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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: sprucebark on September 15, 2011, 01:03:15 AM

Title: Herds of animals?
Post by: sprucebark on September 15, 2011, 01:03:15 AM
Would it be possible to try out some herds of animals? I was thinking today of possible herd mobs similar to units of soldiers.
For example, if you rode closer to a herd of duskhorn they would flee as a group, but perhaps one breaks off, spawning the lost little duskhorn to be hunted.
Attacking the herd as a whole should just be impossible and they should also stop spawning new duskhorn after a few break off.

This would mean you no longer need to load four or five tandu all clustered together, someone would have to actually ride after the moving herd which sounds overall more dangerous.

Codedly possible? I say yes. Perfectly planned? Not so much, but what say you?
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: askaran on September 15, 2011, 01:37:53 AM
That sounds pretty cool actually. Wonder if it's possible.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 15, 2011, 01:40:46 AM
I've seen stuff likened to herds in an area of the game that's been specifically tweaked to have cool npc stuff going on. But yeah I like your idea of units that can have some units split off.

Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Clavis on September 15, 2011, 02:08:06 AM
this would be beast.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Gunnerblaster on September 15, 2011, 03:49:26 AM
A small herd of tregil are here, grazing amongst the scrub.

>kill tregil

A small herd of tregil deftly dodges your chop.

A small herd of tregil hits you viciously on the head.
You reel from the blow.

Your vision goes black.

...

Welcome to Armageddon!


Careful what you wish for... Coders might get lazy and just slap on a new sdesc to an NPC unit. Lol.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Nyr on September 15, 2011, 03:19:33 PM
A system for something like this has been proposed for Reborn, and once we're at that point, I bet it will be discussed on the blog in great detail! :)
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Incognito on September 15, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
If collectives for beasts is something being contemplated, I would also like to suggest "formations" for groups of PCs and NPCs.

Examples:
The red dwarf starts following you.
The green elf starts following you.
The blue half-giant starts following you.
The black mul starts following you.

Formation Arrow <leader> <left flank> <right flank>
Leader gets hit and has a chance of getting hit with higher damage by the opponent(s).
Flanks have a chance of inflicting higher damage.

or

Formation Phalanx <leader> <left> <right>
Leader, Left and Right PCs act as barriers and get a bonus to defence (maybe even get the blows distributed through them based on percentages - 60% leader, 20% left, 20% right).
Rest of the PCs in the group can attack the opponent(s), but with a small penalty to their damage score.

After all, Arm is evolving, the beasts are evolving into collective units, so why shouldn't the PCs also use their brains and tactics, to develop suitable battle formations?
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Nyr on September 15, 2011, 04:15:17 PM
We do have a lot of ideas from which to pull on the Reborn forum if we go down that route.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Clavis on September 16, 2011, 02:04:01 AM
Quote from: Incognito on September 15, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
If collectives for beasts is something being contemplated, I would also like to suggest "formations" for groups of PCs and NPCs.

Examples:
The red dwarf starts following you.
The green elf starts following you.
The blue half-giant starts following you.
The black mul starts following you.

Formation Arrow <leader> <left flank> <right flank>
Leader gets hit and has a chance of getting hit with higher damage by the opponent(s).
Flanks have a chance of inflicting higher damage.

or

Formation Phalanx <leader> <left> <right>
Leader, Left and Right PCs act as barriers and get a bonus to defence (maybe even get the blows distributed through them based on percentages - 60% leader, 20% left, 20% right).
Rest of the PCs in the group can attack the opponent(s), but with a small penalty to their damage score.

After all, Arm is evolving, the beasts are evolving into collective units, so why shouldn't the PCs also use their brains and tactics, to develop suitable battle formations?

likes
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Talia on September 16, 2011, 02:13:51 AM
Abbott: Not bunch, herd.

Costello: Heard of what?

Abbott: Herd of animals.

Costello: Sure I've heard of animals!

Abbott: No, I mean an animal herd!

Costello: What do I care what an animal heard? I got no secrets from an animal!
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Fomalhaut on September 16, 2011, 06:37:52 AM


A herd of carru arrives from the west.

A herd of carru charges at you and knocks you over!

Your vision goes black.

