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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Synthesis on February 06, 2016, 01:20:35 PM

Title: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Synthesis on February 06, 2016, 01:20:35 PM
Eliminate the binary pass/fail for stealth skills and add a partial failure, where your character realizes they're about to fuck up, or that they wouldn't possibly be able to do that, and they just stop the attempt before failing gloriously in front of all watchers.

Add an observant-third-party generic echo like "you notice the tall, muscular man acting suspicious" (or whatever) so it's not a get-out-of-jail free card.
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 06, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
This is such a good idea I squeaked in excitement.
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Barsook on February 06, 2016, 01:26:45 PM
I dig this!
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Jihelu on February 06, 2016, 02:05:04 PM
pls add.
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: BadSkeelz on February 06, 2016, 02:15:48 PM
Seems reasonable. Would you still be subject to the after delay? I feel like you should, just to further reduce people spamming til success
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Gunnerblaster on February 07, 2016, 07:03:06 PM
I've always hated either pass or fail echoes - No inbetween.

I heartedly endorse this
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Jihelu on February 07, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
As far as I know though there is an echo where someone can tell they were stolen from.
But it doesn't give a sdesc.
Isn't that a partial fail?
Then again that isn't really a stealth skill cause you can steal without being sneaky but idk
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Inks on February 07, 2016, 08:42:40 PM
Quote from: Synthesis on February 06, 2016, 01:20:35 PM
Eliminate the binary pass/fail for stealth skills and add a partial failure, where your character realizes they're about to fuck up, or that they wouldn't possibly be able to do that, and they just stop the attempt before failing gloriously in front of all watchers.

Add an observant-third-party generic echo like "you notice the tall, muscular man acting suspicious" (or whatever) so it's not a get-out-of-jail free card.

Yes. Good.
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Synthesis on February 08, 2016, 02:17:48 AM
Quote from: Jihelu on February 07, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
As far as I know though there is an echo where someone can tell they were stolen from.
But it doesn't give a sdesc.
Isn't that a partial fail?
Then again that isn't really a stealth skill cause you can steal without being sneaky but idk

Steal and peek already have partial failures.

There should be a partial failure for sneak, hide, and sleight of hand.
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Rokal on February 10, 2016, 05:06:40 PM
As sneaky guilds are my favorite, I support this idea ++++++++++++1
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Kankfly on February 10, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: Synthesis on February 08, 2016, 02:17:48 AM
Quote from: Jihelu on February 07, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
As far as I know though there is an echo where someone can tell they were stolen from.
But it doesn't give a sdesc.
Isn't that a partial fail?
Then again that isn't really a stealth skill cause you can steal without being sneaky but idk

Steal and peek already have partial failures.

There should be a partial failure for sneak, hide, and sleight of hand.

There's partial failure for sleight of hand that can be noticed by a third party, just not sneak and hide.
Title: Re: Idea: Stealth Skill Partial Failures
Post by: Synthesis on February 10, 2016, 08:32:13 PM
Quote from: Kankfly on February 10, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: Synthesis on February 08, 2016, 02:17:48 AM
Quote from: Jihelu on February 07, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
As far as I know though there is an echo where someone can tell they were stolen from.
But it doesn't give a sdesc.
Isn't that a partial fail?
Then again that isn't really a stealth skill cause you can steal without being sneaky but idk

Steal and peek already have partial failures.

There should be a partial failure for sneak, hide, and sleight of hand.

There's partial failure for sleight of hand that can be noticed by a third party, just not sneak and hide.

Are you sure?  The only echo I've ever seen is "you notice he was trying to be stealthy about it," which is the result of a full failure...unless you're watching the person, but I'm not talking about fails vs. watch, I'm talking about fails vs. casual observers.