Adding a gem at character generation

[Kaiden]

Not to derail too much, but would it be possible to have some sort of 'vendor' type in the Hall of Kings for those who play a magicker that has been gemmed before character creation?

[Bacon]

Not to derail too much, but would it be possible to have some sort of 'vendor' type in the Hall of Kings for those who play a magicker that has been gemmed before character creation?

This is a damned good idea.

[ShaLeah]

Not to derail too much, but would it be possible to have some sort of 'vendor' type in the Hall of Kings for those who play a magicker that has been gemmed before character creation?

This is a damned good idea.

That would totally screw up the fun of having to find a Templar to gem you (and keep track of you) - Boo Hisss that idea!

[Bacon]

Not to derail too much, but would it be possible to have some sort of 'vendor' type in the Hall of Kings for those who play a magicker that has been gemmed before character creation?

This is a damned good idea.

That would totally screw up the fun of having to find a Templar to gem you (and keep track of you) - Boo Hisss that idea!

There's no fun involved really. I just wish up and stand around waiting. What you're talking about would still exist for those who enter the game having not already been gemmed ic.

[Kaiden]

Not to derail too much, but would it be possible to have some sort of 'vendor' type in the Hall of Kings for those who play a magicker that has been gemmed before character creation?

This is a damned good idea.

That would totally screw up the fun of having to find a Templar to gem you (and keep track of you) - Boo Hisss that idea!

When I create characters who have already been gemmed, I always have to wish up for a gem. Sometime I'm lucky and I get one right away, but other times, there's no one around and I have to wait for hours, unable to do much of anything because you can't really go around without a gem, and then, the next day you meet someone, you have to explain to them that you always had that gem, just not on the day you met them?

Don't worry, when a Templar meets you and they don't know who you are and you are gemmed, they will make certain to know who you are and what you're capable of.

[Nyr]

This was a derail so I moved it into its own thread in the proper forum.

[X-D]

I think the current system is fine, I have never had a problem if my mage was supposed to already be gemmed.

Go stand next to npc templar in gemmed quarter, change objective, Supposed to already be gemmed.

Wish all Hey, my PC is supposed to already be gemmed, little help please?

Long as I was not in game at an odd time, I have never had to wish more then 2 times in 30 minutes...Gem in 30 minutes or less or your money back!

Other then that, I actually enjoy the PC interaction with a PC templar to get a gem on my other mages, it is good to get that introduction to your local blue robe.

[Kaiden]

Oh, I agree that it's not that big of a deal, but if it's something as easy to do than to add a simple vendor that gives you a black gem if you need it, where's the harm in it?

Just like the tuluki tattooes, really.

[titansfan]

Still makes it awkward if in your background it states you've been gemmed for so and so years now.... what do you say..."oh my gem is at the cleaner" I second this idea and I have thought it should have been implemented in some form for years now..

[X-D]

Meh, I do not see it as awkward.

But then again, I am perfectly willing to tell somebody, if they hassle my PC.

OOC Hey, I am waiting for staff setup...move along, nothing to see here.

[Cutthroat]

This might be a good thing to add to the Allanaki starting shop, once it's implemented.

[EldritchOrigins]

I don't think it's a problem.

If my elementalist has been gemmed since before entering the game, I wish up.  I haven't had a problem with this, but it's been a few years since I've played a gemmer.  If staff don't do this for some reason, I think it's a shame.

The interaction from getting gemmed is good.  I think if elementalist characters had the option to start with a gem, they'd take it more often than seeking out PC templars, and that would be bad.

[Old Kank]

This might be a good thing to add to the Allanaki starting shop, once it's implemented.

Yup. 

It's not a big problem, but it's also not a complicated solution.  I can't think of many compelling reasons NOT to do it.  If elementalists want to start the game gemmed, I say let 'em.

[musashi]

I wouldn't mind seeing something like this in game.

[Ouroboros]

This might be a good thing to add to the Allanaki starting shop, once it's implemented.

Agreed. And one less thing to have to hassle staff with, for those that start our gemmed in their backgrounds. It'd just need a clear indicator, like the tattoo area of Tuluk, as opposed to listing it in a shop among other things. Hate to see some newbie think it's a nice accent for their mundane's starting outfit...

