Tired of bowing down beneath the oppressive yoke of the templarate? Tired of obeying those silly laws? Fed up with digging latrines for weeks on end and being eaten by raptors?
The Rinth wants you!
Come join the exciting RP opportunities in the alleys of Allanak's most...colorful sector! (neckers need not apply) :p
Seriously...come play with us. We need more people.
I know a lot of people think that playing in the rinth is the same old, fighting every day, stealing from the rich giving to yourself kind of RP, but there's tons of room for variety.
I heartily endorse this post. Play in the 'rinth, 'Nak needs more 'rinth rats.
This campaign is endorsed by the Bogre Baby Rinther Assc. Don't let those baby vnpc's grow up alone!
Who would be best to PM about this?
Far as I know it's just a starting location, read the docs and jump in game. ;)
The 'rinth is a starting location, and it can be awesome. Definitely go play in the 'rinth, I really enjoyed my time there.
To get you started:
What You Know If You Are From the Labyrinth (http://www.armageddon.org/intro/rinth.html)
New to the 'rinth (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,26206.0.html)
Rinthi habits/legends (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,26548.0.html)
Safe in the rinth (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,21419.0.html)
Why I hate the rinth (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,21414.0.html)
Another tip for anyone new to playing in the 'rinth: When you start your character, you will probably be confused as to where the hell you are and why you are there. The reason you're there is because all 'rinthi characters, regardless of race, start in the same location. So, go north, and then figure the rest out for yourself.
Ah, well... Just curious if there was anyone in particular to get involved is all. Not going to get into character detail, but you can proably figure my interest.
Also thank you for those links, I actually needed those.
Clans in the 'rinth operate in the same way that clans in Allanak proper do, which is to say, you can't join them OOCly. You have to get in game and get the IC hookup. Trust me, you wouldn't want to bypass that part, because joining a gang in the 'rinth has its own particular kind of charm ;)
Exactly, and thanks for posting those links Gimfalisette.
As much as we'd prefer you to sneak your way in like the dirty rinth rat you are...I'm happy to answer PM questions as long as they are plenty vague!
The 'Rinth is awesome. I had a crap load of fun for the brief time I played in it. Personally, I jumped in without reading anything besides the "What you know" about it. In fact, I knew just about nothing about the place. It was very exciting getting to learn the ins and outs. I have two main points of advice though, and even though they were mentioned in the links Gimf posted I think they bear repeating:
1. The 'Rinth is as nasty as it gets on Zalanthas. Muggings and murder are common place. If you stick out of the crowd by your appearance or your actions, you will become a target.
2. DO NOT QUIT OUT SOUTHSIDE. Allanak proper is not your home if you're a 'Rinth rat. Try not to think of the southside as a "safe" area. Remember, that's where the law resides. A 'Rinther wandering around the Commoner's Quarter can look pretty suspicious. Keeping this concept in mind was one of my favorite aspects of 'Rinth play. The home and familiar places of my first character transformed into an alien place fraught with danger through the eyes of my 'Rinther. I loved it.
Now I really want to play a 'Rinther again...
We need to edit the 'what you know' of the 'rinth to include that not lowering your hood on command is a VIOLENT OFFENSE.
I never got into the 'rinth because, back when I tried it, I played it badly.
One of the things that would have helped would have been something like a FAMILY (or gang? This is the 'rinth) ROLE *hint hint* The 'rinth is very difficult to get into if you approach it incorrectly, which I think turns the majority of first-timers away. So sad.
I endorse the rinth, whole heartedly.
Play criminals.
We all float...
As a newbie I have to say I really enjoyed my brief time playing in the 'rinth and will happily do it again. Maybe it's because I was a complete newb, but I didn't find it a lot harder than playing anywhere else thus far, and though I didn't exactly get far (not because of playing in the 'rinth, all my troubles seemed to occur when I left it!), I found that the people I did run into were great rpers and... well, "welcoming" in what I assume is the 'rinth way - which is to say most didn't hesitate to rp and took interest in newcomers, regardless of whether or not it was "nice" roleplay - and I wouldn't have had it any other way!
Come play in the 'rinth you say. It's tons of fun with lots of intrigue you say. Okay I think, wonderful idea...
Three hours of walking around, finding no one, and finding no bar's or places where others might hang out in any case, I'm starting to disagree. And yes I mean three hours quite literally.
In my experience it can sometimes take hours and hours before you stumble upon one of the Rinth's 'active plots.' But the moment you do, you're in over your head and having the time of your life.
Lol, hours and hours of typing e, w, s, and n doesn't intrigue me at all. Thats just ridiculous.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on December 02, 2007, 02:48:19 AM
Come play in the 'rinth you say. It's tons of fun with lots of intrigue you say. Okay I think, wonderful idea...
Three hours of walking around, finding no one, and finding no bar's or places where others might hang out in any case, I'm starting to disagree. And yes I mean three hours quite literally.
The Rinth is a maze... and there are places within it that are bars or player gathering locations, just finding them though is quite difficult. Why? Well, it's the Labyrinth.
Thanks to all that posted information to help me, it's been put to good use already. ;)
Having played nearly 15 characters or more in the 'rinth, on both ends of the power spectrum, I have to agree with jstorrie.
I have spent -days- walking around in those damned alleys, with nothing going on at all. But the moment there is somthing going on, you are WAY in over your head. You will play frantically. It is some of the best RP and plotz you will find in all of Armageddon.
Stick around, and you're bound to get sticked. With a knife. Or stick someone with a knife. And find out that was a bad idea.
Keep at it, we'll find you. Also, you'll note that I did say in my 1st post that we needed players. Have no fear, it's picking up already.
He's right... I walked in a few days ago and well... I'll leave the rest to imagination as I don't wanna give away too many details. Let's just say I'm happy I did.
Alright, changed my mind. The 'rinth is awesome, and very intense. Lots of fun to be had. Come join us.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on December 03, 2007, 02:14:50 PM
Alright, changed my mind. The 'rinth is awesome, and very intense. Lots of fun to be had. Come join us.
I knew I'd see this post sooner or later. ;D
Mwahahahah!!! :D
Just need some GMT players to entertain me now! *waits*
I'm around GMT times since I work 10pm-7am EST -5 GMT. We'll see ;)
I'll try and make myself more accessable then, and see what happens!
...I was under the impression Arm was shutting down, so I've only briefly checked the website in the past month or two. I'll be slinking around the 'rinth again whenever I make a character worth playing :)
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2. DO NOT QUIT OUT SOUTHSIDE. Allanak proper is not your home if you're a 'Rinth rat. Try not to think of the southside as a "safe" area. Remember, that's where the law resides. A 'Rinther wandering around the Commoner's Quarter can look pretty suspicious. Keeping this concept in mind was one of my favorite aspects of 'Rinth play. The home and familiar places of my first character transformed into an alien place fraught with danger through the eyes of my 'Rinther. I loved it.
This might make sense if the 'rinth had a working economy and was built in a more complex manner. Instead it's like the Twilight Zone or Dead Zone. There are necessities you can't find in the 'rinth. So much could be done to the 'rinth:
1) A very rundown hovel of apartments for rent (easily broken into), and a set of more secure apartments for the real thugs.
