everyone inside.

I will swarm over your palisades and eat you and your friends while exalting in the will of the hive.

I will treat you like the cattle you are and hunt you for entertainment if my tribe needs your flesh.

Go back home, two-leg, smooth-skin, beast-that-speaks. Go home and leave the world for those who know how to live in it.

Quote from: Rathustra on April 23, 2015, 04:41:21 PM
Why play a gith/mantis/halfling if you're just going to make them more boring/civilized. I'm playing one of these guys so I can shit on your stupid tea-parties and eat your dumb twitching corpse - not so I can trade gems for bone swords.

I will drop boulders on your wooden boxes and burn everyone inside.

I will swarm over your palisades and eat you and your friends while exalting in the will of the hive.

I will treat you like the cattle you are and hunt you for entertainment if my tribe needs your flesh.

Go back home, two-leg, smooth-skin, beast-that-speaks. Go home and leave the world for those who know how to live in it.

Spoken like a true Tuluki.
as IF you didn't just have them unconscious, naked, and helpless in the street 4 minutes ago

play more desert elves
All the world will be your enemy. When they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you; digger, listener, runner, Prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed.

This is why we can't have nice things/cute tiny people in our groups.
Quote from: James de Monet on April 09, 2015, 01:54:57 AM
My phone now autocorrects "damn" to Dman.
Quote from: deathkamon on November 14, 2015, 12:29:56 AM
The young daughter has been filled.

I was corpse-camped by gnomes in Everquest for three hours. I was very disappointed to learn that halflings were no longer a thing in game since that was one less thing to hate.

May 04, 2015, 10:53:35 PM #86 Last Edit: May 04, 2015, 11:12:06 PM by Clearsighted
The thing about the gith is that they were never and would never be a true isoclan.

Mantis and halflings were both tucked into obscure corners of the known world that you would need to have a death wish to go poking into. They were easily avoided, and had no real friction or conflict with anyone else.

Gith are centrally located in the red desert, and would have an immense impact on the world around them. It would create a lot of great RP and conflict.

So some people might die to gith PCs...Who cares? Would you rather die in a fight against gith PCs, or get one-shotted in some RPT by a massively strong NPC?

The main danger would be for the gith to not get wiped out by the Sun Runners, since they're apparently an unstoppable colossus of awesomeness that none dare stand against.

So anyone that equates gith with mantis and halflings, is really out of their depth. Gith are nothing like the gith or halflings, and are in many many ways as approachable and RPable as any delf tribe, and have a very real geopolitical contribution to make that would affect 95% of the playerbase.

I think it'd be great. But then I really don't subscribe to the philosophy of sitting around mudsexing until you die to an RPT NPC. I'd rather take my chances against other players who had a real reason to fight or defend themselves, with actual stakes. Fighting for survival and for the territorial right of your species.

I've never seen PC gith but they seem like they'd just be code spam and pvp based which doesn't sound totally rad to me.

Quote from: In Dreams on May 04, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
I've never seen PC gith but they seem like they'd just be code spam and pvp based which doesn't sound totally rad to me.

No more than delves are, or any gicker, hunter or mercenary is.

What seems to bother you most is them being pvp based. But again, I'd rather die to a PC than to an overpowered NPC.

The interaction between PC gith and non-gith PCs is strictly limited to murder, stabbing, murder, and the eating of flesh.

It's not PK to facilitate a plot, or interaction, or anything else except the killing of player characters, be they gith, or the victims of gith.

All the world will be your enemy. When they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you; digger, listener, runner, Prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed.

Since Gith have contests of merit can they literally have 'the biggest dick' contests.
Either metaphorically or physically.

That's more of a comparison, not a contest. You can't better yourself in that area (unless there are cantrips to extend penis size? future stone mage concept).

They may instead have a contest on who is better at using their dick, however.

