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Title: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 03:56:13 PM
Alright, is it just me who thinks that you should become less drunk even when logged out? Because I'm tired of logging in while drunk (IC, I mean) nearly three IG weeks after whatever event made me drunk. When asked to account for my drunkenness IC, I can hardly say "There was this party four weeks ago!" and expect to be believed.

Does anyone else agree?
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: mansa on December 11, 2008, 03:58:21 PM
Everybody agrees.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: staggerlee on December 11, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 03:56:13 PM
Alright, is it just me who thinks that you should become less drunk even when logged out? Because I'm tired of logging in while drunk (IC, I mean) nearly three IG weeks after whatever event made me drunk. When asked to account for my drunkenness IC, I can hardly say "There was this party four weeks ago!" and expect to be believed.

Does anyone else agree?

I think that all effect timers should run down while logged out.  I'd include spells and all sorts of other stuff in there.

"You there citizen, why are you floating?"  
"Well Lord Templar, there was this RPT and the gemmers got carried away..."
"That was over a year ago!"
"Uhhhh..."
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: staggerlee on December 11, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 03:56:13 PM
Alright, is it just me who thinks that you should become less drunk even when logged out? Because I'm tired of logging in while drunk (IC, I mean) nearly three IG weeks after whatever event made me drunk. When asked to account for my drunkenness IC, I can hardly say "There was this party four weeks ago!" and expect to be believed.

Does anyone else agree?

I think that all effect timers should run down while logged out.  I'd include spells and all sorts of other stuff in there.

"You there citizen, why are you floating?"  
"Well Lord Templar, there was this RPT and the gemmers got carried away..."
"That was over a year ago!"
"Uhhhh..."

Hehehehe... I love improvised GDB scenes.

Oh and everything except poison, hunger and thirst timers should decline while logged off.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Tisiphone on December 11, 2008, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 04:33:25 PM
Oh and everything except poison, hunger, thirst, dungeon sentence, and a few other things not proper to mention here timers should decline while logged off.

There ya go.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: brytta.leofa on December 11, 2008, 05:50:04 PM
No, no.  Jail time is an OOC punishment.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 05:52:08 PM
I kinda think that jailtime too should decline while logged off... wait before attacking me--but I also think they should be significantly increased to make them more realistic. So you'd be in jail for a few RL days, but the time would elapse regardless of whether or not you were logged in. Maybe you'd be required to log in for at least an hour of it or something.

emote covers his head with his hands defensively as the hordes begin to clamber for his head.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Tisiphone on December 11, 2008, 05:53:05 PM
Quote from: brytta.leofa on December 11, 2008, 05:50:04 PM
No, no.  Jail time is an OOC punishment.

Read it again. You're being confused by the negatives.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: brytta.leofa on December 11, 2008, 06:06:57 PM
Not my week for perceptiveness.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
What would even be the point of having a jail if we could just log off and do other stuff while the timer runs down?

"But I got locked in jail once, and logged off for RL years, and I'm still there. That's unrealistic."

There's no due process on Zalanthas. People get forgotten in jails all the time.

Jail times are fine like they are.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
There's no due process on Zalanthas. People get forgotten in jails all the time.

Thats actually a really good point. I was reading articles about traffic violators in third world countries having their files lost and being kept in prison for years and years.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
There's no due process on Zalanthas. People get forgotten in jails all the time.

Thats actually a really good point. I was reading articles about traffic violators in third world countries having their files lost and being kept in prison for years and years.

Now imagine if those files were limited to the guard's memory.

Really, you're lucky to ever be let out of a Zalanthan jail in the first place.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Zira on December 11, 2008, 06:22:44 PM
I would agree with the drunkeness timer thing. If I'm drunk when it's time to log out, I'll stay on until that's gone, or at least until it's almost gone. Though, I've seen MUDs where the alcohol was treated as a poison by code (so if you were immune or resistant to poison, alcohol would affect you less, or not at all). If that was the case here, then the only way to run down drunkeness would be to run down poison. Boy wouldn't that be fun to die of a poisonous bite while logged off.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Tlaloc on December 11, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
There's no due process on Zalanthas. People get forgotten in jails all the time.

Thats actually a really good point. I was reading articles about traffic violators in third world countries having their files lost and being kept in prison for years and years.

Now imagine if those files were limited to the guard's memory.

Really, you're lucky to ever be let out of a Zalanthan jail in the first place.

Or worse: a half-giant guard's memory.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:58:01 PM

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes opens a cell door, peering inside with a dull gaze.

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes says, in sirihish, "Umm.... whys you in here 'gain?"

A Dark, Dank Cell [N Quit]
It sucks to be here.

A weak, withering corpse is here, rotting.

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes says in sirihish, growing angry, "Why you not answer! Why you never answer! Why nobody talks to me!"

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes begins to cry softly, slamming the cell door.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on December 11, 2008, 06:59:16 PM
Quote from: Tlaloc on December 11, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
There's no due process on Zalanthas. People get forgotten in jails all the time.

Thats actually a really good point. I was reading articles about traffic violators in third world countries having their files lost and being kept in prison for years and years.

Now imagine if those files were limited to the guard's memory.

Really, you're lucky to ever be let out of a Zalanthan jail in the first place.

Or worse: a half-giant guard's memory.
I was going to say exactly that. Hah.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: FiveDisgruntledMonkeysWit on December 11, 2008, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Tlaloc on December 11, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:16:26 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on December 11, 2008, 06:07:24 PM
There's no due process on Zalanthas. People get forgotten in jails all the time.

Thats actually a really good point. I was reading articles about traffic violators in third world countries having their files lost and being kept in prison for years and years.

