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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Titania on May 01, 2012, 10:38:55 PM

Title: Aging.
Post by: Titania on May 01, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
Is it common to lose stats for two or three consecutive bday years without gaining any wisdom at least?

If so getting old sucks more than I thought.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: maxid on May 01, 2012, 10:42:50 PM
I'm not sure, it's possible that you got some unlucky rolls, or it might be designed that way, or you could be in a weird age stretch where you've lost stats without hitting wisdom bumps, or you could be getting bumps within the category that you're in (average, good, etc.)  The way the code handles it is left vague on purpose, so I doubt you'll get a solid answer.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: BleakOne on May 01, 2012, 10:48:08 PM
You might be getting wisdom bumps, as well, just not enough the change the words it uses to describe your wisdom (good, very good, ect).
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Is Friday on May 01, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
Just as long as boobs don't sag, it shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Akaramu on May 02, 2012, 04:38:41 AM
Not a clue, but staff can probably look into the matter for you if you open a request.  :)
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Tuannon on May 02, 2012, 04:47:55 AM
In my experience, what you lose in physical abilities, you do not gain in wisdom.

Obviously I don't know the exact numbers, but yeah.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Barsook on May 02, 2012, 05:43:44 AM
QuoteWisdom nearly peaks early in life and increases slowly until death.

That supports this:

Quote from: BleakOne on May 01, 2012, 10:48:08 PM
You might be getting wisdom bumps, as well, just not enough the change the words it uses to describe your wisdom (good, very good, ect).

Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 02, 2012, 05:51:07 AM
Also you're getting Strength bumps you're probably not noticing.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Barsook on May 02, 2012, 05:57:50 AM
But it will decrease after a certain age.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: brytta.leofa on May 02, 2012, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Tuannon on May 02, 2012, 04:47:55 AM
In my experience, what you lose in physical abilities, you do not gain in wisdom.

And the most obvious benefit of wisdom (learning quicker) isn't going to help after you've reached your skill caps or effective training limits.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Karieith on May 02, 2012, 08:33:27 AM
/\/\/\/\

That and you become a MILF or DILF.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: solera on May 02, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
QuoteIs it common to lose stats for two or three consecutive bday years without gaining any wisdom at least?

Yes.

QuoteIf so getting old sucks more than I thought.

Yes.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Twilight on May 03, 2012, 06:47:48 PM
If you are talking about the downhill side, lets say middle age and getting older, no, you won't gain as much as you loose.  Which makes sense.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Kronibas on May 03, 2012, 08:38:23 PM
Ask Radoon Kadius about what happens to maxed warriors when their stats plummet due to age...
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Titania on May 04, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
Ok, Radoon Kadius, what happens to maxed warriors when their stats plummet due to age.?


..
I just thought it was a random chance they would start going lower but it just seemed like they are doing it every birthday.
Also I thought based on the average lifespan charts it would be slower. At this rate would be decrepit by the "average lifespan" which seems a bit high across the board. Who is living LONGER than the "average lifespan"?
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 04, 2012, 12:46:46 AM
Aging code is fine.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: maxid on May 04, 2012, 05:44:13 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on May 04, 2012, 12:46:46 AM
Aging code is fine.

Nobody said it wasn't, but great post.   8)
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: musashi on May 04, 2012, 05:58:33 AM
My current PC has had about 7-8 IC birthdays now but I have not noticed any stat change. Maybe mileage varies.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Nyr on May 04, 2012, 08:40:34 AM
Quote from: Titania on May 04, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
I just thought it was a random chance they would start going lower but it just seemed like they are doing it every birthday.

Confirmation bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias), more than likely.

Quote
Also I thought based on the average lifespan charts it would be slower. At this rate would be decrepit by the "average lifespan" which seems a bit high across the board. Who is living LONGER than the "average lifespan"?

(http://i.imgur.com/ea3eM.jpg)
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: brytta.leofa on May 04, 2012, 10:16:36 AM
In the United States, average lifespan is like 78 years old.  Decrepit at 78, when we're talking about combat fitness, sounds about right.

...But I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: solera on May 06, 2012, 03:30:31 PM
Dammit , i work with 78 year olds that can stride up hills and heave 10 kg buckets all day.  And they don't even spar 9days a week!

sorry yes stats do go down i just can't face it yet
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Dalmeth on May 06, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nyr on May 04, 2012, 08:40:34 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ea3eM.jpg)

I can attest how irritating it got to play an aging ranger with steadily declining strength.  In a military clan, no less.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: drunkendwarf on May 07, 2012, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: Titania on May 01, 2012, 10:38:55 PM
Is it common to lose stats for two or three consecutive bday years without gaining any wisdom at least?

If so getting old sucks more than I thought.

I've had this exact situation. Had a character where all the physical stats eventually started to degrade with every single birthday and, over the course of many birthdays, wisdom wasn't visibly increased. I submitted a couple requests for staff to look at it and was told things were functioning as they should be.

...and yes, aging sucks serious ass. Your character will whither away in front of you.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: titansfan on May 07, 2012, 04:49:14 PM
Age creates prostitues in Arm! Hooray for MudSex!
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Ender on May 08, 2012, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: Titania on May 04, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
Ok, Radoon Kadius, what happens to maxed warriors when their stats plummet due to age.?


..
I just thought it was a random chance they would start going lower but it just seemed like they are doing it every birthday.
Also I thought based on the average lifespan charts it would be slower. At this rate would be decrepit by the "average lifespan" which seems a bit high across the board. Who is living LONGER than the "average lifespan"?


This was changed circa 2008.  There was a long standing bug where you had a super slim chance to have your stats affected by Age, which Morgenes fixed.  You can probably blame me and one other PC for eliciting this change as I helped Morgenes play test it.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: solera on May 08, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
I would like to see the stats of the ancient Jihaen that wore 'horror boots.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Yam on May 08, 2012, 05:08:14 PM
Templar stats actually improve with age. The nobility are like wine.
Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: Jestor on May 19, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
QuoteOk, Radoon Kadius, what happens to maxed warriors when their stats plummet due to age.?

Way back then the aging code was a little different but having played that character to the ripe old age of 93, if I remember right... I can say for sure.. your physical stats change and get -much- lower! =)  But that didn't mean the old fart couldn't whoop some ass! heh

Title: Re: Aging.
Post by: MeTekillot on May 21, 2012, 10:03:10 PM
Go watch Assassin's Creed: Embers.

that's basically what happens to maxxed out warriors who get old