2) Full set of shops on both sides, or one shop which does it all on each side.
3) More rooftops to climb.
4) More holes in the ground.
5) Buildings which actually make sense, rather than just being a stock room description everywhere. Buildings should be unique.
6) More NPCs, and more flavor to the NPCs. More than one gang, some more fleshing out of the existing gang. For example, the name of the Bloods appears nowhere in the docs that I know of, but these are the most common NPCs in the 'rinth and should be common knowledge. Where is their home?
That's just a short rant. Sorry. Have fun in the 'rinth.
I agree completely. As someone once put it, the 'rinth is made of cardboard. The area encourages, if not actually enforces the occasional trip to the outside; the most prominent example is how water can only be found for sale in one place, at a high price and in a location that may very well get half of the population killed should they go there. But in the end I find that, usually, the reason 'rinthers go southside is because they're tired of waiting many hours (or days, sometimes) between any interaction.
I love the 'rinth and play there frequently, but I could never do so without occasionally leaving the alleys.
I think with the correct amount of players, it is very possible to play in the 'rinth without leaving its walls.
I agree with everything said though, and think it could use major fleshing out (AKA...In the new game, I hope the Shallows live up to its name)
I'd like, in the near future, to develop my little "family" of 'rinithers (not blood, but with a background) Anyone interested?
I should mention I've never actually played a 'rinither, but this is just too good of opprotunity.
I'd be interested, but I still hold a pretty active character at the moment.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on December 02, 2007, 02:48:19 AM
Come play in the 'rinth you say. It's tons of fun with lots of intrigue you say. Okay I think, wonderful idea...
Three hours of walking around, finding no one, and finding no bar's or places where others might hang out in any case, I'm starting to disagree. And yes I mean three hours quite literally.
Glad you found the fun after all ;D
I have played one rinther so far and even though I never really got involved with other rinthers (stupid halfbreed died trying to impress the Guild), I found it immensely enjoyable. One thing that really helped me was to make a map of the rinth right after I started. Its not an easy place to map, but if you put in the effort you'll have more time after those first 2 or so hours to actually start playing and not get lost constantly.
Every single character, spare the one I play currently, has been in the 'Rinth, and I just may have him stored so I can go back.... Is a shame that there aren't really that many crawling the alleys, at least when I was last there. Had a character last almost a month there, and I only saw four or five characters stick around.
I'd come back now that I'm getting past all the stupid(er) newbie mistakes and not dying so much but.. well, I'm still alive and after my last 'rinther I decided I had to try something else so I had a little variety between characters (and I was pretty bummed about that one dying). I'd definately go back at some point though..
Quote from: Kalden on December 23, 2007, 11:44:10 PM
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2. DO NOT QUIT OUT SOUTHSIDE. Allanak proper is not your home if you're a 'Rinth rat. Try not to think of the southside as a "safe" area. Remember, that's where the law resides. A 'Rinther wandering around the Commoner's Quarter can look pretty suspicious. Keeping this concept in mind was one of my favorite aspects of 'Rinth play. The home and familiar places of my first character transformed into an alien place fraught with danger through the eyes of my 'Rinther. I loved it.
This might make sense if the 'rinth had a working economy and was built in a more complex manner. Instead it's like the Twilight Zone or Dead Zone. There are necessities you can't find in the 'rinth. So much could be done to the 'rinth:
1) A very rundown hovel of apartments for rent (easily broken into), and a set of more secure apartments for the real thugs.
2) Full set of shops on both sides, or one shop which does it all on each side.
3) More rooftops to climb.
4) More holes in the ground.
5) Buildings which actually make sense, rather than just being a stock room description everywhere. Buildings should be unique.
6) More NPCs, and more flavor to the NPCs. More than one gang, some more fleshing out of the existing gang. For example, the name of the Bloods appears nowhere in the docs that I know of, but these are the most common NPCs in the 'rinth and should be common knowledge. Where is their home?
That's just a short rant. Sorry. Have fun in the 'rinth.
You serious? There are Bloods in the rinth? Where the fuck are the Crips? Up north?
No, Seriously, I wanna know.
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on January 03, 2008, 09:17:04 PM
You serious? There are Bloods in the rinth? Where the fuck are the Crips? Up north?
No, Seriously, I wanna know.
Find out IC.
No, seriously.
I'm -really- not joking.
....that is funny as hell.
Now I have a reason to hype the game to the homies. Hah.
Seriously.... We need moar players in 'Rinth! It's like a ghost town. :'(
Seriously. If you've recently lost a character. Create a 'Rinther. It's actually fun when you can get more than two or three people hanging around.
And for fuck's sake, DON'T MOVE ON TO ALLANAK OR TO ANY OTHER TOWN!. Stay in 'Rinth! Please?!
You know what else works? If you have a southie character, then have him interect with the 'rinth on some level. You don't have to live there to make it interesting for the people who do. Hmm... Maybe I'll make a rinthi' again after my current Char dies.
Yeah, that's the only problem I have with the Rinth, it's dead... so I haven't been there in a long while. Plus I have other things keeping me busy.
If I see 'rinthis crip walking and flashing gang signs and colors, I am leaving this game.
The gangs in the game already have gang signs and colors. They don't have the walk yet, though, unless you consider that they universally sneak.
It'll be ok.
Quote from: Manhattan on January 06, 2008, 06:02:11 AM
If I see 'rinthis crip walking and flashing gang signs and colors, I am leaving this game.
Hardly any different from Bynners or militia saluting eachother and wearing stripes to show rank.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The population in 'Rinth seems to be going up.... :D
I'm looking for anyone who needs an elven family role in the Rinth filled, or even a human role thats open, preferably mundane. PM me with more info, Thx.
What is the crip walk?
This cat gives a good lesson on how to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWGugGG4EBY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWNkn4PNeVQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXQs92BHTqY&feature=related
Check out his other vids. He C-walks to a number of various beats.
Thanks - can't get to youtube at work, but I will look at them later.
I did check out wiki.
Interesting and odd.
I thought it referred to the whole "backwards pants" thing.
I'm so old.
Haha. Nah, that was the Kris Kross effect.
Fun times. ;D
I had a 15 minute break, so here is a quick slice of life from the alleys-
Lips knew she was fucked, and definately not in the literal sense. That bastard they call Lazy Hand was onto her for making too much black on his terf, and rumor is that guy is connected.
"In these digs you can hear when something bad is going down. It isn't loud, there is no crashing and scratching. No one screams out when they die here. You hear the nothing, and that is when you know it is trouble time. It creeps from window to door, skips off a puddle of piss and hooks the corner to find you fast, like a wildfire. Silence is your best friend and worst enemy here, you don't realize it is too quiet until it is too late... and when you are on the scamp it works out from you like the breath of a prossi. You feel it more than see it, everyone does."
Lazy had to make cut, the Boss was really riding him this week because -He- wasn't making bid to the Big. Not like it was his fault either, that good for scrap up and comer was making sweat for -everyone-. She knew how to work it, the sale, the scam, and would spread'em for enough too. Cornering a small bit from all the markets was no way to make friends, stick where your welcome and get a pimp. Sure, Lazy had to start out somewhere too, but he did it right and sold himself under a pimp like any self respecting prossi. Now all he wanted to do was find her, because once she was knockered around a while he could get his mind right and get back to the sling. Spit rolling around in his mouth felt like sand, and he had a fuck of a time trying to piss for the last week. Not to mention the shakes, so come on woman, let Lazy Hand make it all square and get his fix.
