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Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« on: February 23, 2011, 02:19:56 PM »
TEH RULEZ:

Synthesis has to explain one thing before another can be posted. 

If Synthesis doesn't desire to explain, Synthesis may 'opt out' by just posting 'opt out of this one because I can't handle this shit, it is entirely too fucking weird.'

The above 'opt out' rule does not pertain to the first post, which is linked below.

First explanation desired:
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/what-happens-when-you-stick-your-head-into-a-particle-accelerator/
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 04:00:11 PM »
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 04:33:55 PM »
Synthesis has to explain one thing before another can be posted.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 04:39:51 PM »
Synthesis has to explain one thing before another can be posted.

It's okay, Mansa doesn't understand.  He's Canadian.  We'll just ignore him until Synthesis gets this, and then, if Synthesis desires, he can answered the Canadian Cock Conundrum.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 06:50:40 PM »
TEH RULEZ:

Synthesis has to explain one thing before another can be posted.  

If Synthesis doesn't desire to explain, Synthesis may 'opt out' by just posting 'opt out of this one because I can't handle this shit, it is entirely too fucking weird.'

The above 'opt out' rule does not pertain to the first post, which is linked below.

First explanation desired:
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/03/what-happens-when-you-stick-your-head-into-a-particle-accelerator/

I don't really do physics, so I'll just have to guess that the particle beam did some sort of damage to the tissue along its path (my first guess would be heat).  

He retained mental/cognitive function (assuming the diagram in the article is correct) because it looks like the beam entirely missed the prefrontal cortex where all your fancy theorizin' goes on.  He lost hearing on one side because it looks like the beam passed behind the primary auditory cortex, so I'm guessing inputs/outputs related to that area were damaged (it's a little difficult to judge without a coronal section).  I'd be interested to know if he also had problems with proprioception/vertigo afterward, as that would suggest a more specific lesion to the vestibulocochlear nerve.  Facial paralysis is also difficult to judge from just those two pictures, but my guess is that it hit the facial nerve on the way out, since the paralysis was ipsilateral to the supposed lesion (if it was damage to the cortex on the left side controlling the muscles of facial expression, the right side of his face would've been paralyzed).  It also could've damaged the facial nucleus in the pons, but since the pons is pretty small, I'd expect a beam like that to have a wider variety of symptoms, because a whole lot of stuff passes through there.

The paralyzed side of his face looked more "youthful" for the same reason Botox works--paralysis.  Seizures either from the damage itself, or faulty re-wiring post-insult.

Edited to add:  I'd also be interested to know whether the paralysis was purely motor or also sensory, since a motor-only lesion would point specifically to facial nerve damage, while sensory and motor would suggest separate facial and trigeminal nerve lesions.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 07:21:31 PM »
Why does it hurt when I pee?

Infection is the most likely cause, if it's persistent (e.g. gonorrhea, chlamydia, trichomoniasis, or even coliforms if you're sticking it in someone's poop-chute).  I guess it also could be ordinary skin flora if you have some sort of genital piercing that traverses the urethra.

If it's transient, it might merely be chemical irritation from whatever soap you're using to wash your junk.

Otherwise...trauma...cancer...could be passing a kidney stone...after that, there's probably a bunch of unlikely/rare stuff.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 07:46:02 PM »
Synthesis: Is your avatar from a movie of some sort, or was it just a freaky avatar you found?
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2011, 08:24:50 PM »
Synthesis: Is your avatar from a movie of some sort, or was it just a freaky avatar you found?

I'm less interested in the answer to this than I am in how Synthesis will explain it scientifically.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2011, 08:26:17 PM »
Synthesis: Is your avatar from a movie of some sort, or was it just a freaky avatar you found?

I'm less interested in the answer to this than I am in how Synthesis will explain it scientifically.
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And then I sat there going "really? that was it? that's so stupid."

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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 08:38:25 PM »
Synthesis: Is your avatar from a movie of some sort, or was it just a freaky avatar you found?

I just did a Google image search for "backstab," and it was one of the first that popped up.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2011, 08:47:02 PM »
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2011, 09:48:38 PM »
Let's actually challenge the man.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3236118.stm

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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2011, 10:03:29 PM »
Let's actually challenge the man.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3236118.stm

Doctors and experts Half-wits and morons are baffled by an Indian hermit who claims not to have eaten or drunk anything for several decades - but is still in perfect health.

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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2011, 11:29:29 PM »
Magnets, how do they work?
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 09:39:18 AM »
Electrons in unpaired orbitals whose magnetic dipole moments are arranged in parallel (if you're talking about regular magnets), or by movement of electric current (if you're talking about electromagnets).

That's probably a pretty lame answer by a physicist's standards, but as I said earlier, I don't really do physics.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2011, 10:57:29 AM »
Why can't natural synergies be reproduced using their individual chemical components?

In layman's terms: you can isolate each chemical component of eucalyptus oil, but if you took those isolated components and mixed them together, you wouldn't end up with eucalyptus oil. Why?
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2011, 05:09:23 PM »
Why can't natural synergies be reproduced using their individual chemical components?

In layman's terms: you can isolate each chemical component of eucalyptus oil, but if you took those isolated components and mixed them together, you wouldn't end up with eucalyptus oil. Why?

I imagine that there are many such combinations that can be reproduced simply by mixing.

As for the others, there are probably a variety of reasons for it...just off the top of my head, I'm guessing: catalysts not present in the final product or chemical/physical conditions (e.g. temperature, pressure, pH) necessary to overcome the activation energies for particular steps in the process (if you're talking about precursors and synthesis when you say "component") and microstructures within the final product that are only reproducible under specific conditions or in the presence of intermediaries not in the final mixture (if you're talking about only final products).  Chemistry and biology are a lot more complicated than "you mix A and B and get C."

If you're talking about eucalyptus oil specifically, I couldn't really say.  Intuitively, it seems like if you accurately identified every component of the extract and its proportion, you'd be able to reproduce it exactly.  From a quick Google search, it looks like the stuff is just steam-distilled, so it's unlikely to contain any complex cellular components or other structures.  My guess would be that it's simply difficult to analyze the mixture without changing components of it, so that the final results of any particular analysis aren't accurate.

Edited to add:  "simply difficult..." that's a funny term, like "civil war."
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2011, 05:53:17 PM »
Emotions.

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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2011, 05:53:40 PM »
Fucking magnets, how do the-

Magnets, how do they work?

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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2011, 06:45:17 PM »
Lobster sticks to magnet.  Never a miscommunication.

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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2011, 07:02:39 PM »
Emotions.

Cognition and neurotransmitters.

Lobster sticks to magnet.  Never a miscommunication.

Heh.  I think poor Bill was attempting to lay out the "God as arbiter/creator of natural laws" argument, but he skipped most of the steps in the process.
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2011, 07:57:31 PM »
Free will vs rules of gravity ?
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2011, 09:12:27 PM »
The BEES! WHERE ARE ALL THE BEES?!?!

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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2011, 09:30:34 PM »
The BEES! WHERE ARE ALL THE BEES?!?!

Didn't the FDA or someone come out and say they contracted companies to kill everything?
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Re: Shit you want Synthesis to explain scientifically.
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2011, 09:34:21 PM »
Those damn scheming bees!  >:(