I assume they exhist, but in what form on Zalanthas?
Loincloth.
Rags. That's what poor people used for quite a while.
If you're thinking of diapers just for the purpose of covering up an infant... a lot of cultures around the world didn't/don't really worry about clothing babies beyond maybe a blanket or something. I'm not sure how Allanaki citizens would respond to an unclothed baby though, since they've got that thing about showing as little skin as possible.
I doubt infant fashion is as important as it is in the modern world.
Probably various basic, cloth diapers or small blankets.
Quote from: HavokBlue on June 03, 2011, 07:00:35 PM
If you're thinking of diapers just for the purpose of covering up an infant...
They also have the purpose of the infant not shitting everywhere.
Diapers -- the baby poop thread.
Time to make a master craft request for a diaper.
The fursuit will have to wait.
Sorry, every staffer who ever worked on more meaningful, thoughtful, artful, insightful projects - that one guy who coded poop has more profoundly changed the game than any of you.
Quote from: Nao on June 03, 2011, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: HavokBlue on June 03, 2011, 07:00:35 PM
If you're thinking of diapers just for the purpose of covering up an infant...
I fucking lawled.
They also have the purpose of the infant not shitting everywhere.
There is dead people all over the streets of Allanak, baby poop would probably be more pleasant in both aroma and appearance. Baby poop green. Allanak needs more green.
Quote from: Kismetic on June 03, 2011, 07:07:36 PM
Diapers -- the baby poop thread.
I squirted Sprite out of my nose. Thanks.
This thread is a good reminder that those bits of soiled cloth laying around everywhere and bandanas and old clothes and stuff... might have been pooped on or been used to wipe with.
Western culture was fairly happy doing business in chamber pots that they kept under the beds and then maids would empty them ... out the window. And that was during a "civilized" stage. I don't think people at the Zalanthan level of tech are going to even notice baby poop.
It's a bit like the first time I rode a horse. I was being all careful as I was walking around the yard with the instructor ... and the instructor just blithely walked through patches of shit. You get used to things real fast.
Baby poop is green? This is not welcome knowledge.
Quote from: lordcooper on June 03, 2011, 09:12:19 PM
Baby poop is green? This is not welcome knowledge.
Sometimes baby poop can be a nice green. Yes.
Here is an example of green poop.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__q4k2NYv5vM/S_NqHd6i-FI/AAAAAAAAAHA/EZbtcUQ-d0o/s1600/diarrhea.jpg)
I was eating a green lentil soup. Thanks for that >:(
God damnit Majikal. >:(
I wish there was a way to block threads so I could utterly and completely ignore them, and not be reminded of their contents when they show up at the top of the page.
It's called self discipline.
Don't feel bad. I don't have any either :D
Quote from: Thunkkin on June 03, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Western culture was fairly happy doing business in chamber pots that they kept under the beds and then maids would empty them ... out the window.
There's at least one place in a city where the echoes describe the last part of this form of... waste management. So I'd say there are very, very few Zalanthans who do better.
If Zalanthan babies wear anything like diapers, I'd say it's probably more for protection from the elements (blowing sand hurts) than for cleanliness.
QuoteIf Zalanthan babies wear anything like diapers, I'd say it's probably more for protection from the elements (blowing sand hurts) than for cleanliness.
And nappy rash doesn't?
Guys, you still don't want your baby shitting all over your furniture, your bed if you have one or onto the table in $finer_establishment. Or even more important, on your lap. Unless you keep a lot of corpses in your place, shit on the floor and have pants you never clean anyway, you do want some form of diapers.
Babies would traditionally be kept in baskets with blankets in them. And they were usually wrapped (swaddled) in another blanket. It maybe did or didn't have rags, moss, grass, or animal fur in it. That may or may not be changed frequently. In some places they would just dry the rags out and use them again without even bothering to clean them. Swaddling was popular well into the 1800s.
And then when the baby was moving and more active, they would either just let the babies run around naked (in warmer climates) or let them run around in open-bottomed jumpers. And just sweep up the messes when they swept the rest of the floor, to get rid of the other messes there, like the messes of domesticated animals, rats, etc. Sometimes they would throw ashes on it first to congeal it into a more neatly sweepable form. They also toilet trained kids a lot earlier. By which I mean strapped them to a toilet chair until they pooped, then let them run around after that.