"Yeah, you see dead folk every now and then. They always deserved it. Too old and frail, too young and stupid. Every now and then someone just fucks with the wrong person and is opened up. There are rules, everything here is black or white. Bribes are for Templars from the rich. Rich to the rich. Kank-shit. Up here you fuck up, well, you better be quick in your head and talk your way out of the problem becuase if you start flashing black and bribe all over you'll get every cock-sucker trying to pin you, just for a cut."
So come out, join us and get involved!
Awesome!
@¬@
Jooiiiiinnnnn ussssss.....
My whole problem with the rinth is that there are not enough spaces that are "hidden" from most people.. I've seen characters stalked down by Magickal flying templars on remote rooftops of the rinth. You have like three or four places with closeable doors, but they are easily bypassed and only handful of other areas that either require clan association or group assistance to get to...
My personal feelings of the rinth is that it should be more how it reads... Such a dangerous place that even the templar and militia won't enter... There should be so many hidey holes that you would have to do more trips then four or five to check every "hiding" area... Just my personal feelings.
J-Rod
I personally love how the Rinth is, but as J-Rod said there could be more to it. I think if enough people start playing in there it will be much more criminal friendly and much more scary.
Quote from: Cerelum on January 09, 2008, 05:22:35 PM
My whole problem with the rinth is that there are not enough spaces that are "hidden" from most people.. I've seen characters stalked down by Magickal flying templars on remote rooftops of the rinth. You have like three or four places with closeable doors, but they are easily bypassed and only handful of other areas that either require clan association or group assistance to get to...
My personal feelings of the rinth is that it should be more how it reads... Such a dangerous place that even the templar and militia won't enter... There should be so many hidey holes that you would have to do more trips then four or five to check every "hiding" area... Just my personal feelings.
J-Rod
Yeah, it could use a few more good hiding spots. But if you know where to look there are some -really- good places not many people know about.
Y'know, I'm starting to get the idea that you want more people to play rinthers.
I'm just not sure.
Yes, well, I always thought it was more fun when good players got into leadership roles in the Rinth, whether it be their on gangs or something thats coded, just please I'm begging BE A CRIMINAL with us.
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on January 03, 2008, 09:17:04 PM
You serious? There are Bloods in the rinth? Where the fuck are the Crips? Up north?
No, Seriously, I wanna know.
Read this:
http://www.armageddon.org/original/showSubmission.php?submission=57
Sorry to derail, but is it kosher that anything not in the docs but in the original submissions is common (OOC) knowledge?
I'm not backbiting you, Mansa, I'm genuinely curious. The idea had never occurred to me before.
Quote from: Troicha on January 10, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Sorry to derail, but is it kosher that anything not in the docs but in the original submissions is common (OOC) knowledge?
I'm not backbiting you, Mansa, I'm genuinely curious. The idea had never occurred to me before.
Nothing and Everything is common knowledge. It's up to you how much your character knows.
Considering Marko's The Blood story is over 8 years published on the website... Should your character know about all the different gangs in the 'rinth and their names and symbols? Or should they know that there is more than one? Or should they believe that the 'rinth is just a warzone and everybody kills everybody else and there are no gangs? All are correct!
Quote from: mansa on January 10, 2008, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Troicha on January 10, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Sorry to derail, but is it kosher that anything not in the docs but in the original submissions is common (OOC) knowledge?
I'm not backbiting you, Mansa, I'm genuinely curious. The idea had never occurred to me before.
Nothing and Everything is common knowledge. It's up to you how much your character knows.
Considering Marko's The Blood story is over 8 years published on the website... Should your character know about all the different gangs in the 'rinth and their names and symbols? Or should they know that there is more than one? Or should they believe that the 'rinth is just a warzone and everybody kills everybody else and there are no gangs? All are correct!
Wouldn't it make sense that if you were born and raised in the 'rinth, you'd be reasonably familiar with the gangs and at least their colors? I mean, gang colors and names go international these days here, it seems to stand to reason that a kid growing up on their turf would be aware, if not have relatives that have worked for/been a part of the gangs, or been affected by conflicts between gangs.
Quote from: Silverfaune on January 10, 2008, 01:13:08 PM
Quote from: mansa on January 10, 2008, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: Troicha on January 10, 2008, 09:26:19 AM
Sorry to derail, but is it kosher that anything not in the docs but in the original submissions is common (OOC) knowledge?
I'm not backbiting you, Mansa, I'm genuinely curious. The idea had never occurred to me before.
Nothing and Everything is common knowledge. It's up to you how much your character knows.
Considering Marko's The Blood story is over 8 years published on the website... Should your character know about all the different gangs in the 'rinth and their names and symbols? Or should they know that there is more than one? Or should they believe that the 'rinth is just a warzone and everybody kills everybody else and there are no gangs? All are correct!
Wouldn't it make sense that if you were born and raised in the 'rinth, you'd be reasonably familiar with the gangs and at least their colors? I mean, gang colors and names go international these days here, it seems to stand to reason that a kid growing up on their turf would be aware, if not have relatives that have worked for/been a part of the gangs, or been affected by conflicts between gangs.
Definitely, which is why there's some docs like this:
http://www.armageddon.org/intro/rinth.html
However, should everybody know that information?
Should everybody know the power levels of spells? Or what the reaches mean? No.
Are you suggesting that the 'What you Know - 'Rinth' should be modified to include more background history about the gangs?
Yes and no. I think with a simple email, if you are applying for say a city elf, you should ask if there are any tribes or gangs you can put into your background.
Anywho.
More people would still be nice.... :<
Quote from: Ocotillo on January 09, 2008, 06:57:48 PM
Y'know, I'm starting to get the idea that you want more people to play rinthers.
I'm just not sure.
:o
Read me like a book....
Quote from: mansa on January 10, 2008, 01:24:18 PM
Quote from: Silverfaune on January 10, 2008, 01:13:08 PM
Wouldn't it make sense that if you were born and raised in the 'rinth, you'd be reasonably familiar with the gangs and at least their colors? I mean, gang colors and names go international these days here, it seems to stand to reason that a kid growing up on their turf would be aware, if not have relatives that have worked for/been a part of the gangs, or been affected by conflicts between gangs.
Definitely, which is why there's some docs like this:
http://www.armageddon.org/intro/rinth.html
However, should everybody know that information?
Should everybody know the power levels of spells? Or what the reaches mean? No.
Are you suggesting that the 'What you Know - 'Rinth' should be modified to include more background history about the gangs?
I don't think there should be background history but there should be a way for people that are of the 'rinth to at least have a vague idea of who the major players there are. The commoners in Allanak know who the powers are in the city - they know not to piss off anyone wearing a Templar's robe even if they don't know anything about Templars or how they work. They know vaguely that there are noble houses and even a little bit about what each house is famous for. They know that people wearing black gems are magickers, even if they don't know what they can do. So it seems reasonable that a 'rinthi would know at least about the existance of the major groups that affect their lives and how to identify those who want to be identified, doesn't it?
