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Title: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 30, 2016, 08:32:38 PM
I wish they would put in

1) a case for holding guitar/lute/harp type instruments.

2) a wider selection of instruments in simple and crude forms contrasting those of Tuluk, with lesser variety and complexity, and with materials from the south (certain bones and hides, clay, obsidian)

3) the ability to sell picks to the shop, which it currently doesn't have.

Any ideas or thoughts?
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Yam on April 30, 2016, 08:58:21 PM
Can't PCs open shops now?
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Iiyola on April 30, 2016, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: Yam on April 30, 2016, 08:58:21 PM
Can't PCs open shops now?
They can, but it's a loooong process.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: roobee on April 30, 2016, 09:11:59 PM
also, if the items don't exist yet wouldn't they have to master craft all of them even after becoming a shop?
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Barsook on April 30, 2016, 09:25:52 PM
Does Allanak already has a minor merchant house that only deals with the bardic art?  I feel like merchant houses, minor and major, really fit into the Allanaki culture.  From what I understand and what I have seen, it looks like Allanak only has that elf who sells these items.  While, I'm for a PC starting a shop, but like it was pointed out earlier, it's a long (and impossible) process.  Perhaps, the bardic family members of that last role call can team up with the staff and work on this minor merchant house.  I feel like one does exist but virtually.

#forbardicartsinallanak
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Erythil on April 30, 2016, 09:26:53 PM
The last time I know of someone who was interested in creating a music oriented MMH, they were told 'no, Kadius does that.'
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Barsook on April 30, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
I'm aware of that and it's in the docs, but...good point.  I guess we need a push towards more bardic art in Allanak with some staff support.  (or I'm crazy?)
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Desertman on April 30, 2016, 09:40:16 PM
It really doesn't take that long to open your own shop.

If you hit the ground running with it when you start your PC then in reality becoming a shopkeeper doesn't take very long.

You can achieve it in 3 IC years in fact.

There are many Byn Sergeants who are Troopers/Runners longer than three IC years to become a Sergeant.

You can become a shopkeeper with your own shop in less than the amount of time it takes to become a Byn Sergeant.

The real problem?

The shops are required to be full of your own mastercrafts.

As a shopkeeper you have no coded clan status.

Because you have no coded clan status that means every mastercraft you put in your shop only has to be bought once then nobody will ever buy anything from your shop again.......because now everyone can craft it.

It makes the idea of being a shopkeeper little more than a "provide the playerbase with recipes" model....which sucks.

The time to get a shop.....easy mode.....the desire to put anything into one as opposed to selling directly so you can monitor who's doing what with "your goods" to a greater degree....nonexistent.  

So yeah, you can open your own music shop, but I wouldn't count on ever selling more than a couple of your items if you make them available to the public in that regard.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Yam on April 30, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Oh. Didn't realize shops could only be stocked with mastercrafts.

That seems unfeasible.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Jihelu on April 30, 2016, 10:11:58 PM
Quote from: Yam on April 30, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Oh. Didn't realize shops could only be stocked with mastercrafts.

That seems unfeasible.
I think until you get to a certain point of merchant status you are stuck with mc's.
So...
Like 1-2 items unless you make your own shit constantly.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Delirium on May 12, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
Bardic minor merchant house. Put that elf outta business, son!
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Norcal on May 12, 2016, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: Delirium on May 12, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
Bardic minor merchant house. Put that elf outta business, son!

+1
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Barsook on May 12, 2016, 11:36:20 AM
Quote from: Norcal on May 12, 2016, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: Delirium on May 12, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
Bardic minor merchant house. Put that elf outta business, son!

+1
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Jherlen on May 12, 2016, 12:39:36 PM
The Bards of Meleth's Circle?
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Barsook on May 12, 2016, 12:41:14 PM
Too Tuluki to me.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Delirium on May 12, 2016, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: Jherlen on May 12, 2016, 12:39:36 PM
The Bards of Meleth's Circle?

Duh.  8)
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: BrokenRomance on May 12, 2016, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Barsook on May 12, 2016, 12:41:14 PM
Too Tuluki to me.

