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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Molten Heart on March 11, 2014, 01:35:34 PM

Poll
Question: Which city is the best?
Option 1: Tuluk votes: 12
Option 2: Allanak votes: 41
Option 3: None of these (cities suck) votes: 9
Title: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Molten Heart on March 11, 2014, 01:35:34 PM
It's that time again.  Which city is the best and why?

I used to be a Tuluki fanboy but after years I've been converted over to a firm Southlands supporter.  What do you think?

This thread is just a friendly thread to have fun.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Cutthroat on March 11, 2014, 02:16:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2vDz7.png)
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 02:48:01 PM
SHOPPING IN ALLANAK:
(http://panzerleader.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/excerpts_20100716.jpg)

SHOPPING IN TULUK:
(http://seattletimes.com/ABPub/2012/11/05/2019611290.jpg)

SPORTS IN ALLANAK:
(http://mygirlfriendisadm.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/10-darksun11bywilliamoconnor.jpg?w=440&h=240&crop=1)

SPORTS IN TULUK:
(https://jessindeedy.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/richard.jpg?w=300&h=290)







Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Patuk on March 11, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Oh lawd.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: CodeMaster on March 11, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
(http://cdnpix.com/show/imgs/954712e9336d6c1316ce24d98db1abc9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 03:07:47 PM
I love Libertyspikes Oash the Templar in the background there in the shopping in Allanak pic, he's all COME AT ME BRO.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Narf on March 11, 2014, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 03:07:47 PM
I love Libertyspikes Oash the Templar in the background there in the shopping in Allanak pic, he's all COME AT ME BRO.

... to the all of no one that's actually paying him any attention.

Poser.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
All the cities suck, Cenyr is the town of 2014 who's with me!?
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 03:20:36 PM
MAL KRIAN ALL DAY EVERY DAY
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Barsook on March 11, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
All the cities suck, Cenyr is the town of 2014 who's with me!?
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: bcw81 on March 11, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
Fuck Cenyr.

Who wants this king of blow:
(http://www.astarwasborn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/glass-blowing.jpg)

When you can get:
(http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/crack-5.jpg)

And:
Explicit material (http://gofindyourownporno.nope)

at your local Luirs!
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 03:46:23 PM
Law Enforcement in Allanak:
(http://mygirlfriendisadm.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/10-darksun07bydaverapoza.jpg)

Law Enforcement in Tuluk: (Complete with horses and correct color theme.)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-StnX347C1ZU/TiY_28O1QOI/AAAAAAAALkY/Yox2UGgZsFk/s400/dudley-do-right.jpg)
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Cutthroat on March 11, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
I'm a fan of Steinal. You probably never heard of it - it's underground.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: Cutthroat on March 11, 2014, 03:51:17 PM
I'm a fan of Steinal. You probably never heard of it - it's underground.

(http://i.imgur.com/q5Ycmiq.gif)
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: manonfire on March 11, 2014, 03:54:45 PM
The different cities exist for different playstyles so shut uuuuuuuuuup.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Fujikoma on March 11, 2014, 04:01:02 PM
I must admit I have not seen a massive street-battle to the death over an overturned cart of apples in my time in Allanak, and part of me would like to but the other part is like "Oh no don't take my precious text~".
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Kismetic on March 11, 2014, 04:14:03 PM
The only reason people favor Allanak over Tuluk is because the latter has an outward hatred for magick, and those characters do not last long there.  The rest is window dressing.  I think people would enjoy both city states if they realized that Tuluk isn't all smiles and flowers and Allanak is, by documentation, not Spartacus:  Bare Sweaty Chests.  I think both have a lot of good cultural quirks, and both are filled with good players.

As to my own personal favorite ...  The desert.  Because, fuck cities, I dig the grit and harsh environment.

Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 03:46:23 PM
Law Enforcement in Allanak:
(http://mygirlfriendisadm.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/10-darksun07bydaverapoza.jpg)

Law Enforcement in Tuluk: (Complete with horses and correct color theme.)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-StnX347C1ZU/TiY_28O1QOI/AAAAAAAALkY/Yox2UGgZsFk/s400/dudley-do-right.jpg)

I dunno man, Mounties will FUCK YOU UP. They carry MP5s.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 04:35:38 PM
I favor Allanak simply because it has always felt more gritty, more dangerous, and more outwardly hardcore than Tuluk.

I understand Tuluk is more subtly "hardcore", I'm just saying I prefer the lack of subtly, most of the time.

(My pictures above are just for chuckles.)

Every now and then I get the urge and play in Tuluk myself. I can and have enjoyed both for what they are.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

I favor herp derp.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Qzzrbl on March 11, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
The only reason I favor Allanak is because 'Rinth.

