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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Mendel on June 18, 2023, 11:44:42 PM

Title: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Mendel on June 18, 2023, 11:44:42 PM
I just started again, and I don't know if this is a new change but:

I -cannot- separate a pile of bone lengths without the skinning skill? I don't care what the mechanics are, it is so intellectually jarring and immersion breaking that I will have to ASK someone to separate them for me.

It is a pile of bones. There is no nuance to the description. I don't care if I am bad at it. Let me sperate it.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Lotion on June 19, 2023, 12:39:13 AM
+1
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Inks on June 19, 2023, 01:46:37 AM
You can, with cooking or forage as far as I know, and less efficiently, pretty sure.

If this isn't working bug report for sure. Personally I also think it is stupid how hard it is for a normal dude to get at least a couple of usuable bones, the recipe should be a little easier.

I think I was the one who convinced them to put the cooking "seperate pile of bone" recipe in all those years back, I have a request about it poking about. So if it isn't working bug report it.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Jimpka_Moss on June 19, 2023, 05:47:33 AM
If you can't get bones from a pile of bone lengths, buy an expensive-ish skinning knife and try again. If having a skinning knife doesn't help, circle back to this. Inks is right, it's recently been changed to where everyone should be able to do this.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: JohnMichaelHenry on June 19, 2023, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: Inks on June 19, 2023, 01:46:37 AM
You can, with cooking or forage as far as I know, and less efficiently, pretty sure.

If this isn't working bug report for sure. Personally I also think it is stupid how hard it is for a normal dude to get at least a couple of usuable bones, the recipe should be a little easier.

I think I was the one who convinced them to put the cooking "seperate pile of bone" recipe in all those years back, I have a request about it poking about. So if it isn't working bug report it.

I edited this because I just tried it in game and I could NOT separate pile of bones with cooking at advanced. I thought sure it was showing up before under cooking skill as well as skinning.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Shaydee on June 19, 2023, 11:44:25 AM
I just checked and it is possible, it's just not exactly the same.

Quote'rack of ribs and a couple bones' using the 'cooking' skill.

Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Lotion on June 19, 2023, 12:15:21 PM
there is a different item with keyword bone.pile that can also be made into bone broth at a fire which can be separated with cooking and skinning but the pile of bone lengths is different
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Mendel on June 19, 2023, 01:42:53 PM
All I know is I tried it with a knife with "skinning knife" in the sdesc, apprentice cooking and apprentice foraging.

Could not craft it to separate.

If it is more advanced than that, I would be surprised, and very disappointed. It is so immersion breaking to look at a literal pile of bones and your character is just stumped on how to do anything with it.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Pariah on June 19, 2023, 01:46:18 PM
Yeah I think the pile of bones which gives you two short, two long and ribs is skinning only.

If you think they should be separable via cooking, I'd put a request in.  But traditionally when they do stuff like that, it's normally a fraction of what a skilled butcher (skinner) can get.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Brokkr on June 19, 2023, 02:36:55 PM
The alternate recipe is the one Shaydee noted.

However, it is not available at apprentice skill.  It is at Advanced, at a skill level that combat and light combat would need a tool that boosts cooking level in order to attempt at all.
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: BadSkeelz on June 19, 2023, 04:40:12 PM
Should that be lowered? It seems pretty high for a fairly mundane recipe (particularly when I suspect the cooking recipes gated behind it aren't as high themselves).
Title: Re: Pile of bone lengths.
Post by: Brokkr on June 19, 2023, 05:03:28 PM
I will try to remember to look at it when I am on more than just a phone, as you bring up a good point.  The cooking recipe prioritizes the food piece over the bones, so it would be good to somewhat match to those food recipes.