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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Ami on May 13, 2008, 11:25:27 AM

Title: Hair modification?
Post by: Ami on May 13, 2008, 11:25:27 AM
Not sure if this belongs here but perhaps there should be coded buyable things that you can wear that indicate how you are wearing your hair?

like

in your hair [A loose ponytail.]

in your hair [A high ponytail.]

in your hair [A pair of high pigtails.]

in your hair [Scraped back.]

etc.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Shoka Windrunner on May 13, 2008, 11:27:33 AM
Oooooo....not bad.  Not bad.  I think I like that.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Ami on May 13, 2008, 11:31:43 AM
I mean, if your desc says that you have a loose ponytail...
You have it in a ponytail for life... (or at least til you req a desc change, which, given only TWO..)


You get my meaning?

xD

Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Lizzie on May 13, 2008, 12:47:50 PM
But what about the rest of your features? Why just hair? Why hair at all? I think the point of the main description is to give a general idea of what your character -usually- looks like. So he usually has two eyes, he usually has long hair kept in a braid. He usually has exactly one long scar going from his left eye to his chin. He usually has a clean face

But what happens after he gets into a bar brawl? His hair is disheveled, one eye might be swollen shut and not visible to anyone, he might now have several cuts which will turn into scars in a week, and his face is smudged with bar filth.

If you can change hair, then everything else should be changeable too. Or, just try to only use descriptions in your main desc that would outline what your character would -usually- look like, and use emotes and existing things to RP the rest (like a flower worn in the hair - if you emote it, everyone will know that you wrapped the stem around the hair pulled back and is being used as a ponytail holder).
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Ami on May 13, 2008, 01:49:04 PM
Just hair because I'm biased towards hair.  ;D
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: NoteworthyFellow on May 13, 2008, 02:32:07 PM
Well, if there can be command emotes, why not "wear emotes?"  For example,

> wear ribbon hair {pulling back her hair into a loose ponytail}
You wear a blue ribbon in your hair.

> l me

<worn in hair> a blue ribbon (pulling back her hair into a loose ponytail)

>wear boots {left untied}
You wear a pair of plain leather boots on your feet.

<worn on feet> a pair of plain leather boots (left untied)
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Tisiphone on May 13, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
I think this qualifies as feature creep; making eq lists downright rococo.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I think the idea is really cool in a vacuum, but I think there's already so much spam flying around on the MUD that this wouldn't really be worthwhile, when it can be simulated well enough when it matters.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: NoteworthyFellow on May 13, 2008, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: Tisiphone on May 13, 2008, 02:35:07 PM
I think this qualifies as feature creep; making eq lists downright rococo.

Yeah, it does seem a bit overkill, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Salt Merchant on May 13, 2008, 03:24:18 PM
Just one nice example of what the "point-form" character description could offer.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Yam on May 13, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Or a temporary description a la SoI.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Riev on May 13, 2008, 07:03:56 PM
Personally, so far as descs, I go for things that are obviously seen on a quick glance, that won't change. Teeth, nose, hair, build


I tend to go after the face more because "the tall, muscular man" can only describe so many Amos'. A face can be covered by a mask, or a hood, and whatnot.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Maybe42or54 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:50 PM
Definately like it. I would prefer that we have a couple lines at the bottom of our description that we can change at will. That way, I can describe my busted lip one day, my ponytail the neck, and then the patchy baldness that I have the next day.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: musashi on May 13, 2008, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: Maybe42or54 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:50 PM
Definately like it. I would prefer that we have a couple lines at the bottom of our description that we can change at will. That way, I can describe my busted lip one day, my ponytail the neck, and then the patchy baldness that I have the next day.

That sounds like a good suggestion for 2.Arm.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: psionic fungus on May 13, 2008, 10:57:13 PM
I actually like (and have suggested in the past) the idea of being able to put a "drop description" on items that are worn or in your inventory (for peekers and such, with the current inventory system).  The only problem I have with this idea is that it could parse strangely with parsed equipment descriptions, so players would have to be careful of how things were worded.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 14, 2008, 09:16:12 AM
tdesc!
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: flurry on May 14, 2008, 12:11:57 PM
I like the idea, and I think it should work like scars and tattoos.  You can get them added in some ooc room, and they get covered by wearing things over them.  That would help cut down on extra spam, I think.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Ami on May 14, 2008, 12:14:20 PM
It was just something that skimmed across my head one night so I thought i'd just get my idea down here..

It's not something I plotted deep in my mind and am adamant about..

It could be a good idea, it could be a worthless piece of something..

:D
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Maso on May 15, 2008, 12:12:23 PM
And we're back to the whole TDESC thing again. Still my favourite idea of the year.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Maybe42or54 on May 15, 2008, 02:09:21 PM
MMMM Tdesc
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: psionic fungus on May 15, 2008, 02:59:28 PM
I would like to point out that "tdesc" idea does not address my suggestion whatsoever.

:P
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Maybe42or54 on May 15, 2008, 03:41:11 PM
I prefer a TDESC, than a IDESC (Inventory Description).

I don't really feel like I want one like you suggested, PF.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: psionic fungus on May 15, 2008, 04:56:12 PM
You understand that these things are not mutually exclusive, right?

There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't have both.

"Inventory Description" is a poor term, because it could be used to describe how objects are worn as well.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Maybe42or54 on May 15, 2008, 06:47:11 PM
I'm just saying that I wouldn't use it at all. If someone else does, more power to them. I wouldn't, though.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: psionic fungus on May 15, 2008, 07:50:04 PM
I wouldn't use a tdesc feature.

I like to write my descriptions in a way that makes it difficult or impossible to tack a sentence onto the end without horribly mangling their flow.

:-\
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Fathi on May 15, 2008, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: psionic fungus on May 15, 2008, 07:50:04 PM
I wouldn't use a tdesc feature.

I like to write my descriptions in a way that makes it difficult or impossible to tack a sentence onto the end without horribly mangling their flow.

:-\

In the muds I've seen that utilise tdesc, it's actually done as a smallish second paragraph below your mdesc, usually around 3-4 lines or less. It isn't actually "attached" to the end of your mdesc.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: hyzhenhok on May 20, 2008, 10:04:24 PM
When I started out with Arm, I was confused enough by sdesc, mdesc and ldesc. Adding more "descs" just makes the game more intimidating in exchange for a very limited benefit.

There's no reason why you can't describe your hairstyle using emotes.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Agent_137 on May 26, 2008, 11:53:22 PM
Quote from: hyzhenhok on May 20, 2008, 10:04:24 PM
When I started out with Arm, I was confused enough by sdesc, mdesc and ldesc. Adding more "descs" just makes the game more intimidating in exchange for a very limited benefit.

There's no reason why you can't describe your hairstyle using emotes.

very little benefit? Huge benefit, if you ask me. that way if my face is bruised from the sparring match that i just finished, but my hp is full, i don't have to emote bruises to every single bastard that walks into the gaj.

plus, it'd be optional, if a newb wants to ignore it or doesn't learn about it for a year it's not a problem.

tdesc would be an incredible thing to have. of course, it doesn't precisely give the OP what she wants, but I think hairstyles and such could be made part of the change locdesc, i think a hair parlor that sells them would be a little ridiculous.
Title: Re: Hair modification?
Post by: Maybe42or54 on May 26, 2008, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: Agent_137 on May 26, 2008, 11:53:22 PM
Huge benefit,
plus, it'd be optional,
incredible thing

Quoted for truth.