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Title: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:01:51 PM
ROAR! is Armageddon down right now? I cant log on and i'm sad.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 22, 2014, 05:24:12 PM
No, it's up.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
ah, using ubuntu, closed my gnome mud client, reopened it, connected just fine... sometimes you can trust the internet but not your software
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Malken on January 22, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
ah, using ubuntu, closed my gnome mud client, reopened it, connected just fine... sometimes you can trust the internet but not your software

Well, it -was- down, like, 15 minutes ago..
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 22, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
Quote from: Malken on January 22, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
ah, using ubuntu, closed my gnome mud client, reopened it, connected just fine... sometimes you can trust the internet but not your software

Well, it -was- down, like, 15 minutes ago..

Might be you're having the lag issues some people are having, where they get disconnected. Been logged in with no problems on my side the past hour.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Malken on January 22, 2014, 05:36:52 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on January 22, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
Quote from: Malken on January 22, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
ah, using ubuntu, closed my gnome mud client, reopened it, connected just fine... sometimes you can trust the internet but not your software

Well, it -was- down, like, 15 minutes ago..

Might be you're having the lag issues some people are having, where they get disconnected. Been logged in with no problems on my side the past hour.

So you play an extended subguild with awesome stats AND you also get to play when most of us can't?!
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 22, 2014, 05:41:27 PM
Quote from: Malken on January 22, 2014, 05:36:52 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on January 22, 2014, 05:34:39 PM
Quote from: Malken on January 22, 2014, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
ah, using ubuntu, closed my gnome mud client, reopened it, connected just fine... sometimes you can trust the internet but not your software

Well, it -was- down, like, 15 minutes ago..

Might be you're having the lag issues some people are having, where they get disconnected. Been logged in with no problems on my side the past hour.

So you play an extended subguild with awesome stats AND you also get to play when most of us can't?!

It makes up for how much I suck in real life.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on January 22, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
Quote from: Nehoc on January 22, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
ah, using ubuntu, closed my gnome mud client, reopened it, connected just fine... sometimes you can trust the internet but not your software

Should try Mudlet, I've never had a problem with it failing to connect as long as internet and server were both up.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nehoc on January 23, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
Thanks for the tip moon tiger.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on January 23, 2014, 05:34:30 PM
I hit a connection issue on Mudlet.  But I think tiger's question might hold true.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on January 23, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Barsook,

There's a connection issue in general right now there's nothing wrong with Mudlet. The web client isn't even connecting.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on January 23, 2014, 05:38:47 PM
Heck telnet doesn't work either.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nathvaan on January 23, 2014, 06:00:58 PM
It should but up any moment now.  Sorry for the inconvienence, we will look into the reason for the crash.

Thanks!

Nathvaan
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Ourla on January 23, 2014, 10:54:05 PM
Quote from: Nathvaan on January 23, 2014, 06:00:58 PM
It should but up any moment now.  Sorry for the inconvienence, we will look into the reason for the crash.

Well.  If that's all it takes...  ;D
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on January 24, 2014, 07:10:29 PM
Hmm...I seem to be having the same problem that I had after the last crash, where I get 'security error' on the website's client, but can use a client of my own just fine.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Morrolan on January 25, 2014, 04:23:36 AM
Crunch? Edit to add: Nope.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Wish on January 26, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
oh my gawd
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Fujikoma on January 26, 2014, 04:55:12 PM
Ok, there is no way I'm letting myself believe it was my fault this time.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Patuk on January 26, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
Game did crash, but it's back already
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 04, 2014, 04:24:19 PM
Crash?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: BleakOne on February 04, 2014, 04:25:11 PM
I think so.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 04, 2014, 07:24:46 PM
WTF? Again?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Harmless on February 04, 2014, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: Barsook on February 04, 2014, 07:24:46 PM
WTF? Again?

and it's back up right away, too. at least it restarts, but it is currently dangerous to drop things on the ground.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 04, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
And it's dangerous to go hunting.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: LittleLady on February 05, 2014, 03:41:53 PM
Is it down again, or just me?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Ourla on February 05, 2014, 03:44:18 PM
I can't get on, either.  >:(

AND IT'S MY DAY OFF.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Irulan on February 05, 2014, 03:51:23 PM
Yeah, I got kicked off, and now can't get back in at all. :(
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Voular on February 05, 2014, 03:51:30 PM
I am on just fine? >_>
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Fujikoma on February 05, 2014, 03:52:44 PM
I got kicked probably about ten minutes ago, not working for me.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Lizzie on February 05, 2014, 03:56:17 PM
Hey Nyr how about some stats:

How many crashes/lags/server issues/router issues have made logging in/staying logged in/not going linkdead difficult for most players prior to your return from vacation..

vs.

the same data following your return from vacation.

I'm thinking it's your fault. You and that damned hangnail you have on your pinky.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 08, 2014, 07:32:58 PM
Motherfucker this is annoying. Sometimes it just lags real hard for a spurt. Other times it's full disconnect. Happening probably two-three times a day.