Otherwise you have newbies like myself getting killed because they didn't know that the person wasn't just dressed funny, but proudly displaying gang colors that should have read "Don't pester me, I've got powerful friends". Sure, there are always naive people around that are just clueless, or there are foreigners that don't know anything and have to learn the hard way, but if I grew up on the same street as a Hell's Angels clubhouse I would certainly know they were there and that they had an impact on things, even if I didn't understand the whys and hows of it.
Quote from: Silverfaune on January 11, 2008, 07:23:24 AM
Otherwise you have newbies like myself getting killed because they didn't know that the person wasn't just dressed funny, but proudly displaying gang colors that should have read "Don't pester me, I've got powerful friends". Sure, there are always naive people around that are just clueless, or there are foreigners that don't know anything and have to learn the hard way, but if I grew up on the same street as a Hell's Angels clubhouse I would certainly know they were there and that they had an impact on things, even if I didn't understand the whys and hows of it.
If you are a newbie to the game or to an area and you do not know what the powerful organizations are or how to identify their members, just assume that everyone is more powerful than you and can kill you -right now- if they want to, and you'll be OK. When I played in the 'rinth and had no clue, that's what I did, and it worked out just fine. You really don't need documentation to help you out with this, just moderately decent social skills and some smarts.
Quote from: Gimfalisette on January 11, 2008, 12:08:00 PM
If you are a newbie to the game or to an area and you do not know what the powerful organizations are or how to identify their members, just assume that everyone is more powerful than you and can kill you -right now- if they want to, and you'll be OK. When I played in the 'rinth and had no clue, that's what I did, and it worked out just fine. You really don't need documentation to help you out with this, just moderately decent social skills and some smarts.
I did this and it worked out fine for me, no complaints here. I was just saying it would also make sense if your character knew the odd thing starting out, my little add-on to what Troicha and Mansa were discussing. I don't think it would detract from the "find out IC" qualities of the game and in many instances it would make sense to have an idea about the more prominent features in your neighborhood.
How about a little blurb reminder like, "And remember, if people are dressing funny, they're probably doing it for a reason."
I'm seeing a lot of dead Rinthi PCs. So some advice:
1: If you have a deep dark secret that might unsettle others, maybe try keeping it deep and dark and secret.
2: Make sure you keep 'nosave arrest' in the 'on' position. This goes double if you are experimenting with doing naughty things southside.
3: Even the apparently wimpy rinthi NPCs can and will kill your character if he or she is carrying around nice stuff. You might be amazed at what a rinthi considers 'nice'.
4: Keep trying. The ever present danger is half the fun in the Rinth -- it can take a few characters before you get the hang of it. And even then, no one is really safe!
Kudos to those of you who are still hanging in. This is starting to turn into a really fun tour of duty in ye old Labyrinth -- the plot is getting thicker!
The Rinth is rocking, whether it's your first time or your a seasoned veteran, come join the fun and play a dirty, flea-butten Rinth-walker. (Limited Time offer)...please void where prohibited...
Quote from: titansfan on January 14, 2008, 10:20:51 PM
The Rinth is rocking, whether it's your first time or your a seasoned veteran, come join the fun and play a dirty, flea-butten Rinth-walker. (Limited Time offer)...please void where prohibited...
Seconded and fully endorsed by me, personally.
Burglars and pickpockets would be nice....
Quote from: Qzzrbl on January 15, 2008, 07:46:20 PM
Burglars and pickpockets would be nice....
Funniest thing ever.
Quote from: Troicha on January 15, 2008, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on January 15, 2008, 07:46:20 PM
Burglars and pickpockets would be nice....
Funniest thing ever.
And sadly true.... We don't need anymore warriors, or rangers. Seriously people.
I heartily endorse the 'Rinth for some gritty and awesome RP. My only hint to new 'Rinthers is do not get attached to your character and never go afk in an alley.
Quote from: Vessol on January 15, 2008, 10:03:24 PM
I heartily endorse the 'Rinth for some gritty and awesome RP. My only hint to new 'Rinthers is do not get attached to your character and never go afk in an alley.
I agree, Never, EVER go afk in the alleys.. Bad idea, I'd say go southside or even save/quit out if your gotta go afk for a few minutes. Also Rinth was always fun for me.. So give it a try if you've never played in it!
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The figure in a dark, hooded cloak is here, bumping the topic.
Having some good fun up in the alleys, but we could always use some more players! Got some fun plots rolling along... but you may need to dig a bit for 'em. Well -I'm- having a great time, anyway, and I want to share the pain with others! So roll up that 'Rinth Rat already and dig in!
My next character might be one. Though my current one has been zooming along for awhile now. The rinth sounds like it would be BADASS if it was active.
Brandon
I adore the Rinth. There is something about combing the alleys for junk to sell in order to buy a sack of flour. I'm just wondering how active it is at the moment. Last time I played it it seemed that the player base has dropped off dramatically. Never mind, my next char will be unfortunate enough to he born there regardless.
At first, I wasn't a fan of this topic. But then I forgot how awesome the 'rinth can be. So. C'mon. If you're inbetween characters or just looking for some rag tag badassery, come to the 'rinth. Plz? k thx bai :-*
I think I'm finally starting to get it that the Rinth isn't a nice place. To put it mildly. And I don't mean NPCs. I like :)
Anybody knows who is the imm responsible for the rinth? I'd like to ask about starting as a member of one of the coded tribes.
Quote from: spicemustflow on February 13, 2008, 01:01:55 PM
Anybody knows who is the imm responsible for the rinth? I'd like to ask about starting as a member of one of the coded tribes.
This must be done through IC means, spicemustflow. Unless you're special apping a character, which can be done through the submit a request tool at www.armageddon.org (http://www.armageddon.org)
Nechomacus and Qetesh are the immortals of the Guild.
Bhagharva and Nechomacus are the immortals of the unclanned.
Take your pick, I guess.
Quote from: Rhyden on February 13, 2008, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: spicemustflow on February 13, 2008, 01:01:55 PM
Anybody knows who is the imm responsible for the rinth? I'd like to ask about starting as a member of one of the coded tribes.
This must be done through IC means, spicemustflow. Unless you're special apping a character, which can be done through the submit a request tool at www.armageddon.org (http://www.armageddon.org)
Nechomacus and Qetesh are the immortals of the Guild.
Bhagharva and Nechomacus are the immortals of the unclanned.
Take your pick, I guess.
You can't join a tribe IC.
Yes, in this instance, I would email in. It is like having a coded tribe, but part of your background. I don't see problems asking or requsting it be in your background, (Correct me if I am wrong).
Eh''' I've had about 50 + rinthers and I've never gotten passed 3days 23hours playing time. It's so frustrating to me sometimes, but it's probably the funnest place I've ever played I just wish I had enough time to make some good friends up there before someone gets mad at me and decideds i'm better dead than alive. Oh,.. and It took awhile to figure out the rinth probably at least 15 characters.
