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General => World and Roleplaying Discussion => Topic started by: geminferno on February 12, 2023, 12:23:32 PM

Title: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: geminferno on February 12, 2023, 12:23:32 PM
It was suggested by the lovely Halaster to resurrect the discussion of staff using characters' backgrounds! Do you think this should resume again? I believe it's only right if someone's background is in-depth and has plot hooks built in that staff should be able to do something with it! Why not? This is a roleplay intensive MUD so why not facilitate some roleplay?
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Tailong on February 12, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
Im going to play devil's advocate again, say only certain people's backgrounds. Majority of players probably have a generic background and figure things out in game as they go, I know I do. Unless its a role call or special app, most characters are pretty blah and they shouldn't expect much use of their background in the first place. Actually, that should go for all characters. Excpect nothing, and be pleasantly surprised if it does happen.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: geminferno on February 12, 2023, 12:41:32 PM
Oh, I know specific characters. I specified that if a character's background has plot hooks and was in-depth and not one of those generic ones then staff should play with it, ya know?
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Gunnerblaster on February 12, 2023, 02:16:57 PM
I think your average, run-of-the-mill PC isn't going to have a background with any significant hooks that Staff should be obligated to make plot points out of, for them. To me, it sounds like wanting to be able to make a PC that has plot hooks that affect things in-game is akin to trying to make your PC a "main character" when, in fact, no one in ARM is a main character.

If you want a character involved with in-game plots and such, a special application or applying for a special role call is probably the best way to go about it.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: LindseyBalboa on February 12, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Wasn't it just like two months ago that staff said to just throw in a request if you, the player, are okay with staff having full discretion to use your character's background for rp purposes? Is that not a thing still, or was that just discussed on Discord?
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: whengravityfails on February 12, 2023, 04:28:28 PM
Quote from: LindseyBalboa on February 12, 2023, 03:13:17 PM
Wasn't it just like two months ago that staff said to just throw in a request if you, the player, are okay with staff having full discretion to use your character's background for rp purposes? Is that not a thing still, or was that just discussed on Discord?

It's still a thing as far as I know. I sent in a request to let them know my character's background is fair game and got a response.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Hestia on February 12, 2023, 06:09:12 PM
It looks like there are two different things being discussed here:

1) I want the staff to use my background to create rp plot stuff for me.
2) I want to let staff know that I consent to them using my background, if they choose.

I'd say, from my perspective, it's great if you consent to my using your background to RP scenes with your character. I might, or I might not, but it's great to know that I may.

If I get folks pointing out their backgrounds and saying "I'm putting this in my background and need some RP around it" I would probably answer exactly as I did above: I might, or I might not, but it's great to know that I may."

Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Veselka on February 15, 2023, 06:29:50 PM
I think they might be referencing this directive from Shabago:

https://gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,58019.0.html

Not sure how relevant point #2 is currently.

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2) Player background and player started plots:

Player created and/or started plots will continue to receive support, as they have these past years. This will come with the addition of staff utilizing player backgrounds if/as able to help tell a characters story on the micro level. Staff, when spotting something in the background of a player in their area, zone or clan that they wish to bring to life and have the available time, will do so. In order to make this less jarring or go against player wishes at present, it is asked that players note in a character report if they wish to have their background or bios be free game. This is an all or nothing aspect - either all of your background/bios are open for usage, or none.

My personal opinion, it should be a toggleable flag on your account, similar to the 'Review my RP' flag that isn't overly used as far as I know. Something like 'Do you give permission for Staff to use your background for future animations, plots, and plot devices? This is entirely optional, and can be toggled from the home screen after logging on to your account. [Y/N]
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Barsook on February 15, 2023, 06:32:30 PM
At the current time, you need to send in request for that flag to be on. It turns off after your character dies or store.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Veselka on February 15, 2023, 06:34:45 PM
Quote from: Barsook on February 15, 2023, 06:32:30 PM
At the current time, you need to send in request for that flag to be on. It turns off after your character dies or store.

Is that documented somewhere?

If not, it should be, or it should be somewhat automated (via chargen etc) maybe every time you make a new PC or something.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Barsook on February 15, 2023, 06:49:37 PM
It feels as it it was hinted rather than be official. I was only able to find this thread: https://gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,58020.msg1076667.html
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: WarriorPoet on February 15, 2023, 07:27:50 PM
I assumed using backgrounds was in-character lore and fair game....

Let this be my eternal consent for staff to use my BG to harass me and build the story.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Krath on February 15, 2023, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: WarriorPoet on February 15, 2023, 07:27:50 PM
I assumed using backgrounds was in-character lore and fair game....

Let this be my eternal consent for staff to use my BG to harass me and build the story.

Same here. I just sent in a request stating all my current and future pcs backgrounds are open to be used
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: dumbstruck on February 15, 2023, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: WarriorPoet on February 15, 2023, 07:27:50 PM
I assumed using backgrounds was in-character lore and fair game....

Let this be my eternal consent for staff to use my BG to harass me and build the story.

Legit this. Like. 100%. If I have it in my background, it's something that's happened to my pc or applicable to them in some way. Please do not pull punches if you're considering using something, even if it's something small and weird or obscure. I'm not looking for hella storylines. Sometimes something like 'You remember the last time your father sat down and taught you to whittle.' on a pc whose background talks about them learning woodworking from their father while they are working wood at 2 am can be devastatingly effective as a roleplay prompt.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: FantasyWriter on February 17, 2023, 10:28:31 AM
Quote from: WarriorPoet on February 15, 2023, 07:27:50 PM
I assumed using backgrounds was in-character lore and fair game....

Let this be my eternal consent for staff to use my BG to harass me and build the story.

I feel REALLY confused. It hasn't been "Free to use" ever or is this a recent change?
Why are the reasons people WOULDN'T want this to be a thing?
Why would you write something in your background and not want it to be part of your characters future?
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: Veselka on February 17, 2023, 12:21:11 PM
Maybe you have a family member that you don't want animated. I dunno. I'm hard pressed to find. Reason.

Maybe it should be "opt out" instead of "opt in". It's part of when you make an account or new PC, and you can choose to opt out at that time of your PC background being fair game to use by Staff.
Title: Re: Staff Using Character Backgrounds?
Post by: FantasyWriter on February 17, 2023, 01:26:40 PM
Quote from: Veselka on February 17, 2023, 12:21:11 PM
Maybe it should be "opt out" instead of "opt in".

Yes, please. I wonder how much fun stuff I have missed out on not knowing about this. :D