I voted yes to karma restricted because I'd LOVE to see some real conflict in the Tablelands. Elves don't fuck with each other, humans are one tribe so they don't fuck with each other and everyone's always besties with Kurac because Kurac is awesome and got them they sweet drugs, word.

Like, gith don't give a fuck about preserving themselves at the level the elves and humans do. They're so much more chaotic and evil, which would encourage much more conflict in the forms of spear heads, not snarky remarks about inferiority and who is liked by the Blackwing more.
Quote from: Agameth
Goat porn is not prohibited in the Highlord's city.

Quote from: Rathustra on April 23, 2015, 04:41:21 PM
Why play a gith/mantis/halfling if you're just going to make them more boring/civilized. I'm playing one of these guys so I can shit on your stupid tea-parties and eat your dumb twitching corpse - not so I can trade gems for bone swords.

I will drop boulders on your wooden boxes and burn everyone inside.

I will swarm over your palisades and eat you and your friends while exalting in the will of the hive.

I will treat you like the cattle you are and hunt you for entertainment if my tribe needs your flesh.

Go back home, two-leg, smooth-skin, beast-that-speaks. Go home and leave the world for those who know how to live in it.

Only staff get to play barbarian races. Holding it selfishly for themselves.

Staff are corrupt.
Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.

May 05, 2015, 12:39:57 AM #94 Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 12:41:49 AM by Clearsighted
Quote from: HavokBlue on May 04, 2015, 11:16:34 PM
The interaction between PC gith and non-gith PCs is strictly limited to murder, stabbing, murder, and the eating of flesh.

It's not PK to facilitate a plot, or interaction, or anything else except the killing of player characters, be they gith, or the victims of gith.



Merely having a gith clan in the Red Desert would bring a whole new dimension, life and conflict to the world, and make travel between Allanak and Luirs actually somewhat risky, now and then.

I'd rather have PCs providing this tension, with just as much to risk losing, than random NPCs puppeted by staff.

And as Zoan said, the best thing about the gith is their 'not give a fuckery'. Everyone else is besties. And they'd better be, or else Kurac won't sell to them, or the SR will kill them. Gith are outside that daisy chain.

I am 100% in support of PCs who present a threat in the Red Desert, I just don't think Gith are the way to achieve it.

All the world will be your enemy. When they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you; digger, listener, runner, Prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed.

Raid more with hoomanz.
She wasn't doing a thing that I could see, except standing there leaning on the balcony railing, holding the universe together. --J.D. Salinger

May 05, 2015, 01:42:15 AM #97 Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 01:44:10 AM by Clearsighted
Quote from: Armaddict on May 05, 2015, 12:45:40 AM
Raid more with hoomanz.

A classic GDB response.

It's not really realistic to raid with humans, unless you're just a complete throwaway character. Raiding tribes/clans work, because you have a base of operations, and a group of people to RP with, and plan stuff with. A relatively safe place to store loot, and to train or sleep.

A human raider group that presents any kind of a threat, basically doesn't happen without several PCs with a reasonable amount of days on them, all together deciding to get killed. Because there are so few places for human raiders to coordinate or operate from. None, really. Red Storm comes the closest. But even then, you're easily found and on thin ice.

But you know all this.

I wish there were a human or delf tribe that did raiding.

Another good thing about gith, is that their victims can look at them all they want. It probably won't matter much.

Meh, with all the supernatural PCs floating around, your special snowflake gith wouldn't last a week. You'd be raiding in places that so many powerful characters would be waiting for you.
"When I was a fighting man, the kettle-drums they beat;
The people scattered gold-dust before my horse's feet;
But now I am a great king, the people hound my track
With poison in my wine-cup, and daggers at my back."

It would just take one Red Meso to ruin your little tribe's day. He'd stomp in, ignoring the ambient scenery, and hack the four PCs to death who are hakka'ing by the campfire.
Quote from: Agameth
Goat porn is not prohibited in the Highlord's city.