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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 19, 2016, 04:36:36 PM

Title: Glassworking
Post by: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 19, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
With a world with no metal and where half the place usually can't afford wood we have things like stone, bone and clay to see to our needs.

Where's the glass?

You can't make anything out of glass!

We need to make things out of glass!

I suggest (for crafting) three shotglasses per 'chunk of glass slag' and also the ability to make glass mugs and flagons, although I'm not sure what else should go there. Some jewelry for the lower classes would be nice. Like combine red dye with glass to make a red glass stone necklace or something.

What do you guys think about adding a glassworking skill to the game?
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: nauta on April 19, 2016, 04:41:32 PM
I'm 2 billion times for this.  I think all krathis should get the skill by default, hehe.

Also, if you haven't, you (the general you) might want to take a trip to Cenyr.  There are some neat buildings there that describe the glassworking process in their descriptions.

From 'help cenyr':
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The actual location of the village of Cenyr is a prized secret among merchants, though it is rumored to be located somewhere in the Red Desert. The village is primarily noted for the quality and artistry of the glassware it produces.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: Desertman on April 19, 2016, 04:41:47 PM
Talk to Cenyr.

I know of a PC that did this and actually gained the ability to work glass.

This is already possible in-game.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: seidhr on April 19, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
Glassworking is something that Cenyr is known for, they guard the secret to making it jealously.  At present, we are not interested in making it a coded skill for the masses.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: Jihelu on April 19, 2016, 04:57:50 PM
Get your undead army and siege Cenyr.
They either let the city states know where the city is or they listen to my demands.

Simple.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: Beethoven on April 19, 2016, 06:55:13 PM
It seems to me that in a world where there is (next to) no metal and sand is freaking everywhere, glassworking would be way more common.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: BadSkeelz on April 19, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
Apparently glass-making may have developed (at least in part) out of metal-smelting processes. If so, unless the technology was  preserved from the Old Empire or discovered independently, it might not be as common as you suppose.

Considering that we're drinking out of disposal glass flagons and shotglasses at several establishments, production is evidently high. But the technique for manufacturing raw glass is a closely guarded secret (i.e. Cenyr), as it possibly was historically.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 19, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: Beethoven on April 19, 2016, 06:55:13 PM
It seems to me that in a world where there is (next to) no metal and sand is freaking everywhere, glassworking would be way more common.

Blowing glass involves a massive kiln, it's a very delicate process and it complicated ass hell. If it did exist I imagine it would be only for certain noble houses and maybe Kurac. Common people would have a real problem gaining access to the fuel for the kiln, let alone the kiln itself.

Really fueling it is the major problem. You'd need a team of krathi's or a fuck-ton of wood.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: Riev on April 21, 2016, 05:17:52 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 19, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
Really fueling it is the major problem. You'd need a team of krathi's or a fuck-ton of wood.

I've heard the blood of your enemies makes for a particularly decent fuel source.
Title: Re: Glassworking
Post by: najdorf on April 22, 2016, 12:13:40 PM
Glass is not functional, you can't make weapons, armor, clothing, food, etc.
Only options are for fashion and art.
In order to use glassmaking like (art) stonecrafting, there should be added more glass raw materials, which is ok but not top priority in my opinion
In order to use glass like (fashion), it's already covered in jewelrymaking. There are a few jewelry in the game already but adding 5-10 to the list can be a good addition.