                               _______                                ___
                             /\\_____//~-_                        _-~\\__
                            (~)       ~-_ ~-_                  _-~ _-~  
                           (~)           ~-_ ~-_            _-~ /-~      
Welcome to Armageddon!     (~)              `~-_ ~_======_--~~ __~        
                         (~)               _~_\__\____/__/_--\ ~`-_  
                          \           _-~~            _-~~~-_ \_  ~-_  
You may:                    ~-       __--~`_    /   _-~         ~.     ~_
(C) Disconnect to your character  -~        \     _~       ___,  \ ~-_  \
(R) Create a new character       ,~ _-,       ~  _~         \   \  | , \ \  
(L) List your characters        / /~/      -~   /            ~  /  /  \~  \
(V) Toggle ANSI/VT100 mode      | | \     _~    |        __-~  / _/  \~  '\
(B) Toggle 'brief' menus        \ ~-_~   -   |  _      ~-____-~ .~  \~    |
(O) Show Race/Guild Options     /`.  __~~   ~   `_          __-~   \~    \~
(P) Change account password     \_ ~~   .  |  .   ~-____--~~   \ \_~   _/~  
(D) Documentation menu          /\___--~       ~--_      /   ____~ _/~~    
(E) Change your Email           \         /        ~~~___  /     _-\\~\    
(X) Exit Armageddon             /\       /                   _-\~\\~\\~\    
(?) Read menu options          / | \   \ | /    /         _-~ )\\~\\~\\~~\  
                             { /\ \             /      _~ \  ~`~~\\~~\\~~\
Read the documentation        { |\     __ _           _-\   \  \\~~\\~~\\~~\
menu before creating your     | ||~_ /`    ~\  /    _/~  )   | |\\~~\\~~\\~~
character, please.            | ||  \|"""""""|_ __-~     ;   | |~\\~~\\~~\\~
                             \ \\  ({"""""""}\\        _~  /  /~~\\~~\\~~\\
Armageddon is OPEN.
Choose thy fate:
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Qzzrbl on September 16, 2011, 08:18:27 AM
Quote from: Fomalhaut on September 16, 2011, 06:37:52 AM


A herd of [s]carru[/s] kank flies arrives from the west.

A herd of [s]carru[/s] kank flies charges at you and knocks you over!

Your vision goes black.

                                _______                                ___
                              /\\_____//~-_                        _-~\\__
                             (~)       ~-_ ~-_                  _-~ _-~   
                            (~)           ~-_ ~-_            _-~ /-~     
Welcome to Armageddon!     (~)              `~-_ ~_======_--~~ __~       
                          (~)               _~_\__\____/__/_--\ ~`-_   
                           \           _-~~            _-~~~-_ \_  ~-_ 
You may:                    ~-       __--~`_    /   _-~         ~.     ~_
(C) Disconnect to your character  -~        \     _~       ___,  \ ~-_  \
(R) Create a new character       ,~ _-,       ~  _~         \   \  | , \ \ 
(L) List your characters        / /~/      -~   /            ~  /  /  \~  \
(V) Toggle ANSI/VT100 mode      | | \     _~    |        __-~  / _/  \~  '\
(B) Toggle 'brief' menus        \ ~-_~   -   |  _      ~-____-~ .~  \~    |
(O) Show Race/Guild Options     /`.  __~~   ~   `_          __-~   \~    \~
(P) Change account password     \_ ~~   .  |  .   ~-____--~~   \ \_~   _/~ 
(D) Documentation menu          /\___--~       ~--_      /   ____~ _/~~     
(E) Change your Email           \         /        ~~~___  /     _-\\~\     
(X) Exit Armageddon             /\       /                   _-\~\\~\\~\   
(?) Read menu options          / | \   \ | /    /         _-~ )\\~\\~\\~~\ 
                              { /\ \             /      _~ \  ~`~~\\~~\\~~\
Read the documentation        { |\     __ _           _-\   \  \\~~\\~~\\~~\
menu before creating your     | ||~_ /`    ~\  /    _/~  )   | |\\~~\\~~\\~~
character, please.            | ||  \|"""""""|_ __-~     ;   | |~\\~~\\~~\\~
                              \ \\  ({"""""""}\\        _~  /  /~~\\~~\\~~\\
Armageddon is OPEN.
Choose thy fate:

Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Qzzrbl on September 16, 2011, 08:19:13 AM
wtf strikethrough

really?
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: X-D on September 16, 2011, 10:02:34 AM
STrikethrough, bold and all that don't work in the code format.