Quote from: Mood on February 13, 2008, 10:14:32 PM
Quote from: Rhyden on February 13, 2008, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: spicemustflow on February 13, 2008, 01:01:55 PM
Anybody knows who is the imm responsible for the rinth? I'd like to ask about starting as a member of one of the coded tribes.
This must be done through IC means, spicemustflow. Unless you're special apping a character, which can be done through the submit a request tool at www.armageddon.org (http://www.armageddon.org)
Nechomacus and Qetesh are the immortals of the Guild.
Bhagharva and Nechomacus are the immortals of the unclanned.
Take your pick, I guess.
You can't join a tribe IC.
That's why I said special app. I thought he meant join a rinth-related organization or something.
I honestly -LOVE- the Rinth. It's given me the best rp experiences of anywhere except maybe with a certain d-elf tribe. But the rinth is great because it's dark, mysterious and always heart pounding. The action's intense, I have always wanted to make something really cool in there. Maybe next character :P
Bumping this. I really want to see the Rinth come to life and spawn some awesome PC characters. When you get some good leaders in there it's an amazing environment to play in.
Heck! Even without any leaders it's awesome...silly me :p
I Support Dirty Rinthers. :d
More rinthers!
You bastards are never around when I need one of you. >:(
Yes, you can join a tribe IC.
Find out IC.
The real deal....
Pound for pound - the Labyrinth is one of the best locations to play on Arm.
Its got its own culture, rules, layout, atmosphere and way of life. The level of RP in the rinth is superb, at most given times, and the social dynamics are very interesting and intriguing as well. The Staff members who have run the rinthi clans (currently and in the past) do an absolutely superb job!
If you havent had a chance to play a rinther before - I would definitely recommend trying it out before Arm 1.0 ends.
I've played many PCs of various races and guilds in the rinth, and I still keep going back for more!
Don't worry next character, I'll be there, my ideas are already over-flowing. :D Just as long as you flea bags don't kill me.....and I'm talking to all of you.
Yeah, I was playing there yesterday but then some asshole just ran up and attacked me without so much as a word. So i said fuck this and left. Kinda hard to wanna play in the rinth when you guys have pcs like that.
That could very well have been an NPC. They -will- take you out for going in the wrong area, wearing the wrong thing, or, possibly, for no real reason whatsoever.
Ah, well in that case, I guess I'll give it a second try...just assumed it was a PC since they had the logic to follow me and look at me.
The rinth is indeed full of bloodthirsty assholes.
So is Allanak.
And the tablelands.
And Tuluk is the worst of all.
;)
Yeah, damn hippy NPC's and their hair-trigger attacks. ;D Unless, of course you ran into the wrong set of PC's and irritated them at a previous time (and they tracked you down), that sounds like an NPC glomp...which is far more common!
As the number of times you perform an action liable to anger someone in the 'rinth increases, the probability of that action being seen by someone who will be angered by it approaches unity.
Pair this law with the observation that most characters in the 'rinth have the ability to remain silently hidden, and you have a recipe for sudden deaths that seem unjustified.
Why? Because not only does the advantage of the attacker lie in being hidden, the advantage of the victim lies in being able to instantly flee and become well-nigh invisible via hiding. This means that if you're going to shank someone, you have to do it so that a) they never see it coming and b) it's so fast that escape is impossible.
That's just the nature of the beast, unfortunately.
Simple solution? Don't piss people off.
Wow, Synth nailed it. That was beautiful.
Also, although it may have nothing to do with this situation; if someone confronts you and you insta-flee without interaction, you just let them know what kind of tactics they need to use next time.
I hate insta-fleeing with all the marrow of my crooked bones. We need a chase command, beyond just making sense it would create some -intense- scenes.
I have never had the problem of some PC just igoing off and attacking me without reason. The playerbase in the Rinth is very mature (usually).
I, myself, never -EVER- just go off and attack a PC without good cause. I love rping scaring someone or creating a haunting scene that the person will look back on a few years from now and go "Damn that was the craziest scene ever". I have had those kind of scenes happen to me in the Rinth and let me tell you I still have them logged to look over from time to time.
It all comes down to whats the coolest way to handle it, i understand if you're putting a hit on someone and you backstab then kill...but how about turning mercy on at the last moment when you know you're gonna win and rp a death scene telling the victim what they have done.....just an idea.
Other than that, i have never really had troubles with NPC's that weren't caused by my own a)greed b)stupidity c)thinking I was a badass when I wasn't
I'd like to chime in here...
Though it often doesn't do much for your survivability, pissing people off is like half the fun of playing a 'Rinther! That doesn't mean you go around backstabbing random people or anything...
But anyway, I've found that if you play it right, fearing for your life and knowing you've stepped on a few toes is pretty damn fun. You just have to be ready for that fun to suddenly end. ;D
If anybody ever gets any sweet family roles they want filled for in the Rinth and want to create an awesome environment for your fellow players just PM me. I have a passion for the Rinth beyond imagining. ;D
I just wanna sneak in and say: The Rinth is always full of crazytimes and who knows, there might just be a buttload of crazy around the corner.
the rinth sucks. don't play there. the rinth is for LOOOOOSERRRRRSSSSSSSSSSS.
Kickback to few posts back - about PC's mobbing people.
In the 'rinth everyone looks the same and sometimes during those jacked-up knife fights and alley chases you don't watch your keywords like you should. I've done it before, it's balls because someone gets ripped off because you were nervous but I suppose it's not all together unrealistic as well, especially when people are in a panic IC.
Dude. I'm there and I'm loving it. Others should come and play with me.
Brandon
My first non-Rinther character is living far longer than I expected! I'll be back eventually, I promise!
;)
The Labyrinth is fun... I just might app a character there sometime...
I'm slooooooowly hobbling over ;D i'll get there eventually, hopefully die trying.
Sadly I've gotten attached to my current character, but man when I get my chance to play here again, the blood of many will cover the alleys.
More rinthers! I still can't find any of you. >:(
None that matter, at least.
Quote from: Akaramu on April 01, 2008, 02:25:09 PM
More rinthers! I still can't find any of you. >:(
None that matter, at least.
Um, aren't you a gypsy?
I've a premonition that there will be a few more...
Off-Peak for the win!
Maybe the gypsy wants to add new flavors to her mudsexing experience? :-[
There is nothing like stealing babies of... rinthers. The rinth, the secret super genepool of Zalanthas.
If any staff members ask, I did not tell you this. It is slightly IC!
From what I hear of gypsies the rinth is the exact place for them. Blood and drugs and garbage all around :).
Seriously, the rinth is ON FIRE now, come and enjoy the carnage with us.
Well.. Not literally on fire... But seriously, lots of people are there. You -want- to play in the wicked shadows the alleys hold.
God I love this game. Join the 'rinth!!!! You won't regret it.
The 'rinth has stuff, and people doing that stuff. Very active now.
JOIN IF YOU DARE! :o
I must be doing it wrong. :-[
I honestly thought that same thing.. Because for some reason I couldn't get NPC's to stop attacking me. Then all of the sudden they just stopped. After not making any changes on my part (I think). Had me really angry too.
The trick, Silverfaune. To keep a lasting character in the 'rinth. Is to special app an uber amazing warrior with even better sneaking skills, then never act like you're anything special.
