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Title: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: mansa on October 30, 2009, 12:59:26 PM
Wouldn't it be cool...

If you could turn your PC into a NPC, and retire from playing it.  You would know your character continues to live out their life, doing whatever they do, filling a visible position within the game...

That would be soooo cool.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Adiadochokinesis on October 30, 2009, 01:00:30 PM
This happens from time to time.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 03, 2009, 09:03:35 PM
Yeah, seen it happen.

I will never ask for it myself, though, because I've also seen the staff turn retired PCs into NPCs only to kill them in horribly gruesome ways.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: PerpetualPatriot on November 04, 2009, 11:07:33 PM
Just change the ldesc of your precious PC to mimick that of other NPCs in the area, don typical NPC clothing, sign out and never sign back in!
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: musashi on November 05, 2009, 07:13:33 AM
Quote from: PerpetualPatriot on November 04, 2009, 11:07:33 PM
Just change the ldesc of your precious PC to mimick that of other NPCs in the area, don typical NPC clothing, sign out and never sign back in!

This is also a good way to avoid PC law enforcement when they're chasing you, so long as they've never seen your sdesc before.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Cutthroat on November 05, 2009, 08:22:28 AM
Quote from: mansa on October 30, 2009, 12:59:26 PM
Wouldn't it be cool...

If you could turn your PC into a NPC, and retire from playing it.  You would know your character continues to live out their life, doing whatever they do, filling a visible position within the game...

That would be soooo cool.

I think one staff member once mentioned a problem with allowing this. I think they said that the players of PCs turned NPCs would e-mail in to check on their old character and see how they were doing, and they would inevitably be disappointed that either nothing happened or something negative happened (i.e., their NPC character was killed off). I can't find that post now though. Anyway, because of that, staff stopped doing this in most cases. But it's certainly happened before.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: FantasyWriter on November 05, 2009, 08:25:41 AM
I also remember reading about players complaining about them being "played wrong" when animated.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: jcljules on November 05, 2009, 08:34:50 AM
If you have the honor of having your PC turned into an NPC, you shouldn't complain about them being played wrong.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: MarshallDFX on November 05, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
I for one would love to be IG and witness my old NPC'ed character horribly maimed.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: PerpetualPatriot on November 05, 2009, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: musashi on November 05, 2009, 07:13:33 AM
Quote from: PerpetualPatriot on November 04, 2009, 11:07:33 PM
Just change the ldesc of your precious PC to mimick that of other NPCs in the area, don typical NPC clothing, sign out and never sign back in!

This is also a good way to avoid PC law enforcement when they're chasing you, so long as they've never seen your sdesc before.

Light dons on marble heads.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: UnderSeven on November 06, 2009, 02:08:24 PM
I asked to have this done before and was told that staff don't tend to generally like rping other people's pcs.  I'm not really sure what this would add to the game anyway, if your pc 'lives on' thats neat, but possibly more relevant as submitted ic stories and such than an npc which may or may not actually get used.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: spicemustflow on November 07, 2009, 10:05:02 PM
Corpse is technically an NPC.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: MarshallDFX on November 07, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
Start PC.  Join a clan.  Play for a massively long time.  Have your PC turned into a clan NPC.  Wait for some time.  Apply to be noble/leader of said clan.  Bring your old PC as your guard, and animate.  Boom, you get to have two characters at once.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Aaron Goulet on November 07, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: spicemustflow on November 07, 2009, 10:05:02 PM
Corpse is technically an NPC.

A corpse is technically a container.  Personally, I think they should be drink containers instead.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: mansa on November 08, 2009, 01:59:18 AM
I think its more of the satisafaction of having a character that "wins" armageddon.

Having attempted to leave your mark on the world in a non-item creation way.

A way to promote more "gain vs loss" mentality of playing a game.


When someone is an npc, it feels good as a player to feel like you accomplished something.

Who cares if nobody plays it ever again.  You'll have a cool story to tell other people.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: HunterKiller on November 08, 2009, 03:42:35 AM
Quote from: mansa on November 08, 2009, 01:59:18 AM
I think its more of the satisafaction of having a character that "wins" armageddon.

Having attempted to leave your mark on the world in a non-item creation way.

I know what you mean. In my case it was helping set up clan documentation, language and helping shape future events with some added account privies I remember most fondly. It's especially sweet that the clan is still around. That notion of leaving your mark is pretty universal, imo. I think in more than just a few ways Arm parallels reality in chillingly close ways, at least after you scrap away the thin top layer to expose what's underneath.

- HK
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Morrolan on November 08, 2009, 07:59:34 PM
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on November 07, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: spicemustflow on November 07, 2009, 10:05:02 PM
Corpse is technically an NPC.

A corpse is technically a container.  Personally, I think they should be drink containers instead.

Oh, they have been.  They have been, indeed!
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Cavaticus on November 12, 2009, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: Marauder Moe on November 03, 2009, 09:03:35 PM
Yeah, seen it happen.

Yup. We have done this.

Quote from: Marauder Moe
I will never ask for it myself, though, because I've also seen the staff turn retired PCs into NPCs only to kill them in horribly gruesome ways.

I have personally done this.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 12, 2009, 08:20:14 AM
Quote from: Cavaticus on November 12, 2009, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: Marauder Moe on November 03, 2009, 09:03:35 PM
Yeah, seen it happen.

Yup. We have done this.

Quote from: Marauder Moe
I will never ask for it myself, though, because I've also seen the staff turn retired PCs into NPCs only to kill them in horribly gruesome ways.

I have personally done this.
I suspect we're remembering the same instance, heh.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: Tuannon on November 29, 2009, 05:32:22 AM
Having played a few cornerstone type roles, I don't really like this idea. As it gives people an air of winning and losing. I don't want to have the carrot of "If I do really awesome with thsi role I will become a noble bodyguard forever" hanging just out of reach.

I would rather play a PC who does that stuff and ends up being in a whole heap of messy situations. It is far more enjoyable that way. Also, it is a painful thing for me to write about my roles and how they act and stuff. I suppose it's just a funny thing.
Title: Re: Turning your PC into a NPC
Post by: hyzhenhok on November 29, 2009, 05:46:56 AM
Getting turned into an NPC is the secret of immortality. As has been explored in our cultural traditions, however, immortality is not necessarily a good thing.

You still have needs, wants, and desires, still feel pain and hunger, etc, even though you can never die. Who envies the man who achieved immortality, only to spend eternity begging on Meleth's Circle? Or the frail cripple whose immortality only means an eternity of being repeatedly ganked by wannabe assassins and tough guys? Or the guard, who gets to spend an infinite number of years planted in one spot, saluting people and opening and closing a gate?

It's no wonder that the majority of the vNPC population is happy to remain v, so that they may virtually live out their lives and virtually die in peace. Life in Armageddon is harsh enough; if you make it eternal, you might as well be in Tartarus.