QuoteA herd of carru kank flies arrives from the west.

A herd of carru kank flies charges at you and knocks you over!

Your vision goes black.

                               _______                                ___
                             /\\_____//~-_                        _-~\\__
                            (~)       ~-_ ~-_                  _-~ _-~  
                           (~)           ~-_ ~-_            _-~ /-~      
Welcome to Armageddon!     (~)              `~-_ ~_======_--~~ __~        
                         (~)               _~_\__\____/__/_--\ ~`-_  
                          \           _-~~            _-~~~-_ \_  ~-_  
You may:                    ~-       __--~`_    /   _-~         ~.     ~_
(C) Disconnect to your character  -~        \     _~       ___,  \ ~-_  \
(R) Create a new character       ,~ _-,       ~  _~         \   \  | , \ \  
(L) List your characters        / /~/      -~   /            ~  /  /  \~  \
(V) Toggle ANSI/VT100 mode      | | \     _~    |        __-~  / _/  \~  '\
(B) Toggle 'brief' menus        \ ~-_~   -   |  _      ~-____-~ .~  \~    |
(O) Show Race/Guild Options     /`.  __~~   ~   `_          __-~   \~    \~
(P) Change account password     \_ ~~   .  |  .   ~-____--~~   \ \_~   _/~  
(D) Documentation menu          /\___--~       ~--_      /   ____~ _/~~    
(E) Change your Email           \         /        ~~~___  /     _-\\~\    
(X) Exit Armageddon             /\       /                   _-\~\\~\\~\    
(?) Read menu options          / | \   \ | /    /         _-~ )\\~\\~\\~~\  
                             { /\ \             /      _~ \  ~`~~\\~~\\~~\
Read the documentation        { |\     __ _           _-\   \  \\~~\\~~\\~~\
menu before creating your     | ||~_ /`    ~\  /    _/~  )   | |\\~~\\~~\\~~
character, please.            | ||  \|"""""""|_ __-~     ;   | |~\\~~\\~~\\~
                             \ \\  ({"""""""}\\        _~  /  /~~\\~~\\~~\\
Armageddon is OPEN.
Choose thy fate:

Bleh, well, that sorta worked, but the mantis mutated.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Gunnerblaster on September 16, 2011, 11:05:24 AM
Yeah... The more we joke about this, the less I want it implemented :P
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Sakra on September 16, 2011, 11:13:03 PM

>shoot herd east
You hear something's death cry to the east.
>e
>skin herd
You jam your skinning knife into like, thirty animals, and get a sweet ass pile of hides!
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Riev on September 16, 2011, 11:26:52 PM
I have, on one PC, seen a "herd" of animals, but it was basically one or two "stags" and then a bunch of regular units, and they all attacked if one was threatened.

Boy. That was not fun. For the one that attacked first, that is. ;)
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: musashi on September 17, 2011, 05:57:27 AM
Yay herds of gith. You feel so badass after you single handed kill them all.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Sakra on September 17, 2011, 09:13:39 AM
Quote from: musashi on September 17, 2011, 05:57:27 AM
Yay herds of gith. You feel so badass after you single handed kill them all.

Warband. They're called warbands.
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Saellyn on September 22, 2011, 04:12:12 AM
Quote from: Nyr on September 15, 2011, 03:19:33 PM
A system for something like this has been proposed for Reborn, and once we're at that point, I bet it will be discussed on the blog in great detail! :)

I'm probably among a collective band who is eagerly anticipating Arm 2.

And we're a majority damnit!

Formations sounds great. Now Sergeants can REALLY teach you how to do stuff.

However, since we're all making up herds...

A herd of ruddy-hued, gigantic Mekillots arrives from the east.

think (really unlucky) Oh. Fuck.

Feeling really unlucky, you think:
     "Oh. Fuck."

Someone whispers to you, in sirihish:
     "... You."
Title: Re: Herds of animals?
Post by: Qzzrbl on September 22, 2011, 06:20:35 AM
A herd of a pile of refuse is here....