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General => World and Roleplaying Discussion => Topic started by: Greve on January 22, 2008, 02:59:39 AM

Title: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Greve on January 22, 2008, 02:59:39 AM
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Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on January 22, 2008, 03:08:00 AM
That is actually a really good observation.

I have no good answer.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Grey Area on January 22, 2008, 03:09:48 AM
Militia is also a term for a state police force, which the Arm of the Dragon very definitely is.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Greve on January 22, 2008, 03:30:16 AM
I've never heard it used that way, actually.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Kalden on January 22, 2008, 03:38:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_%28Police%29
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Manhattan on January 22, 2008, 04:50:29 AM
I have no idea why the Byn have "military abas", but "military boots" also exist in game, so... ???
Then again, the Byn are also Purple Dragon Knights from Forgotten Realms, in disguise.

Inconsistencies annoy me!
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Morrolan on January 24, 2008, 09:18:32 AM
On this topic, and the topic of fashion (another thread), I would like to see such social rules as:
"Socially, abas generally denote military lifestyle.  While not worn by soldiers alone, they tend to form the base of military uniforms."  Whether this was true for a single culture area, or the whole game (which might be more playable) I would like to see this sort of cultural rule exist in the documentation.  Note that it does not prevent any character from wearing an aba.  It would simply color the way the character was seen by those around them.

Morrolan
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Spud on January 24, 2008, 12:20:54 PM
I think clans should give up cloaks and abas and adopt pinnies. Sort of like jerseys but simpler.

http://www.teamskyline.com/productImages/SKP3_1a.jpg

Sandcloth pinnies ftw.

A neat crest on the chest and flashy colors to differentiate clans and their importance.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Spoon on January 24, 2008, 01:36:45 PM
I'm pretty sure the Byn's 'military' aba refers to the style of aba, being open at the front for access to weapons etc. Kind of like army-boots, being a style of boot rather than official boots for the army.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Zoltan on January 24, 2008, 06:48:13 PM
Quote from: Spoon on January 24, 2008, 01:36:45 PM
I'm pretty sure the Byn's 'military' aba refers to the style of aba, being open at the front for access to weapons etc. Kind of like army-boots, being a style of boot rather than official boots for the army.

That's exactly what I think.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: jstorrie on January 24, 2008, 07:11:05 PM
Spud: do you mean tabards?
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Spud on January 25, 2008, 03:50:01 PM
Is that what tabards look like?
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: WWYD on January 25, 2008, 04:00:53 PM
Pretty much, except a lot more elaborate.

I'd rather have pinnies then tabards, though. Make everyone wear one color, their clan's color.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Dan on January 25, 2008, 04:09:43 PM
Pinnies is a ridiculous name for something though, and I for one am against anything that sounds that silly.

When you boil it down we are talking semantics here. Tabard just sounds cooler while meaning, 'basically', the same thing.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Spud on January 26, 2008, 07:32:05 AM
Alright, the name doesn't matter to me I just thought the look was neat. Anyways, I was thinking of people that can't identify what clan someone is in..

Why aren't clanned characters given a title in their sdesc if they're wearing a uniform?

The wispy, silver haired Salarri has arrived from the east.

Like Templars, but for everyone! I'm pretty sure this has been brought up before but I figured I'd bring it up again.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Maybe42or54 on January 26, 2008, 10:13:06 AM
I really like that idea.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Cerelum on January 26, 2008, 10:22:33 AM
Agreed, it would be easier for Newbies to tell who the hell you were, when they as characters would undoubtably know that the guy with all the jade cross gear is a soldier.

J-Rod
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Sephiroto on January 26, 2008, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: Spud on January 26, 2008, 07:32:05 AM
Alright, the name doesn't matter to me I just thought the look was neat. Anyways, I was thinking of people that can't identify what clan someone is in..

Why aren't clanned characters given a title in their sdesc if they're wearing a uniform?

The wispy, silver haired Salarri has arrived from the east.

Like Templars, but for everyone! I'm pretty sure this has been brought up before but I figured I'd bring it up again.
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Reason: because we can look at a hunter/soldier/crafter/noble and determine which faction they are from by their rings, armbands, sigils, and cloaks.  Every time I see a 'steel-grey' cloak my brain sees "Salarr."
I'd hate to see clan titles in sdescs.  The next point to digress after allowing clan titles in sdescs would be having names over our character's heads.

Now, back to the military, militia, soldier, templar conversation:  I would love to see bynners having the words mercenary in their sdesc and those in AoD and the Sun Legions have the words soldier added to their sdesc when wearing the uniform.
I also would like seeing other words like hunter, merchant, crafter, and other obvious words added to a person's sdesc when they wear uniform items.

We have npc's with some of these titles and I feel strongly that the use of a scheme like this would add atmosphere to the game and alleviate some of the feelings of emptiness when we pass the tall, indescript man on the road on our way to the tavern.
These titles would also help us understand a character's basic appearance without having to take time to spam look.  The three-fingered mercenary means much more to me, in terms of atmosphere, than the three-fingered human does.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: Spud on January 26, 2008, 05:04:11 PM
We can look at Templars too.
Title: Re: Militia vs. Military
Post by: jstorrie on January 27, 2008, 02:05:19 AM
I strongly support the idea of PCs who -would- recognize things as clan symbols as having the -option- (clandescs on/clandescs off) of seeing clan-specific descs. Absolutely. Could work very well with an invisible city lore skill, even.