[ShaLeah]

If there's an option to get a gem at creation what's to stop a newb-newb from getting one and entering the game with a nice dull black gem?

(clearly I don't know anything about coding and whether or not it's possible to restrict the 'sale' of a gem to a non magicker)

[Bacon]

Well it could have a message attached at the pre-game vendor explaining the gem briefly. Not a big deal.

[Kaiden]

If there's an option to get a gem at creation what's to stop a newb-newb from getting one and entering the game with a nice dull black gem?

(clearly I don't know anything about coding and whether or not it's possible to restrict the 'sale' of a gem to a non magicker)

Yes, a simple sign in the room.

What prevents a newb newb from buying hisr Tuluki caste tattooes and placing them on his left foot and right shoulder?

[ShaLeah]

If there's an option to get a gem at creation what's to stop a newb-newb from getting one and entering the game with a nice dull black gem?

(clearly I don't know anything about coding and whether or not it's possible to restrict the 'sale' of a gem to a non magicker)

Yes, a simple sign in the room.

What prevents a newb newb from buying hisr Tuluki caste tattooes and placing them on his left foot and right shoulder?

I'm a southern gal. Although maybe I want me some for my next southerner!

[musashi]

If there's an option to get a gem at creation what's to stop a newb-newb from getting one and entering the game with a nice dull black gem?

(clearly I don't know anything about coding and whether or not it's possible to restrict the 'sale' of a gem to a non magicker)

Yes, a simple sign in the room.

What prevents a newb newb from buying hisr Tuluki caste tattooes and placing them on his left foot and right shoulder?

Heh, I've see this kind of thing happen once before. You just go OOC immediately and tell the player that they should wish up to get that fixed. I imagine we could do the exact same thing if we saw an obviously new PC with a gem who wasn't a 'gicker.

[Talia]

Heh, I've see this kind of thing happen once before. You just go OOC immediately and tell the player that they should wish up to get that fixed. I imagine we could do the exact same thing if we saw an obviously new PC with a gem who wasn't a 'gicker.

The problem here is that it requires an Admin+ to fix problems on a PC. So it's not as simple as just wishing up; there's likely to be no one on at the time who can help.

I'm not in favor of putting the gem on an NPC in a starting gear area. It will cause more problems than it fixes. Any staffer can hand off a gem to a PC who's in need of one per background and wishes up; or, the player can file a reimbursement request and get the issue solved that way. We don't even get wishes for this that often. The "problem" is being blown out of proportion to reality.

[musashi]

To play the devil's advocate a little, it seems like ... with the option for caste tattoos available to everyone who points tuluk, people who put them in the wrong location are pretty minimal, right?

That's with every single Tuluki PC who apps in making use of that vendor.

Not every single Allanaki PC who apps in would make use of a gem dispensing vendor, not even every Allanaki 'gicker would. So it seems to reason that such problems would creep up even less than they do with the folks who have star tattoos on their back.

[lordcooper]

Couldn't it be presented as an option in char gen?

Guild: Rukkian
Subguild: Thug
Gemmed?: Yes

[Nyr]

We can currently make PCs of certain tribes automatically get "basic outfitting" and get sent to the proper place with no staff intervention.  I am not sure of the code required, but suspect it is possible to extend this to account for a guild as well as the point location (reference to the Tuluki caste tattoo derail in this case). I can discuss with Tiernan or Morgenes.

I agree that I don't think there's a big problem with this getting overlooked by staff--at worst, if you get no one when you wish up, you can put in a request.

Heh, I've see this kind of thing happen once before. You just go OOC immediately and tell the player that they should wish up to get that fixed. I imagine we could do the exact same thing if we saw an obviously new PC with a gem who wasn't a 'gicker.

The problem here is that it requires an Admin+ to fix problems on a PC. So it's not as simple as just wishing up; there's likely to be no one on at the time who can help.

I've found ways around this for STs; I'll let you know what I have done in the past on this.

[Talia]

I've found ways around this for STs; I'll let you know what I have done in the past on this.

Tricksy. Thanks for that.