tdesc interrupts concentration?

[spawnloser]

When doing an ongoing task that can be disrupted by you doing something, why is 'tdesc clear' one of these?  Personally, I've the opinion that a 'stop' command shouldn't interrupt crafting, and 'tdesc clear' seems to fit closer to that command than others, even though it puts you into the editor in its normal usage of 'tdesc'.  What say others?

[Archbaron]

Agreed.

[Lizzie]

It sounds like an oversight. Why not just bug it?

[musashi]

tdesc! I was WONDERING how to do that!!!! Thanks.

[MarshallDFX]

Why wouldn't you want the stop command to stop interrupt crafting?

[Archbaron]

Why wouldn't you want the stop command to stop interrupt crafting?

Stop, generally, is reserved for ceasing a queue of commands.

[hyzhenhok]

Why wouldn't you want the stop command to stop interrupt crafting?

Stop, generally, is reserved for ceasing a queue of commands.

No, it's used to cease any command that has not been executed yet. You can use "stop" to cancel any number of skills which have before-action delay. I don't see why crafting should be any different.

[musashi]

Isn't "queue of commands" and "commands that have not been executed yet" the same damn thing?

[Archbaron]

Isn't "queue of commands" and "commands that have not been executed yet" the same damn thing?

Yes. Thank you.

[musashi]

You're welcome, and my what a fast reply 

[Archbaron]

You're welcome, and my what a fast reply 

Well, I kept re-reading my post and his post trying to see the difference.

I understand what he's saying though, that since crafting is a before-delay skill, it should also be affected by stop like other skills with the same delay, and I can agree with that. But his first sentence just tells me he didn't read my post.

[spawnloser]

There is a difference between commands that haven't been begun and those that have, though.  Crafting, you get a message that says something about you beginning crafting.  Thus, the 'craft ...' command HAS been executed.  It hasn't completed.  It is no longer in the commands queue.  Stop clears the queue of commands you have entered, not things that your character has already begun, and thus the stop command is purely OOC in its current implementation and I would like it to remain that way.  You want to stop crafting, end it in some other way.  Still, that's not the focus of this thread.

Should 'tdesc clear' interrupt concentration on ongoing tasks that your character is doing?  I don't think so.  Explain why you do or don't think so instead of derailing please.

[Archbaron]

There is a difference between commands that haven't been begun and those that have, though.  Crafting, you get a message that says something about you beginning crafting.  Thus, the 'craft ...' command HAS been executed.  It hasn't completed.  It is no longer in the commands queue.  Stop clears the queue of commands you have entered, not things that your character has already begun, and thus the stop command is purely OOC in its current implementation and I would like it to remain that way.  You want to stop crafting, end it in some other way.  Still, that's not the focus of this thread.

That's kind along the lines of what I was thinking, looking back on my merchants. Thank you for clarifying.

Should 'tdesc clear' interrupt concentration on ongoing tasks that your character is doing?  I don't think so.  Explain why you do or don't think so instead of derailing please.

As I've said, no, it shouldn't. Tdesc is an OOC command that your character does not physically enact and therefore should not interrupt an action. I don't think there's much room for debate on this, I think it was just overlooked in implementation and it just needs a quick fix.

[spawnloser]

I know you believe it shouldn't interrupt concentration, ArchBaron.  I'm looking for other feedback from others, including staff.

[IAmJacksOpinion]

I agree, but at the same time I don't think it's a big issue.

I mean, you should be emoting crafting while you're crafting, not braiding your hair or painting your nails.