Under Tuluk was pretty great while it lasted.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on March 11, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
The only reason I favor Allanak is because 'Rinth.

Yeah, this has a lot to do with my previously mentioned outward "gritty" and "hardcore" comments. The Rinth is just so unique in its setting and it bleeds over so well into "Allanak Proper" that it just adds so much "gritty" flavor in general to that whole area.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: ShaLeah on March 11, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

Allanak: Murder, Corruption, Betrayal
Tuluk: Bards, Hunters, Delusions


Poll results speak for themselves.  Tuluk isn't Armageddon, Tuluk is the result of prior not knowing how to create conflict.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 11, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

Allanak: Murder, Corruption, Betrayal
Tuluk: Bards, Hunters, Delusions


Poll results speak for themselves.  Tuluk isn't Armageddon, Tuluk is the result of prior not knowing how to create conflict.


It isn't fair to compare Tuluk to Allanak though.

Tuluk hasn't existed in its current incarnation for nearly as long as Allanak has. Tuluk in a lot of ways is still "building its self", both literally and "society" wise. I remember playing in Tuluk back when it was still basically a tavern and some scrub around said tavern with Allanaki soldiers patrolling the streets.

Staff is working on morphing a fair bit of the culture in that area right now as I understand it.

Allanak has had a much longer time to establish, implement, and solidify its current atmosphere.

I hate to use the word "better", because it makes buttdicktonbutthurt Tuluki patriots shiver with fury, but Allanak is "more favored" (not better) by the playerbase, likely due to this very fact.

Give Tuluk a few years to settle after some of the documentation revamps and updates and I'm sure these polls will be much more balanced.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Patuk on March 11, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
Though I could be persuade to believe in that sentiment, Tuluk has been in such a state for longer than I have been playing, or any of its PC's have even been alive.

In a similar vein, that kind of statement implies Allanak itself has taken a decade at least to become good, too. It might have, but I doubt it.

Regardless, I feel Tuluk is changing more because of its impopularity than because it is unfinished somehow. It in no way has less features than Allanak does.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

I favor herp derp.

How come that isn't an option?
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Fujikoma on March 11, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
I strongly, strongly prefer Allanak. However, Tuluk has its merits, it just doesn't appeal to the way I like to play.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:25:42 PM
Quote from: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

I favor herp derp.

How come that isn't an option?

It is....

It just reads as "Tuluk", it's the first one there on the list.

(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/867-big-grin.png)

Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: ShaLeah on March 11, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
Quote from: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 11, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

Allanak: Murder, Corruption, Betrayal
Tuluk: Bards, Hunters, Delusions


Poll results speak for themselves.  Tuluk isn't Armageddon, Tuluk is the result of prior not knowing how to create conflict.


It isn't fair to compare Tuluk to Allanak though.

Tuluk hasn't existed in its current incarnation for nearly as long as Allanak has. Tuluk in a lot of ways is still "building its self", both literally and "society" wise.

Staff is working on morphing a fair bit of the culture in that area right now as I understand it.

Allanak has had a much longer time to establish, implement, and solidify its current atmosphere.

Sure it is. They're the only two city states, the have the biggest population.

This thread isn't about what we can do to fix/change Tuluk though, it's about which one players prefer. Allanak is Armageddon, the Dragon and all the foes it crushes to keep its domain.  I prefer Allanak, so do lots of people on the GDB apparently!

Also, please see my signature.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:30:52 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 11, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
Quote from: Desertman on March 11, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 11, 2014, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: Jingo on March 11, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
I favor buttdickton because preconceived notions of gritty, dangerous, hardcoregasm and outdated myopic machismo.

Allanak: Murder, Corruption, Betrayal
Tuluk: Bards, Hunters, Delusions


Poll results speak for themselves.  Tuluk isn't Armageddon, Tuluk is the result of prior not knowing how to create conflict.


It isn't fair to compare Tuluk to Allanak though.

Tuluk hasn't existed in its current incarnation for nearly as long as Allanak has. Tuluk in a lot of ways is still "building its self", both literally and "society" wise.

Staff is working on morphing a fair bit of the culture in that area right now as I understand it.

Allanak has had a much longer time to establish, implement, and solidify its current atmosphere.

Sure it is. They're the only two city states, the have the biggest population.

This thread isn't about what we can do to fix/change Tuluk though, it's about which one players prefer. Allanak is Armageddon, the Dragon and all the foes it crushes to keep its domain.  I prefer Allanak, so do lots of people on the GDB apparently!

Also, please see my signature.

I edited my post since your quote btw.

