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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: ianmartin on December 17, 2011, 05:56:08 PM

Title: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: ianmartin on December 17, 2011, 05:56:08 PM
Is it considered incorrect to create a character BUT utilize real world words in the descriptions?   For example, what if I wanted an Elf with features similar to an Asian person and described them as such.?
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: MeTekillot on December 17, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
I think saying 'They have asian looking eyes/nose/features' would be inappropriate, yes.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Calavera on December 17, 2011, 05:59:18 PM
Yeah, I think where it becomes inappropriate is when you start using real-world ethnic descriptors.

If you'd like to describe someone with Asiatic features, or any other ethnic group, I don't see a problem with it. Your PC can look however you wish provided the guidelines are followed, but it's easy to describe what facial features look like without falling back on real-world racial descriptors.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Marauder Moe on December 17, 2011, 06:06:31 PM
It depends on the descriptor.

"Asian" is probably not allowed, though I'm pretty sure I've seen "spartan" and "roman".
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: CravenMadness on December 17, 2011, 06:14:46 PM
It was mentioned that I couldn't have a 'cauliflower-ear' ... because Zalanthalas doesn't have cauliflower.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: MeTekillot on December 17, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
but i've seen people with caramel skin and chocolate hair...
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: ShaLeah on December 17, 2011, 06:28:25 PM
One can describe ethnic features in more lyrical prose. Your asian can have heavy lidded, slanted eyes and skin that is light amber. Coupled with lifeless, blue black hair. Your nordic God is of course blonde and chiseled with blue eyes and maybe reddish stubble, your black person's skin can range from dark toffee to espresso, their lips can be described, their nose, their kinky hair. When I read a description I want a vision, a detailed vision of what I'm looking at. Go the extra, descriptive mile. :)
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: ShaLeah on December 17, 2011, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: MeTekillot on December 17, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
but i've seen people with caramel skin and chocolate hair...

Those are colors, not really ethnic descriptors.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Calavera on December 17, 2011, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: MeTekillot on December 17, 2011, 06:16:33 PM
but i've seen people with caramel skin and chocolate hair...

Clearly someone hasn't been to the food court by the gypsy waterslides if they think Zalanthas doesn't have caramel and ice cream sundaes.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Delirium on December 17, 2011, 07:02:13 PM
I was dead serious about to make that joke. Dammit.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Booya on December 18, 2011, 06:57:44 AM
I'm a quarter hoping, and half anxious that something like this will happen:

The Bustling Meeting Place. (NSW)
It's steamy and bustling in here. Smells nice, too.


The lean, coffee-hued man is sitting at a table near the window.
The sweet-faced, cocoa-haired woman is sitting at a table near the window.
The chubby, caramel-skinned man is sitting at a table near the window.
The milky-eyed youth is sitting at a thin, alabaster bar.
The creamy-complexioned man is crafting here.
The wiry, expresso-haired soldier stands by the bar, off-duty.
The urbane, mocha-skinned woman sits at a low table, sipping from a cup.
The dark, chocolate-eyed soldier watches the room suspiciously from the doorway.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Malifaxis on December 20, 2011, 11:57:02 AM
Quote from: Booya on December 18, 2011, 06:57:44 AM
I'm a quarter hoping, and half anxious that something like this will happen:

The Bustling Meeting Place. (NSW)
It's steamy and bustling in here. Smells nice, too.


The lean, coffee-hued man is sitting at a table near the window.
The sweet-faced, cocoa-haired woman is sitting at a table near the window.
The chubby, caramel-skinned man is sitting at a table near the window.
The milky-eyed youth is sitting at a thin, alabaster bar.
The creamy-complexioned man is crafting here.
The wiry, expresso-haired soldier stands by the bar, off-duty.
The urbane, mocha-skinned woman sits at a low table, sipping from a cup.
The dark, chocolate-eyed soldier watches the room suspiciously from the doorway.


(http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Starbuck-And-Starbucks.jpeg)
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Desertman on December 20, 2011, 12:08:41 PM
I want to play...