:)
Really though, just keep trying. If it's PC's that are ganking you, you should probably change up your style a bit. The 'Rinth isn't all about super sneaky players who delve into the darker aspects of the game. Try making a spice addict, just trying to get another fix. Make a character with some serious flaws, because that is what the 'Rinth is all about. Roll up a merchant that doesn't sell illegal things, or fence illegal items. Please, God, make a pick-pocket that just tries to get by. The 'rinth needs those. There really is no limit to what you can do. Just make sure you reflect, and interact with your environment well.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 11, 2008, 11:59:49 PM
I honestly thought that same thing.. Because for some reason I couldn't get NPC's to stop attacking me. Then all of the sudden they just stopped. After not making any changes on my part (I think). Had me really angry too.
The trick, Silverfaune. To keep a lasting character in the 'rinth. Is to special app an uber amazing warrior with even better sneaking skills, then never act like you're anything special.
:)
Really though, just keep trying. If it's PC's that are ganking you, you should probably change up your style a bit. The 'Rinth isn't all about super sneaky players who delve into the darker aspects of the game. Try making a spice addict, just trying to get another fix. Make a character with some serious flaws, because that is what the 'Rinth is all about. Roll up a merchant that doesn't sell illegal things, or fence illegal items. Please, God, make a pick-pocket that just tries to get by. The 'rinth needs those. There really is no limit to what you can do. Just make sure you reflect, and interact with your environment well.
Actually I'm not dead.. yet... this time...
Just having a hard time finding the aforementioned flaming action going on. ;)
Oh. :) People are about, I can assure you. Just stick through and stuff will start happening like crazy. When it starts it really picks up momentum.
Dude, everytime i have been in the Rinth I meet some really amazing people. Whether they be head honchos or snivelling little beotches. I seriously think this is the best part of Zalanthas and I really want it to be more popular than it is.
The 'Rinth wants everyone. >:( (that's the nearest I could find to a devil face, imagine horns on it)
When / If I make my way back to the 'rinth, you are all fucked.
Quote from: Reiloth on April 14, 2008, 02:26:08 PM
When / If I make my way back to the 'rinth, you are all fucked.
We weren't last time! Well. Someone was. Lol.
I'm not afraid one bit....*runs down the alley into a blockaded building*....not afraid at all. :p
Guys!
I got a great idea on how to get more players in the Rinth. Let's find all the 1st day characters we can and backstab them with our twinked up skills. Note: it's important that we don't treat NPCs the same way, because staff might get angry. Let's only backstab PCs!
Good idea, right?
crap double post.
Quote from: number13 on April 16, 2008, 01:22:44 PM
Guys!
I got a great idea on how to get more players in the Rinth. Let's find all the 1st day characters we can and backstab them with our twinked up skills. Note: it's important that we don't treat NPCs the same way, because staff might get angry. Let's only backstab PCs!
Good idea, right?
Bwahah. Go you.
Quote from: number13 on April 16, 2008, 01:22:44 PM
Guys!
I got a great idea on how to get more players in the Rinth. Let's find all the 1st day characters we can and backstab them with our twinked up skills. Note: it's important that we don't treat NPCs the same way, because staff might get angry. Let's only backstab PCs!
Good idea, right?
It would be sad, if it wasn't true 80% of the time.
Quote from: number13 on April 16, 2008, 01:22:44 PM
Guys!
I got a great idea on how to get more players in the Rinth. Let's find all the 1st day characters we can and backstab them with our twinked up skills. Note: it's important that we don't treat NPCs the same way, because staff might get angry. Let's only backstab PCs!
Good idea, right?
That kinda sucks and I feel for you. The 'Rinth -is- a dangerous place and you should make an effort to keep out of the way of dangerous people, especially if you are weak. But it saddens me that 'Rinthers are preying on new characters for the sole reason that it might make your own RP experience in the 'Rinth a lot more interesting if you let them live for a while as you don't get as many players there as other places. There are alternatives for backstabbing newbs for their start coin that would be far more enojoyable for both parties involved, why can't you mug them? Hold them up? Torture them? Make them your bitch?
Quote from: number13 on April 16, 2008, 01:22:44 PM
Guys!
I got a great idea on how to get more players in the Rinth. Let's find all the 1st day characters we can and backstab them with our twinked up skills. Note: it's important that we don't treat NPCs the same way, because staff might get angry. Let's only backstab PCs!
Good idea, right?
And here I thought you were talking about killing all southsiders until they moved north.
For all the talk of non lethal punishment on the boards, players are very eager to react with a weapon in many situation that could be solved otherwise very easily. Yeah, I know the talk: "Respect their IC reasons", but still many are too trigger happy, so to speak. I'd like to thank people who tortured and beat me, strange as it may sound.
Quote from: spicemustflow on April 17, 2008, 10:06:25 AM
For all the talk of non lethal punishment on the boards, players are very eager to react with a weapon in many situation that could be solved otherwise very easily. Yeah, I know the talk: "Respect their IC reasons", but still many are too trigger happy, so to speak. I'd like to thank people who tortured and beat me, strange as it may sound.
Doesn't sound strange at all or ... maybe I'm just a bit sick in the head.
That was one of the things that I hated about the 'Rinth a year ago, because I lost 5 straight pcs at the two hour mark to the same PC's, but it has sorta died down now.
Actually I think that behavior goes beyond the rinth.
I guess I've been lucky and not experienced any "lets kill newbies for fun" type PCs ... ... all the dicks must live down south ::)
Huh.. I just never made myself look like a newbie, I guess. I've -never- had a problem with getting killed by other PC's for no reason. You are doing something wrong.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 17, 2008, 05:13:25 PM
Huh.. I just never made myself look like a newbie, I guess. I've -never- had a problem with getting killed by other PC's for no reason. You are doing something wrong.
I actually wasn't too worried about the results or lead up to the interaction that spurred my post above. I'm 100% positive the other player was not after my newbie gold, is as much as I think I should say.
I'm more concerned with the Rinth as a ghost town. Plenty of Rinthi PCs die to NPCs being asshats, crime code, and silly mistakes. How much should be added to that tally via PK deathes?
On the other hand, the Rinth isn't the Rinth without some good ol' fashioned PKing in the mix. The ever present strong possibly of death is part of the charm of the place.
So it's a balance, and it's hard for me to see where the line is exactly. I'd wish for people to consider allowing the Rinth to fill up a little before the culling begins in earnest.
I find it generally easy to survive. You just have to be wise and play everything out casually instead of killing everything.
Exactly. Take it slow. Don't try to become the leader of the Guild in three days playing time. Keep you goals set in the distant future and just survive.
Another pointer. Get noticed! A bad way to interact is running into a PC while killing some npc or just running away at the first sight of pc turbulence. A great way to interact is the three bars, chill there do something noteworthy. Best pointer dont roll up a freshy character and act like straight up Artemis Entreri (sp) Its actually safer to be that dude in the movie Friday where he goes and says "Ah'll suck yo dick maaaahhhn." and you can add 'For fooood!" Up to the point that becomes annoying, its way cooler than acting a fool. You might find somebody. I -know- its boring. I -know- you may not be ready to play a piece of shit nobody. But hey, you rolled a rinther. Its better to meet people in neutral places, if they get to know you they may not want to kill you because you are nobody, a piece of shit, any other rinther.
