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Title: Isilt
Post by: jstorrie on June 14, 2004, 03:17:22 PM
from help_isilt:

Isilt, made of bone that has been treated with heavy oil and exposed to a process that allows it to harden to a substance that is hard, durable, and aesthetically pleasing, is used rarely in building, more commonly in jewelry, small weapons, and objets d'art. Because it is a northern technology, it is rarely seen in the southlands, and accordingly more expensive when encountered there.


From what I understand, isilt is bone treated in such a manner that it becomes stronger and awesome-lookinger.  Why, then, do I never see any isilt weapons or armor?  Is isilt a suitable material for either?
Title: Isilt
Post by: JollyGreenGiant on June 14, 2004, 03:25:53 PM
I have seen isilt weapons before, so those at least exist.

Dunno about armor though.
Title: Isilt
Post by: Carnage on June 14, 2004, 04:21:59 PM
What are objets d'art?
Title: Isilt
Post by: jstorrie on June 14, 2004, 04:24:20 PM
Artsy trinkets.
Title: Isilt
Post by: crymerci on June 14, 2004, 04:40:52 PM
There is a shop in Tuluk that sells isilt jewelry and weapons (and possibly a small piece of armor or two, I forget).  It's not easy to find, although it's not hidden, either.  I don't think that its location is meant to be a secret, but I don't want to risk giving it away just in case it is.

Anyway, just look around where you'd expect something like that to be sold, but look a little more carefully.
Title: Isilt
Post by: jstorrie on June 14, 2004, 04:57:49 PM
I'm asking specifically because I'd like to know the properties of isilt, not where to buy it.  I don't want to write up any items that are implausible, after all.
Title: Isilt
Post by: crymerci on June 14, 2004, 05:49:26 PM
It's fairly expensive even in the North, if I recall.  I could envision a bracer or a collar made of it but not a breastplate.  Unless it was on a noble's whim and they commissioned it from a merchant house.
Title: Isilt
Post by: Bogre on June 14, 2004, 07:12:17 PM
Uhm, they have -roads- made out of the stuff.
Title: Isilt
Post by: crymerci on June 14, 2004, 07:13:41 PM
Then they either need to fix the helpfile or adjust the prices in that shop.
Title: Isilt
Post by: Xygax on June 14, 2004, 07:39:27 PM
Isilt is not the same thing as silt.

- X

For those that haven't done this yet:

Quote from: "help isilt"ISILT                                                  (Culture)

  Isilt, made of bone that has been treated with heavy oil
and exposed to a process that allows it to harden to a substance
that is hard, durable, and aesthetically pleasing, is used
rarely in building, more commonly in jewelry, small weapons,
and objets d'art.  Because it is a northern technology, it is
rarely seen in the southlands, and accordingly more expensive
when encountered there.
Title: Isilt
Post by: Gilvar on June 14, 2004, 08:22:40 PM
Quote
small weapons

If anyone wants to write up some very fancy (expensive) weapons using isilt and send them in to me, I'd be happy to implement them. Keep in mind that the process would probably only be good for small knives, daggers, dirks, darts, and things of that nature.

gilvar@armageddon.org
Title: Isilt
Post by: Laeris on June 14, 2004, 09:10:43 PM
Quote from: "crymerci"Then they either need to fix the helpfile or adjust the prices in that shop.

The prices in a shop do not necessarily come from the material that they are made from alone, but a combination of material, craftsmanship, and purpose.
Title: Isilt
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on June 14, 2004, 09:25:48 PM
I think the primary question which comes to mind is this. Is isilt too expensive for use on a grander scale, such as swords and hammerheads, spear-tips, amor, and the like?
Title: Isilt
Post by: Gilvar on June 14, 2004, 09:30:53 PM
Probably for a commoner. Its value comes from its appealing look, combined with its increased hardness. For the cost, I think a typical commoner would choose to just use a bone sword, as probably a handful of bone swords would still be cheaper then an isilt one. But if a northern noble wants to look flashy and show that he has money, he may buy an isilt belt-knife, or something of the like. Maybe a sword. There is plenty of bone and plenty of animal fat, so it could be done, just would be expensive and not common.
Title: Isilt
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on June 14, 2004, 09:34:55 PM
Heh. I meant to say flimsy, not expensive.
Title: Isilt
Post by: Gilvar on June 14, 2004, 09:39:09 PM
Isilt is harder then untreated bone, so it would be much better. Not flimsy.
Title: Isilt
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on June 14, 2004, 09:42:48 PM
In short, then, writing up items of isilt is completely valid for any item that might usually be of bone, wood or stone. However, note that it will be very expensive and may not be put in at all if it is more than an item of jewlery, a small weapon, or some other such small thing, as such a thing of expense is generally too expensive for the market. The larger items would only be used in the case of a special order, or some signifigant occurance.
Title: Isilt
Post by: Gilvar on June 14, 2004, 09:57:22 PM
Adding items to the database does not nesecessarily mean they will be put in a widely available market in the commons. By asking for fancy and expensive items, its pretty much a given that they will be a little rare.

Larger items your correct on, which is why Im not asking for large ones.
Title: Isilt
Post by: jstorrie on June 15, 2004, 08:11:01 AM
That's the information I was looking for.  Thanks, everyone.