Strangely enough the game seems to be saving a bit before these crashes.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: rodic on February 08, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on February 08, 2014, 07:32:58 PM
Motherfucker this is annoying. Sometimes it just lags real hard for a spurt. Other times it's full disconnect. Happening probably two-three times a day.
I think I know what you mean, I got disconnected mid battle, and when I reconnected I was back where I started... weird.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 08, 2014, 07:45:55 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on February 08, 2014, 07:32:58 PM
Strangely enough the game seems to be saving a bit before these crashes.

At least it knows that it will crash.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Zoan on February 09, 2014, 03:34:39 PM
Ginka KNOWS.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: solera on February 10, 2014, 04:56:44 AM
I wonder
Why do bags I put in my locker after the  one that goes missing, not go missing?
Whether I should ask for resized items to be re-resized?
Can I junk duplicate sids? I seem to remember having trouble there, or was that just single one coin.
On a crashy day, is it better to a) hunt carru  b) dress up c) tidy up?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Harmless on February 10, 2014, 08:38:26 AM


We're down for our maintenance period, and should have the game back up
in -approximately- 20 to 30 minutes (from when it went down).

If you want to find out what changes were made this week, you may view
them by visiting http://www.armageddon.org/general/updates/view.php.

You can also visit our discussion board at http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb
and our web page at http://www.armageddon.org.

- Armageddon Staff



:3
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Harmless on February 10, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
So, an hour and a half after the above, the game crashes again.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 10, 2014, 02:25:28 PM
Crashed again.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: FantasyWriter on February 14, 2014, 07:41:08 PM
Anyone else having problems with lagging out?
My connecting with be laggy for a few minutes, then die without disconnecting.
I can disconnect and reconnect and it works fine for another 5-30 mins. :(
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 14, 2014, 07:43:31 PM
Le sigh, I'm finding no reason to play for a while since this issue.  And yes, I'm lagging a lot when I play.  But your issue, I don't know, haven;t logged on.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Lizzie on February 15, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
 Armageddon last booted 2 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes and 47 seconds ago.

The game hasn't been down. It hasn't crashed, and their server isn't timing out.

Just some folks are having a lot of trouble with the pipeline leading from their computer to the server. Keep in mind that several cities and towns across the eastern half of the country have no power, so you might find your connection re-routed to Siberia or something.

Our area got hit with the storm but with very few power outages. I'm having no trouble connecting at all, and only a few nano-second's worth of lag every 30 minutes or so.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 15, 2014, 07:46:28 AM
Quote from: Lizzie on February 15, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
Armageddon last booted 2 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes and 47 seconds ago.

The game hasn't been down. It hasn't crashed, and their server isn't timing out.

Just some folks are having a lot of trouble with the pipeline leading from their computer to the server. Keep in mind that several cities and towns across the eastern half of the country have no power, so you might find your connection re-routed to Siberia or something.

Our area got hit with the storm but with very few power outages. I'm having no trouble connecting at all, and only a few nano-second's worth of lag every 30 minutes or so.


I seemed to get lucky the last time this happened and had no problems, similar to you, but not this time. It's also something that seems to have been going on for months, or at the very least a problem which keeps re-occurring. I can't be the only one who's noticed that?

If there are really some "problem" servers that are between Ginka and the players, maybe it's time Ginka found a whole new server that side-steps those bad servers(if that's even possible). I'm not having these sort of issues with any other games. And this seems to be a problem that happens multiple times throughout the year.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 15, 2014, 08:05:38 AM
Keep in mind that Ginka is a virtual server.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 15, 2014, 02:13:41 PM
I just wanted to chime in on this here. I don't think anyone can rightly claim that this is a server problem. Many things could be causing crashes: bugs on the game, bugs on the server, the virtual server, the main server that the virtual server is housed on, hardware, etc. Without being able to look at all the logs starting at the game level the ability to determine this is just guess work. If I were troubleshooting the crashes I would start with the logs. See exactly what was happening and what got reported at the time of the crash.

The second issue of lag could be two-fold. If everyone experiences the lag at the same time then I would go back to the above troubleshooting and also look at the hosting provider and their internet. If just a few people are experiencing it then its pretty close to certain that its internet related. I'm not saying it has to do with the individual(s) experiencing the problem or their provider, the issue could be further up the line. Remember traffic on the internet usually passes through at minimum of two or three different providers on its way to the destination. Pings, tracesroutes, and a handy program called MTR (My Trace Route) are all extremely useful for the individual(s) experiencing these problems. I would recommend looking at those programs to see what results you get.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: solera on February 16, 2014, 02:56:40 AM
Quote from: Lizzie on February 15, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
Armageddon last booted 2 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes and 47 seconds ago.
quote]


I've lost this information again. Please direct me. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: solera on February 16, 2014, 02:59:41 AM
Quote from: solera on February 16, 2014, 02:56:40 AM
Quote from: Lizzie on February 15, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
Armageddon last booted 2 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes and 47 seconds ago.
quote]



I've lost this information again. Please direct me. Thanks. :)

edt  And I'm having trouble with my quotes.  Sorry
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Barsook on February 16, 2014, 07:40:30 AM
I think it's from the old homepage.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: TheWanderer on February 17, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
Anyone else?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 18, 2014, 12:46:30 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like anytime anything new is added or maintenance is done we have crashes?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Fujikoma on February 18, 2014, 01:23:07 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on February 18, 2014, 12:46:30 AM
Is it just me or does it seem like anytime anything new is added or maintenance is done we have crashes?
As likely as that may seem, I had to go without playing for a while because it was thought I was crashing the mud...