The white-trash, mullet-haired man
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Celest on December 22, 2011, 06:27:40 AM
I saw the thread title and thought this would be about nyan cat :(

As for the thread itself, my rule of thumb is that if there's not a good descriptor in Zalanthas, RL uses are okay. Finding a word for "dark brown" that isn't dark brown and uses Zalanthan colors is surprisingly hard, since most RL shades of brown are after foods (chocolate, mahogany, mocha, coffee, cocoa etc.) or refer to colors with red in them. Zalanthan ones are purple/greenish, largely.

Asian is not okay, because there are plenty of good descriptors for the features mentioned without going to real life examples.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Desertman on December 22, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
The down-syndrome midget....
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Tuannon on March 14, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Marauder Moe on December 17, 2011, 06:06:31 PM
It depends on the descriptor.

"Asian" is probably not allowed, though I'm pretty sure I've seen "spartan" and "roman".

Having been a 'spartan' person, it also means 'Not fancy'..
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: timb on March 15, 2012, 12:01:15 AM
Quote from: Desertman on December 22, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
The down-syndrome midget....
the thalidomide syndrome, extra-chromosome youth
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Kieandatu on March 15, 2012, 12:23:19 AM
Quote from: timb on March 15, 2012, 12:01:15 AM
Quote from: Desertman on December 22, 2011, 10:27:07 AM
The down-syndrome midget....
the thalidomide syndrome, extra-chromosome youth


The wide-faced....

Uh.

=)
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: A Large Bag on March 15, 2012, 11:42:47 PM
I thought about "the drooling, cross-eyed waterhead" but I'd be afraid people would kill him for the water if we ran out in the desert.

I know, that is so not pc. Sorry if anyone was offended.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Kevo on March 18, 2012, 03:06:49 AM
wow.

put foot bag
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Ghaati111 on March 18, 2012, 08:28:36 AM
Quote from: Tuannon on March 14, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Marauder Moe on December 17, 2011, 06:06:31 PM
It depends on the descriptor.

"Asian" is probably not allowed, though I'm pretty sure I've seen "spartan" and "roman".

Having been a 'spartan' person, it also means 'Not fancy'..

It means "not fancy" as a direct result of its etymology, which is to describe a "not fancy" people from a particular classic Greek city called Sparta. Laconic is another word with its meaning tied directly to the area around Sparta - the location was called Lakon. From an online Etymology dictionary http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=laconic :

Quotelaconic (adj.) Look up laconic at Dictionary.com
    "concise, abrupt," 1580s, probably via L. Laconicus, from Gk. Lakonikos, from Lakon "person from Lakonia," the district around Sparta in southern Greece in ancient times, whose inhabitants were famously proud of their brevity of speech. When Philip of Macedon threatened them with, "If I enter Laconia, I will raze Sparta to the ground," the Spartans' reply was, "If." An earlier form was laconical (1570s). Related: Laconically.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Maso on March 18, 2012, 01:54:33 PM
I think spartan is good. It has evolved pretty far from referring directly to a race, and does not always refer to the actual physical attributes of a person. You can have a spartan room...and that doesn't mean it has furnishings crafted by Spartan labourers. It's really not the same thing as using 'Asian'.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Tuannon on March 20, 2012, 07:20:39 AM
My apologies in advance, but asian has a LOT of implications for me when we're talking about architrecture and so on.

Having Wats in the jungle around Treehuggerville would be awesome for example.

If we're talking about describing people, I'd say most people with epicanthic folds would look stereotypically asian.

But I don't know the evolutionary whys or what fors about the development of that particular characteristic, so I couldn't even begin to ponder a Zalanthean equivalent without making a hash of it.
Title: Re: Real World descriptions for Arm Avatars
Post by: Ender on March 20, 2012, 01:21:48 PM
Quote from: Malifaxis on December 20, 2011, 11:57:02 AM
(http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Starbuck-And-Starbucks.jpeg)

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