Now go. Go forth and die.
Seriously if you play a normla non-murderous PC and are careful the damned NPC's won't bother you. Find someone who knows the Rinth IC as another PC, learn from them Ic and play with them IC. It's dirty and smelly, but not always revolving around blood and murder.
On a side note: We need more city elves. They have been talked about lately and I really think they bring alot to the Rinth. i wanna see the elven tribes of the Rinth become more numerous.
Quote from: titansfan on April 18, 2008, 09:00:56 PM
Seriously if you play a normal non-murderous PC and are careful the damned NPC's won't bother you.
I've logged plenty of hours in the Rinth, and still can't guess with perfect accuracy which items the NPCs will mug you for and which they'll ignore. For example, I've discovered you can take a particular high priced, fairly standard weapon into the rinth with no problems -- but another similarly priced weapon will induce the usual (NPC) suspects into a kill-crazed frenzy.
If you poke your nose around just exploring, you can look forward to getting hit by certain NPCs. Note a newbie to the Rinth -must- wander around exploring, risking running into these NPCs -- or else he simply won't know where the meeting spots and other interesting areas are. If they can't find the meeting spots, they have a harder time find the experienced Rinthi who can show the ropes ICly.
Of the hostile NPCs, one in particular seems to wander, occasionally bumbling into your character on the normal path headed to the only commonly accessible place in the Rinth that is currently being populated by any tavern sitters at all.
That said, I have no problems avoiding death by NPC in the Rinth. I feel my Rinthi characters are safer in the alleyways than they are southside -- as it should be. I'm just taking exception to the idea that the NPCs won't bother a player character. I've seen a mountain of obviously 1st day characters dead at the feet of NPCs. I've met well-roleplayed PCs, most obviously veterans of the game, who I later see dead with an NPC hovering over them.
(and all of their loot usually intact, ironically)
,,,
Quote from: titansfan on April 18, 2008, 09:00:56 PM
Seriously if you play a normla non-murderous PC...
But, I just needed that extra 25 sid!!!! :( :( :( :(
;)
By the way, to the new players, come of those npcs are very realistic. And viscious. It's very likely that if you're getting killed repeatedly by the same guy, it's one of them.
I did actually think the first NPC attacks were from PC's, and sometimes I get confused as to whether the bodies I see are PC's or NPC's. I've found though that (even as a newbie) the PC's that do wander and attack (not the mugging ones, I never dress "up") tend not to be too hard to avoid if you keep moving - it's if I stop in the same room with them for any length of time that I find it's a problem. And then they do tend to be fairly easy to escape from, once you know your way around a little - or even if you don't and you just scurry around like a chicken with your head cut off until you find you've been safe for about ten minutes ;) But maybe I'm just lucky...
I did lose one character to a particularly annoying NPC, but I kinda went afk in the middle of his turf for about um.. an hour. Same way a scrab did me in with one of my other chars :) Other than that, as a complete newbie I've had very little problem staying alive due to NPC or PC attacks, and more problems staying alive due to silly things like falling down wells, going afk in hostile territory, stuff like that. Anyone who has enough common sense not to flash a lot of snazzy clothes/jewelry, not to hang around when you've just tried to rob someone and they've taken it personal, and not to go "Oooh.. a dark hole.. wonder how far down it goes?" when you don't have climb would probably manage as well in the 'rinth as in other areas of the game.
That being said, I do like it when expensively outfitted people leave their corpses around. It's like Christmas.
When I played in the 'rinth, I usually never wore my hood.
BECAUSE I HAD STOLEN THE BEGGAR'S HAT.
Quote from: mansa on April 19, 2008, 02:34:08 PM
When I played in the 'rinth, I usually never wore my hood.
BECAUSE I HAD STOLEN THE BEGGAR'S HAT.
...We are unworthy.
Bumping this thread for posterity.
If you haven't played the rinth, there is no better time than now. I'm not even playing there at the moment, but I imagine some delightful(ly evil) people are.
Quote from: Reiloth on May 31, 2008, 07:17:08 PM
Bumping this thread for posterity.
If you haven't played the rinth, there is no better time than now. I'm not even playing there at the moment, but I imagine some delightful(ly evil) people are.
I'm gonna go ahead and second this. If you stick around and don't run Southside, I assure you, you'll find some interaction of some sort!
Definatly, when playing my rinthi characters, i strangly feel safer in the allyways. When something bad happens southside, i just run north, nine times out of ten, whever is chasing me, will not chase me into the shadows.
Maybe off peak.....
I wandered around, hung in bars, explored everywhere. Rarely saw people.
I tried. :(
I'd like to use this thread to suggest that starting wealth for rinthers should be only enough to buy a moss pasta, a skin of water and a dagger. It's incredibly annoying when I see rinth rats renting out apartments in the south or even, go to the bank.
Quote from: Simple on June 03, 2008, 12:06:02 PM
Maybe off peak.....
I wandered around, hung in bars, explored everywhere. Rarely saw people.
I tried. :(
Coming from an fellow off-peaker. I spent well over a year (nearly two in fact) in the 'Rinth and had an amazing time.
You're not trying hard enough. You gotta remember it's not like Southside, the people you want to interact with are making an effort not to be easily found. It just takes a little patience.
Maybe. I'll try again when I get a nice idea and more time IRL.
Here I go, making a new 'rinth character and I have not seen a single pc all day. Where have all the shadowy characters gone??
Quote from: Ammut on June 15, 2008, 11:43:11 PM
Here I go, making a new 'rinth character and I have not seen a single pc all day. Where have all the shadowy characters gone??
To the shadows?
Hello? Anybody here?
Anybody?
o hai, im in ur rinth, backstabbin ur doods
*bump*
The Rinth looks to be picking up some. Buy one scar get the next -two- -free-. C'mon, where you gonna get a better deal then that? Play the Rinth!
I can't help but finish the title of this post with: to try it's new fried chicken.
The Rinth is absolutely hopping, now is the time to play there....just from all the pointers above the biggest one is be patient, not to find the playerbase so much but just in general....you'll have a blast.
rinther to the core, eh, titansfan? :)
hay guyz i just appd a nilzai can i join ur clan?
Special note: if you like to play an independant badass...don't. You'll get killed. The only way to survive in the rinth is to be constantly sucking someone's disease infested dick or paying them sid out the ass.
Quote from: Zoan on July 28, 2008, 06:07:43 AM
hay guyz i just appd a nilzai can i join ur clan?
ROFL
Things I have encountered while playing in the 'Rinth lately:
- A quirky, interesting, decent-sized cast of characters including petty criminals, crime bosses, elves, humans, half-giants, filthy halfbreeds, and crazy mutants.
- Ample opportunities for employment, not all of them criminal!
- An impressive offpeak population.
- Enough intrigue to keep my character in the 'Rinth--I haven't even gotten the urge to go Southside a once.
Things I have NOT encountered while playing in the 'Rinth lately:
- Pointless backstabbing.
- A single sorcerer.
- A single Nilazi.
- A need to leave the 'Rinth for necessary supplies or interaction.
