Death waits for me outside

[Gimfalisette]

I as the Player full on knew that Giants can subdue you, and then engage in combat, which used to lead to almost infant fatalities. I think this may have been changed since this time, but it was definitely the case for a while. So OOCly, I knew I was potentially walking into a death trap. But ICly, my PC was too stubborn, prideful, and also naive and stupid to think she was in any danger.

And this is why Zalanthan life expectancy is so low. It's the half-giants going around squeezing babies to death. TO DEATH. (Note: Not really a problem if they're doing it mostly to half-elves or elves.)

Just to actually contribute a little, I pretty much agree with Reiloth's point. I very frequently put my PC into situations where, yes, they could be quickly and easily killed by another PC, but my PC doesn't think that's going to happen. So it's IC to go along with whatever the scene is. In general, I have found the playerbase to be pretty trustworthy in this regard.

When my PCs have died, it's either been because reasons or to critters. I'm certain none of my PCs have died just because some other player had an OOC desire to PK.

[icewindsong]

I'm certain none of my PCs have died just because some other player had an OOC desire to PK.
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What about an IC desire to kill?  Confronted with an easy target, I imagine there's many characters that its all IC for them to grin and hack you to pieces for their own profit, training and/or reputation.  And on my side of it, not even having armoring nor a weapon let alone equipped one or learned to use it...  I think its completely IC to run from a dangerous-appearing situation, if I don't (ICly) think I can simply walk away from it safely.  I can't really say more without relating events.  All I was trying to say was I think I could improve on posing a reaction before or as I run away.  My choice of reaction was quite appropriate and IC.

[Gimfalisette]

What about an IC desire to kill?  Confronted with an easy target, I imagine there's many characters that its all IC for them to grin and hack you to pieces for their own profit, training and/or reputation.  And on my side of it, not even having armoring nor a weapon let alone equipped one or learned to use it...  I think its completely IC to run from a dangerous-appearing situation, if I don't (ICly) think I can simply walk away from it safely.  I can't really say more without relating events.  All I was trying to say was I think I could improve on posing a reaction before or as I run away.  My choice of reaction was quite appropriate and IC.

Well, I get that, and I understand your feeling. I think after a while you will come to OOCly trust the playerbase somewhat, and then you will find that your fears calm down some. I feel pretty certain that there are not that many PCs who are interested in trying to kill every "easy target" they see. Yes, it is Zalanthas, and it's a very harsh world, but newbie boots aren't worth all that much compared to the stuff most PCs spend their time doing.

[Reiloth]

Yeah...This isn't a PVP server on an MMO. There are consequences for murder, depending on where you are and who you are. While it happens every day, it is under the right circumstances.

Most PC's would know that traveling outside of the gates of any city will mean your chances for dying rise exponentially. Depending on who you are, and where you are in that city, those chances might be just as high.

There aren't many 'grief-ers' around here. Some, but not many.

[Rahnevyn]

I don't think anyone is saying that running away from something/someone scary isn't an appropriate IC action if it's what your character would do. If you happen to be facing another player, though, it makes a more interesting scene if you emote fleeing in terror first, or cry out for help, or interact in some way, rather than just "run; s; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e;" all the way back to safety.

In the case of mean beasties like mekillots and bahamets, of course, just GTFO as quick as you can. NPCs are twinks and don't emote.

[Reiloth]

such twinks

[jcortrig]

If you really want to explore the wilderness aspect of the game and not die, you might consider playing a warrior rather than one of the other guilds.  Warriors can, out of the box, at least deal with some of the nasties you'll encounter.  Other guilds, not much.  Particularly avoid going outside if you're playing say, a city elf pickpocket or assassin.  ;-)

[Fujikoma]

If you really want to explore the wilderness aspect of the game and not die, you might consider playing a warrior rather than one of the other guilds.  Warriors can, out of the box, at least deal with some of the nasties you'll encounter.  Other guilds, not much.  Particularly avoid going outside if you're playing say, a city elf pickpocket or assassin.  ;-)

Rangers can rock some wildlife too.

[icewindsong]

... rather than just "run; s; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e;" all the way back to safety.

run is a command?  Okay...  I guess I really just walked away from danger..   Good to learn this now before I have a bahamet or other big nasty on me.  

[CodeMaster]

Hi new player...

I don't think anyone is saying that running away from something/someone scary isn't an appropriate IC action if it's what your character would do. If you happen to be facing another player, though, it makes a more interesting scene if you emote fleeing in terror first, or cry out for help, or interact in some way, rather than just "run; s; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e;" all the way back to safety.

Couple random bits of advice in this same vein:

1. One way you can get away with being a not-so-fast typist (or familiar with the game) is to rely on your client or aliases.  Here's an easy one:

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alias flee flee (with a growing expression of fear and panic)

Every time you flee, even in an attempt to escape subdue, it will contain this detail.  You don't lose any functionality, and now you have an emote cocked and ready to go - prepping you for an RPT or a trip through raider-infested sands or whatever.  I'd also encourage you to change the alias after it's been used once or twice to avoid being repetitious (once you're out of danger).

2. If you only somewhat suspect a player of plotting your demise, don't forget about the 'watch' command.  This could buy you some time if you're lucky.

3. Avoid alleys and long strolls by yourself at night - just as you might in real life in an unfamiliar and dangerous city.

In the case of mean beasties like mekillots and bahamets, of course, just GTFO as quick as you can. NPCs are twinks and don't emote.

Also, n.b., not all NPCs are as stupid as you might think.  Some will try to rendezvous with you even once you feel you're safe...

[Reiloth]

Run is a status, so if you type 'run', you will speed up to a fast run. Don't make the mistake of 'run south'. It's just a state. So Run sets you to run, walk to walk, sneak to sneak (if you can).

[Cale_Knight]

Fleeing also makes you run, so make sure you hit "walk" once you're safe, or else you're going to sprint all your stamina away and suddenly find yourself without any moves left.

[KankWhisperer]

My characters often find themselves in dangerous situations.  They are worried they will die but it's their duty or they can't appear weak. It's fine to be afraid unless dwarf. In that case enter spider nest to see if spiders can detect hidden, drop light so people can see what is in there, escape and calmy report your findings.

[Saellyn]

... rather than just "run; s; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e; e;" all the way back to safety.

run is a command?  Okay...  I guess I really just walked away from danger..   Good to learn this now before I have a bahamet or other big nasty on me.  

If you're on foot in bahamet territory I think running is the least of your concerns, one of the highest likely being "why did my mount abandon me" followed by "what am I doing out here!?"



Staying inside really is no safer than going outside to an extent, because death waits for you inside too.

[Fujikoma]

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