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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Tamarin on December 21, 2003, 09:40:29 PM

Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Tamarin on December 21, 2003, 09:40:29 PM
Somtimes I do this:

emote places his hand over %<some person>

I see:

The black haired man places his hand over the black haired woman's.

Sounds good, right?

They see:

The black haired man places his hand over your.  (<--- no 's' on your)

Would it be feasable to code something like:

emote places his hand over %woman's (<--- adding the apostrophe as a sign to add the 's' to your)

so that the message you see remains the same, but they see:

The black haired man places his hand over yours.

Does this make any sense at all?
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Wintermute on December 21, 2003, 09:45:26 PM
In these situations, I tend to:

em places his hand over %<the supergorgeous ninja babe> hand.

I know, it's awkward, but it's a fix.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Ueda on December 21, 2003, 09:47:32 PM
emo places his hand over %so & so shoulder.

They see... Someone places his hand over your shoulder.

The way you propose... Someone places his hand over yours shoulder.

It just doesn't make sence, I don't know, maybe I'm just seeing this wrong.?
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: FiveDisgruntledMonkeysWit on December 21, 2003, 09:55:40 PM
Hows about:

EMOTE places his hand over %woman own.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Tamarin on December 21, 2003, 09:55:59 PM
Ueda, its more when the two body parts are the same...like two hands, two sets of eyes...whatever...by repeating hand or whatever, it adds redundancy.

The one you did is totally cool.  I suggest having both.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: sacac on December 22, 2003, 01:39:45 AM
Well Ueda..
The idea was to add -'s- onto '%babe'
So.. yeah I think we should keep %babe and mayb add '*babe'
For '%babe's' So it wont mess up on the keyword part :)
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: spawnloser on December 22, 2003, 03:06:41 AM
I had this idea a while back.  I proposed, at that time, a NEW emote tag...not %, but & (or something) that would show like...

emo places his hands over &person
You see: (your sdesc here) places his hands over person's.
They see: (your sdesc here) places his hands over yours.
Everyone else sees: (your sdesc here) places his hands over person's.

Don't screw with what works...just add something else that works too.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on December 22, 2003, 10:13:57 AM
Actually, a simple check in the code as to whether the %word or ^word has a comma or word after it would work fine. If there is no word or there is a comma, then it would translate out to indicate yours. If there is a word after it, with no comma or period, then it translates to your.

Very simple, actually.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Bestatte on December 22, 2003, 10:17:42 AM
Not nearly as simple as you think...

Because a lot of folks make grammatical errors fairly often, and put commas where they shouldn't go, and omit them where they should go. It would end up being a mess.

I like the idea of a new emote symbol to signify "yours."
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on December 22, 2003, 10:25:38 AM
The modification to the code itself would be simple.

Also, I agree with the grammarical mistakes. However, I don't see them as being too large a problem with the check. How many times have you seen folks type, "em places his hands over %sara, hands"?
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Northlander on December 22, 2003, 10:26:38 AM
With Venomz's idea, the whole 'puts his hand over %person as/while/during/etc' thing would get messed up. I still think his idea is the best way to fix this though; it's a smooth fix for almost all situations and I can deal with it not working in the others.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on December 22, 2003, 10:38:21 AM
Bah...I'd not even thought of that situation. My bad.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: spawnloser on December 22, 2003, 03:36:58 PM
How is it a smooth fix?  Not every situation will be the same, meaning that at times, things will get screwed up in the grammatical sense.  I still say, "Add a new modifier tag like &."
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: Northlander on December 22, 2003, 03:52:26 PM
Smooth as in making use of an already existing modifier tag and as in not creating any trouble for the emoter save keeping in mind when it'll echo a bit wrongly. Less modifier tags to keep track of, as well. It isn't a problem for you or me, but as a complete newbie, all the tags of the emote system scared me quite a bit.

What is most appealing about Venomz's idea is that the extra tag has been suggested before without anything happening. Maybe there's a greater chance of our imm coders changing the already existant % tag.

I get by with using 'own' but it feels very clumsy indeed, and would welcome this change in either and any version.
Title: Another emote gripe
Post by: spawnloser on December 22, 2003, 03:54:28 PM
Personally, I believe the tags we have are great...if they are confusing, go to the Armageddon store and buy the sticker to put on your monitor or make a cheap knock-off.  Adding one more emote targetting tag shouldn't be too much more for people to deal with.