Cloth diapers were not used popularly until like, the mid to late 1800s. In the industrial revolution. When we had things like steam, telegraphs, and gliders also being invented.
To deal with diaper rash, they would powder the baby with ashes or dust. They might or might not also wash them with soap and water first.
Yay, another thread where we can expose our modern Western prejudices about hygiene and cleanliness.
I'm in China, dudes. They don't use diapers. The babies wear pants or jumpers that have a hole in the butt. When the baby needs to go (they train them early on this), the just hold them out over the street. Or some grass.
That doesn't mean the baby goes naked.
Quote from: hyzhenhok on June 15, 2011, 11:04:25 AM
Yay, another thread where we can expose our modern Western prejudices about hygiene and cleanliness.
I'm in China, dudes. They don't use diapers. The babies wear pants or jumpers that have a hole in the butt. When the baby needs to go (they train them early on this), the just hold them out over the street. Or some grass.
That doesn't mean the baby goes naked.
I still don't buy it, for babies. They aren't gioing to give any indication that they're going to push out some near-liquid baby poo for several months. They will also be carried around quite a bit, on your body (baskets are nice but not hands-free). And then poop on you if they aren't wrapped in something. Since dung-sweepers smell more horrible than your average zalanthan, I'll assume that walking around poo-covered is not 'normal'. Cleaning your stuff is expensive and takes an effort, it makes much more sense to just avoid getting baby poo onto it in the first place.
I assume babies get swaddled anyway, to make them easier to take care of and less of a nuisance.
Quote from: Nao on June 16, 2011, 07:18:03 AM
Quote from: hyzhenhok on June 15, 2011, 11:04:25 AM
Yay, another thread where we can expose our modern Western prejudices about hygiene and cleanliness.
I'm in China, dudes. They don't use diapers. The babies wear pants or jumpers that have a hole in the butt. When the baby needs to go (they train them early on this), the just hold them out over the street. Or some grass.
That doesn't mean the baby goes naked.
I still don't buy it, for babies. They aren't gioing to give any indication that they're going to push out some near-liquid baby poo for several months. They will also be carried around quite a bit, on your body (baskets are nice but not hands-free). And then poop on you if they aren't wrapped in something. Since dung-sweepers smell more horrible than your average zalanthan, I'll assume that walking around poo-covered is not 'normal'. Cleaning your stuff is expensive and takes an effort, it makes much more sense to just avoid getting baby poo onto it in the first place.
I assume babies get swaddled anyway, to make them easier to take care of and less of a nuisance.
Very young babies get swaddled, but you'd be surprised how early a baby can be trained to signal they have to go poop (or be trained to poop at regular intervals, at least). In countries that cannot afford diapers, certainly not disposables, and in Zalanthas even not water for cleaning re-usable cloth diapers, they still find a way to get it done.
"Swaddling" for very young babies is okay, but if I saw a reference to diapers it would set off my anachronism alarm.
As a stay-at-home mom, I'd like to mention that swaddling only works for very young babies unless you tie them into their blankets. By about 1 month, they can get out of most swaddles.
Also, babies are fairly regular because breastmilk is a super-food. If you only breastfeed, they typically have predictably timed [within reason], low-odor waste.
From birth - 5 months, she peed a nearly odorless liquid all the time (wet diaper every 2 hrs), but her bowel movements (which only smelled like vinegar and cheese unless she got sick) were every 3 - 4 days on average. Apparently , that's normal, according to several different doctors. I know this because I freaked and thought she was constipated. (Obviously, that's why she's crying! Right? No. She's just a baby. They don't poop much, but they never shut up >_>)
Now, at 6 and 7 months, she has a bowel movement every day in the morning and her urine smells like urine, but we've also started giving her solid food.
When you're with your kids 24/7 you learn how to communicate with your them and you watch for different signals. You definitely catch on, eventually. I let her be naked at home a lot, and honestly, it's not that hard to keep track of. I just leave on something I don't mind washing.
Though, now that she's started crawling, she has a diaper on all the time. But note, this is because I am a lazy American and have that luxury.
Concerning colour, it depends on what you [the mother] eats and what you feed them. Yeah, if you feed them green food (spinach, for instance, or broccoli), their poo will be green. In my experience, the colour range is actually more yellow - orange - light brown.
So there you have it. I know much about babies (and thus, their poo) because when you have one, people force feed you information.
Hope this helps :)