We'll just have to scream HIGHLORD a lot to change it.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Inks on May 18, 2016, 04:32:44 AM
Make sure to categorise all your employees by coded guild, too. You could call them all "guards" "makers" and "getters". You're the man now dog.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Inks on May 18, 2016, 04:40:30 AM
Or maybe soldier medic and sniper would be better. Either way bards are totally awesome and I agree with OP. The best bards are often talentless ones who are oocly fun to watch. I remember fuji playing an awful bard who would get booed off stage. Good times.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Majikal on May 18, 2016, 05:14:40 AM
I don't see any reason it would be difficult to get ahold of an instrument in Allanak, especially after the recent events in history resulting in a huge influx of Tuluki refugees of which I'm sure there was at least one dude that could string a guitar or carve a flute. There's nothing to back up the idea that entertainers aren't enjoyed in Allanak. It's sort of silly that it's easier to get your hands on a thal-knot of spice than it is to get a lute in Nak.

Expanding the music store doesn't make nak too tuluki, it makes character concepts easier to obtain without the use of special requests and that's about it.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Suhuy on May 18, 2016, 06:15:48 AM
Quote from: Majikal on May 18, 2016, 05:14:40 AM
It's sort of silly that it's easier to get your hands on a thal-knot of spice than it is to get a lute in Nak.

Not to quibble, but lutes are already sold in Allanak.

Though I agree with the general sentiment that we could do with an increase in instruments in general.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: The Silence of the Erdlus on May 18, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
It seems that somebody decided to make some of the one-off instruments that appear in the shop every reboot infinite in number. Thanks, staff!
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: The Lonely Hunter on June 01, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
I would hate to see bards become any bigger part than they already are. Allanak has already had a layer of sugar put on in the last few years and with Tuluk closing it seems even worse.

I feel as if there is too much bardic flavor going on in Allanak as it is right now. Songs, comedy, stage performances, etc always seemed far more (new)Tuluk to me. Sure, Allanak has -some- but to me Allanak's sense of entertainment more along the lines with mutilating people, being mean, watching gladiators kill each other, assassinate people openly, torture-entertainment, brawls sorts of things.

Just my 2 sids.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: LauraMars on June 01, 2016, 08:00:47 PM
Make Allanak Mean Again 2016
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: BadSkeelz on June 01, 2016, 08:06:47 PM
Replace >look with >kill command 2016
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Norcal on June 01, 2016, 11:37:22 PM
Quote from: The Lonely Hunter on June 01, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
I would hate to see bards become any bigger part than they already are. Allanak has already had a layer of sugar put on in the last few years and with Tuluk closing it seems even worse.

I feel as if there is too much bardic flavor going on in Allanak as it is right now. Songs, comedy, stage performances, etc always seemed far more (new)Tuluk to me. Sure, Allanak has -some- but to me Allanak's sense of entertainment more along the lines with mutilating people, being mean, watching gladiators kill each other, assassinate people openly, torture-entertainment, brawls sorts of things.

Just my 2 sids.

As far as I can see, all of those things are still taking place in Allanak, except maybe open assasinations.  So now you get the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Desertman on June 02, 2016, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: The Lonely Hunter on June 01, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
I would hate to see bards become any bigger part than they already are. Allanak has already had a layer of sugar put on in the last few years and with Tuluk closing it seems even worse.

I feel as if there is too much bardic flavor going on in Allanak as it is right now. Songs, comedy, stage performances, etc always seemed far more (new)Tuluk to me. Sure, Allanak has -some- but to me Allanak's sense of entertainment more along the lines with mutilating people, being mean, watching gladiators kill each other, assassinate people openly, torture-entertainment, brawls sorts of things.

Just my 2 sids.

+1
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Rathustra on June 02, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
Sorry guys. You don't get to have all the Tulukis playing in Allanak without them having things they enjoy there.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Desertman on June 02, 2016, 11:53:08 AM
u gimme wut aye wunt or ur fite meh bro
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Giled on June 02, 2016, 12:03:24 PM
Quote from: Rathustra on June 02, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
Sorry guys. You don't get to have all the Tulukis playing in Allanak without them having things they enjoy there.

(dipping his head respectfully) Thank you, Faithful Lord.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Malken on June 02, 2016, 12:07:00 PM
softly.
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Rathustra on June 02, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
WHICH IS CODE FOR THE RETURN OF THE LIBERATION ALLIANCE. KABOOOOM.
(http://i.imgur.com/5XUAC6b.gif)
Title: Re: Expand the music store in Allanak
Post by: Jherlen on June 02, 2016, 01:20:56 PM
Bring back an NPC with the bard script like the guy in the Barrel had before he got killed (back when it was still the Barrel).

I want to be able to see The Ladies Love a Stone Mage and The Oash, They Are A'Hiring performed again!