Now imagine if those files were limited to the guard's memory.

Really, you're lucky to ever be let out of a Zalanthan jail in the first place.

Or worse: a half-giant guard's memory.
I once used that exact excuse IG when I logged out and didn't log back in for like two IG years.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Delstro on December 11, 2008, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: jcljules on December 11, 2008, 06:58:01 PM

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes opens a cell door, peering inside with a dull gaze.

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes says, in sirihish, "Umm.... whys you in here 'gain?"

A Dark, Dank Cell [N Quit]
It sucks to be here.

A weak, withering corpse is here, rotting.

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes says in sirihish, growing angry, "Why you not answer! Why you never answer! Why nobody talks to me!"

A half-giant soldier of Tektolnes begins to cry softly, slamming the cell door.



;D
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: FightClub on December 13, 2008, 05:35:45 AM
Lets not -- drift from the subject matter.

Derails aside, if 'drunk loss' weren't a possibility during log out, I'd be in favor of it quickening during ic time.  It makes no sense that you should be plastered for seven ic days off of three beers either.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Shiroi Tsuki on December 13, 2008, 09:28:17 AM
I would also be all for reducing the IC time that you're drunk, on top of drunk timers ticking out while you're logged off.

I mean, if I can get totally plastered and then go to work only slightly drunk six hours later, I don't see why my character gets totally plastered and then can't walk straight for three days. 

Unless they're doing things during their blackout period that I'm not a party to.   ::)
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Tisiphone on December 13, 2008, 09:35:27 AM
Drunk code needs a complete rewrite. Like a number of other things, the relationship is almost completely binary. Either you get so drunk off of a single bottle that you can't walk straight for the next IC month, or you chug down three casks of the best Kadian brandy and you still can't but barely get a buzz.

We need a more realistic tolerance and recovery.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Marauder Moe on December 13, 2008, 04:07:34 PM
The biggest change I'd like to see is a (somewhat random and/or hunger-dependent) delay between taking a drink and feeling the effects.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Qzzrbl on December 13, 2008, 04:36:03 PM
Not sure if it's taken into account or not, but I'd also like to see food and how full you are having an effect on drunkenness too.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Majikal on December 14, 2008, 04:29:27 AM
Quote from: Marauder Moe on December 13, 2008, 04:07:34 PM
The biggest change I'd like to see is a (somewhat random and/or hunger-dependent) delay between taking a drink and feeling the effects.

Definately a badass idea, let that last sneaky shot come around and bite you in the ass 10 minutes later... it happens to me all the time.

But for the OP idea, agreed completely. Would like to see it only effecting the spice/alcohol code though.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Rahnevyn on December 14, 2008, 08:56:38 PM
Since Armageddon is a game, we can take liberties with realism, and make it so conditions are more ideal for characters in the world. This is why you never have to go to the bathroom or sleep, for example.

It's also why you can stay drunk for weeks on end.

I mean seriously, if you could get drunk for weeks on weeks off just a few shots, without suffering from alcohol poisoning or liver damage, WHY WOULDN'T YOU?
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: musashi on December 14, 2008, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Rahnevyn on December 14, 2008, 08:56:38 PM
I mean seriously, if you could get drunk for weeks on weeks off just a few shots, without suffering from alcohol poisoning or liver damage, WHY WOULDN'T YOU?

Thanks for the new quote  ;D
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 14, 2008, 09:15:18 PM
I'm fine with drunkenness taking a while to go away... what I'm not fine with is how the timer doesn't go down while logged off. Being drunk for ten days IG is fine by me.... being drunk after taking a month long break from Armageddon is not.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Zira on December 15, 2008, 02:40:18 AM
Quote from: musashi on December 14, 2008, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Rahnevyn on December 14, 2008, 08:56:38 PM
I mean seriously, if you could get drunk for weeks on weeks off just a few shots, without suffering from alcohol poisoning or liver damage, WHY WOULDN'T YOU?

Thanks for the new quote  ;D
Oh poo on you and your speediness. I refuse to change my sig back!

Quote from: jcljules on December 14, 2008, 09:15:18 PM
I'm fine with drunkenness taking a while to go away... what I'm not fine with is how the timer doesn't go down while logged off. Being drunk for ten days IG is fine by me.... being drunk after taking a month long break from Armageddon is not.
Agreed
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Morgenes on December 15, 2008, 10:26:41 AM
Next reboot drunkenness will fade at the same rate while you are logged off as if you were logged on.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: jcljules on December 15, 2008, 10:29:38 AM
Quote from: Morgenes on December 15, 2008, 10:26:41 AM
Next reboot drunkenness will fade at the same rate while you are logged off as if you were logged on.

Wooooooooohhhh!!!!

I am so proud. I posted about something on the GDB, and now a code change is happening.  ;D
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: brytta.leofa on December 15, 2008, 10:30:14 AM
Wow.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: Cutthroat on December 15, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
Woo!

>drink cask (in celebration)

>drink cask (in celebration)

>drink cask (in celebration)
Your vision goes black.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: deviant storm on December 15, 2008, 01:51:28 PM
Quote from: Cutthroat on December 15, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
Woo!

>drink cask (in celebration)

>drink cask (in celebration)

>drink cask (in celebration)
Your vision goes black.

>steal Cuttroat's boots

No, really, thanks Morgenes.

Edit: Dealing with rampant typos.
Title: Re: Endless Drunkenness
Post by: a strange shadow on December 15, 2008, 03:44:39 PM
Quote from: Morgenes on December 15, 2008, 10:26:41 AM
Next reboot drunkenness will fade at the same rate while you are logged off as if you were logged on.

<3