Also, you are the Highlurd Tektrollness with this post. So much win.  ;D
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Zoan on March 11, 2014, 06:28:03 PM
Allanak's great and all, and nobody disputes that, but Muk would kick Tek's ass in a fight.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Cutthroat on March 11, 2014, 06:29:13 PM
I voted for Tuluk because there is no "both" option and because of how skewed the poll results are.

Also, because years and years of Allanak fans saying Tuluk is full of noobs, poor players, skillers, mudsexers, isn't harsh enough, doesn't fit into the gameworld, and should simply be destroyed... and yet the playerbase is distributed pretty evenly between north and south most of the time. Being loud doesn't necessarily mean being right, after all...

It's cool if you like Allanak because it caters more to your playstyle, though. That is understandable. It used to be the only city for me too. Then I tried Tuluk and decided I like both cities. And I don't really care that the aforementioned complaints about Tuluk end up here. I personally hope that this thread will serve as a containment area for that particular circle-jerk.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 11, 2014, 06:40:36 PM
I voted Tuluk even though it has changed a lot since I started playing. I miss the crater. I miss the halflings scaring everyone. I remember one time when a halfling actually came into the gates and tried to talk to people. Those were the days.

Currently, I'm getting more and more baffled at Tuluk, but I hate Allanak with a passion. So I'm willing to hold it out and see where all the changes lead.

I enjoy the culture of Tuluk, the art, the bond everyone has to everyone else. I hate the savagery of Allanak and having no culture and only hoping one day that Tek won't stomp on you as being the one main thing to live for.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Harmless on March 11, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
I think if your thing is constant action, then Allanak is probably better. However, constant action isn't always good. Sometimes it gets pretty irritating that everyone around you dies in a few days, or that people are constantly forming and reforming vendettas and starting shit. Sometimes I'm in the mood for it, other times I'm really not at all.

In general, when I have high playtimes, I love Allanak. I can keep up with the pace of the goings on and feel like I am having an impact.

In general, when I play combat roles, I prefer Allanak but this isn't always the case. I love my northern combatants too.

There are exceptions for me to the above. There are always exceptions when you've played as many PCs as I have. But if I try to analyze how or why I feel this or that way, that's my best guess when only spending 2 minutes making a post about it.

I didn't vote in the poll. I have played equal characters in neither city, one, or the other. I have great memories from all locales. It'd be silly for me to plink my vote in Tuluk just because I do happen to like it sometimes, because that's not accurate.

If the poll results look horribly uneven, then I think that's just accurate to the GDB population, though, as Cutthroat said. Sadly, one might extrapolate that there are more newbies in Tuluk, which might be true but I don't think so. I just think that Tuluk fans are subtle about it. Like me.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Molten Heart on March 11, 2014, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 11, 2014, 06:40:36 PM
I voted Tuluk even though it has changed a lot since I started playing. I miss the crater. I miss the halflings scaring everyone. I remember one time when a halfling actually came into the gates and tried to talk to people. Those were the days.

Currently, I'm getting more and more baffled at Tuluk, but I hate Allanak with a passion. So I'm willing to hold it out and see where all the changes lead.

I enjoy the culture of Tuluk, the art, the bond everyone has to everyone else. I hate the savagery of Allanak and having no culture and only hoping one day that Tek won't stomp on you as being the one main thing to live for.

If neither Tuluk or Allanak are your thing, there is always......


Luir's Outpost
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5JA3in7oprg/TGXM8YcWjQI/AAAAAAAABQA/mSi6ittZQEs/s1600/BCJr.jpg)
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Kismetic on March 11, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
Luir's and Kurac are probably my all time favorites.  Someone should make a Kuraci that looks like Bruce Campbell.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 11, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
Luir's is almost a boring as Red Storm. I like people to interact with but not always in the mood of constant action. Maybe that's why I like Tuluk as well as the culture and the history and the fact the fear isn't what bonds people together.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: boog on March 11, 2014, 08:03:22 PM
Luir's is rarely boring.

But it's also what you make of it, I reckon.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on March 11, 2014, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 11, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
Luir's is almost a boring as Red Storm. I like people to interact with but not always in the mood of constant action. Maybe that's why I like Tuluk as well as the culture and the history and the fact the fear isn't what bonds people together.

Even if people have been scared into believing the big magicker in the sky is looking out for every one of them, even the little half-elf street urchins, isn't it still fear that's bonding everyone together at the most base level? Ultimately, the guys with the most power to magickally kill, maim, and blow stuff up have authority in both cities. This is not a coincidence.
Title: Re: The Tuluk vs. Allanak Thread (get your rivalry on!).
Post by: Eurynomos on March 11, 2014, 08:17:36 PM
There's been about a million of these threads, and they still don't accomplish much.

Some people prefer Allanak.

Some people prefer Tuluk.

yay.