Or they wanted a pause from watching me get into some exceedingly nasty mudsex. but they've had much better reasons to cut me off since... Mostly due to more disturbing mudsex.

I'm not done yet, though, I'd crash the mud at random if I was playing, too. This is all to be read in a joking manner, and to be taken as an assurance that the crashes are due to something other than my OOC consent requests.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nyr on February 18, 2014, 10:26:52 AM
We've been investigating this for a while.  Yes, sometimes we have been crashing; for those of you aching for some real old school Armageddon nostalgia, this probably takes you back!  :)

We hope to get to the bottom of it soon.  Top men are working on it.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 18, 2014, 10:47:57 AM
I forgot how bad it was back in the day. I was generally just happy to find an open computer at my college's lab where I could log in and play. Thank you for the update Nyr.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Wish on February 18, 2014, 11:43:01 PM
So I'm having trouble accessing the website when I type armageddon.org into my browser bar, but www.armageddon.org sometimes works ok (but sometimes I can't access the website at all!)  Also, I can't connect to the mud using armageddon.org, but ginka.armageddon.org and the IP works fine.  This is the case across multiple browsers and computers and mobile devices.

DNS issue maybe?  Anybody else noticing this?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 18, 2014, 11:55:03 PM
Yes. Shits all fuckery, to put it scientifically.

GDB was just down for me.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: boog on February 19, 2014, 12:13:57 AM
Yes, Wish.

I keep getting weird errors when trying to connect sometimes.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Sephiroto on February 19, 2014, 12:26:00 PM
I couldn't access Arm or the GDB last night.  I was sad.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: thatkid on February 20, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
Did anyone just get disconnected or should I call up comcast to yell at some poor phone rep because their service can't even handle a text-based game while someone else is watching netflix?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on February 20, 2014, 06:09:22 PM
Nope, that was everyone.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Wish on February 20, 2014, 09:20:32 PM
....SIGH
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 20, 2014, 09:21:14 PM
*heavy sigh*
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Wish on February 20, 2014, 09:26:23 PM
It's always just when I put something down -- I need to stop putting stuff down!
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nyr on March 04, 2014, 10:01:12 AM
QuoteSystem statistics:
------------------
System was started on : Sun Feb 23 15:35:36 2014.
Current system time is: Tue Mar  4 10:01:01 2014.
Uptime: 8 days, 18:25:25

awww yisss
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Fujikoma on March 04, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 04, 2014, 10:01:12 AM
QuoteSystem statistics:
------------------
System was started on : Sun Feb 23 15:35:36 2014.
Current system time is: Tue Mar  4 10:01:01 2014.
Uptime: 8 days, 18:25:25

awww yisss

Noooooo... How do I sell my things now?!
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 04, 2014, 12:20:38 PM
Does that mean your ironed out the issue, or that it eventually fixed itself?


My personal internet has been SO SHITTY. I dream of a day it gets fixed.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Nyr on March 04, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Tiernan found an issue and (knock on wood) it seems to be the one.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: bcw81 on March 04, 2014, 02:29:39 PM
Quote from: Nyr on March 04, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Tiernan found an issue and (knock on wood) it seems to be the one.
Tiernan for president.
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: whitt on March 06, 2014, 09:18:47 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on March 04, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
Noooooo... How do I sell my things now?!

So, odd question, but has this also "fixed the problem" with Indies being able to sell too much stuff to merchants?  And are we at a point where the NPC merchants are buying at the rate they should be expected to?  Or will the lack of crashes mean a fix is needed for NPC merchant inventory refreshes?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Fujikoma on March 06, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: whitt on March 06, 2014, 09:18:47 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on March 04, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
Noooooo... How do I sell my things now?!

So, odd question, but has this also "fixed the problem" with Indies being able to sell too much stuff to merchants?  And are we at a point where the NPC merchants are buying at the rate they should be expected to?  Or will the lack of crashes mean a fix is needed for NPC merchant inventory refreshes?

It would appear the crash problem and the indie problem were fixed in one fell swoop. :P
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 14, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
So umm that's like 4 crashes in like a ten minute span. Is there something going on?
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: boog on March 15, 2014, 02:20:33 AM
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Inks on March 15, 2014, 02:21:58 AM
Glad it wasn't just me. Dangerous..
Title: Re: GeddonDown?
Post by: Bushranger on March 15, 2014, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 14, 2014, 07:33:45 PM
So umm that's like 4 crashes in like a ten minute span. Is there something going on?

Elder Scrolls Online beta weekend. I think Nyr is just trying to download the client.