I agree with all that.
Good amount of players overall in the 'rinth right now.
****Special note: if you like to play an independant badass...don't. You'll get killed. The only way to survive in the rinth is to be constantly sucking someone's disease infested dick or paying them sid out the ass.****
Expect to do nothing except constant pointless RP trying to prove yourself to other players that'll kill you soon as you say the wrong thing. Then die the first time you do. There's an ambiant life in UT and the Rinth that gets ignored, Thus you will always be the "new guy".
Haha. People should stop expecting to be bad ass right off the bat.
Its very possible to be an independent bad ass...But don't act like that when you really are just a 0 day noob.
The 'rinth got me hooked on my first character. Its where its at.
true
I can't imagine waking up in some f-ing crazy ghetto and living through it.... so really it's probably not that unrealistic that I'm
repeatedly murdered. But realisticly I'm not running around trying to get good at killing people in RL either....... But also, character creation is like saying at birth everyone is given these abilities in life.... like we're really all a bunch of murderers and that's what we focus on... I don't worry about my personal killing skillz and hope most people in my town aren't.... Anyways, smoke another bowl.... And wtf I haven't found anyone that smokes spice IG, wierdo's....
Pick a subject that you know IRl, like the bum you pass now and then and have come to recognize, or that poor kid who always has holes in his clothes and just scrapes by because his family is flat broke or the mom is on crack rock or meth. Take that subject and imagine, now, that that subject's life is your character's life. Then add in a ton of more fucked up things, like water not being free, and the near lack of ability to take a normal bath, and add in the shitty manner of how cops treat homeless beggars who sit in front of family establishments, and then imagine that everyone in Allanak proper acts just like that to you - ah, there ... you can start to imagine living in the Rinth.
The 'rinth still wants you!
..and your boots!
I loved the 'rinth. I was pretty sad when I rather stupidly got my 'rinther killed.
It has my stamp of approval. I will probably play there again in the future, hopefully long enough to get involved.
Rinth do need off-peak players too.. Please? ;)
'Rinth's bouncing again.
Nobody's even tried to gank me yet. :o
Till some person comes along and steals your life savings and everything you own. You get so pissed off you run head first into a group of dark cloak wearing manics daggers flying. the end
Quote from: Kane007 on December 23, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Till some person comes along and steals your life savings and everything you own. You get so pissed off you run head first into a group of dark cloak wearing manics daggers flying. the end
No
Quote from: Kane007 on December 23, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Till some person comes along and steals your life savings and everything you own. You get so pissed off you run head first into a group of dark cloak wearing manics daggers flying. the end
This pretty much explains the life of every 0-day badass in the 'rinth.
After losing two other PC's in the rinth I once again created another rinth PC, I am a sucker for punishment...
Quote from: Kane007 on December 23, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Till some person comes along and steals your life savings and everything you own.
That's when it's fun. Be thankful when the tough guys in the Rinth take your stuff/dignity instead of just flat out killing.
Yeah, 'Rinth isn't exactly a good place to "own" stuff.... And have a "savings", unless you've got people to back you up.
Rinth is bouncing again indeed. Come on over, and add your boots to the collection.
Quote from: Kane007 on December 23, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Till some person comes along and steals your life savings and everything you own. You get so pissed off you run head first into a group of dark cloak wearing manics daggers flying. the end
Don't do that. Take it like a man. Survive. Plot revenge. ROLEPLAY.
Quote from: Olgaris on December 25, 2008, 04:04:36 AM
Quote from: Kane007 on December 23, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Till some person comes along and steals your life savings and everything you own. You get so pissed off you run head first into a group of dark cloak wearing manics daggers flying. the end
Don't do that. Take it like a man. Survive. Plot revenge. ROLEPLAY.
YYYYES!
Some of my finest moments have come in the Rinth. Some of my most shamefully assinine, too, but sweet with the sour and all. I heartily reccomend it.
Alas, you will get robbed, molested and betrayed. The rinth is not for pussies or crybabies. So, folks of that particular leaning should play Tuluk.
-WP laughs.
Quote from: Olgaris on December 25, 2008, 04:04:36 AM
Don't do that. Take it like a man. Survive. Plot revenge. ROLEPLAY.
...
I've been playing a Rinth'r and im diggin it!
Need more elven players!!!!!!!!!!! Please!
To add to this:
The city elves in the Labyrinth have a very rich culture to pull from. Email the staff if you want more info, and hopefully, they will reciprocate.
The 'rinth is indeed a happening place. And soon to be even cooler than ever (see weekly update).
Quote from: Olgaris on December 31, 2008, 05:39:57 PM
The 'rinth is indeed a happening place. And soon to be even cooler than ever (see weekly update).
You built new rooms?
Quote12/30/2008: 23 New rooms in Allanak, part of 3D revamp -- Olgaris
Excellent.
See that?
New rooms!
Make a 'Rinther. O:<
I think the most recently created new rooms are southside, and Olgaris is hinting the 3D project will make it's way towards the Rinth soonish.
Maybe.
I saw a couple new NPC's in the 'rinth that helps flesh things out.
I played a 'rinthi character once. That character saw more things, got involved with more plots, and died faster than any of my other pc's. Though stuff might not always be happening there, when it happens, it happens pretty big, and it affects a lot of players.
Getting involved in the 'rinth is generally pretty easier than the rest of the world i've found. Though it does really take a certain mindset. It's not kill or be killed, it's more like kill or be [censored]
Interesting.
Quote from: Searanox on January 02, 2009, 10:52:50 AM
Getting involved in the 'rinth is generally pretty easier than the rest of the world i've found.
Depends. Sometimes you have inclusive players in the Rinth, sometimes you have paranoid shut-ins.
For the record, now is a good time to roll a Rinthi, if you want to be involved.
Everything in the Rinth is rising up....leadership gallore. Plenty of great oppurtunties both to make something out of your character and to experience great rp.
'Nak in general, b'tches.
It's where it's going down.
When Suk-Krath goes down for the day.
The 'Rinthi rats come south to play.
;)
Quote from: Qzzrbl on January 03, 2009, 02:58:20 PM
When Suk-Krath goes down for the day.
The 'Rinthi rats come south to play.
When upward soars the bloody moon
they leave their heads, and go back home.
Beautiful. *sniffle*
I am scared to play a 'rinther character. From what I've heard, it's a place where people are skulking about, ready to backstab you and take your stuff. Also, the thieves. I heard that just sleeping for a few minutes in an alley could get you stripped naked.
That's why you don't sleep in the alleys. Find a safe place to sleep out of sight...
I had one in the works. Fully completed. Even filled out that character generation thingy I found on the GDB somewhere. Went so far as to bug a helper for some assistance with the background. But then I found out the rinth isn't so populated. Decided not to bother. Somebody PM me when there's at least 10 active rinthis that aren't total twinks.
Quote from: Zira on January 07, 2009, 05:07:53 AM
I had one in the works. Fully completed. Even filled out that character generation thingy I found on the GDB somewhere. Went so far as to bug a helper for some assistance with the background. But then I found out the rinth isn't so populated. Decided not to bother. Somebody PM me when there's at least 10 active rinthis that aren't total twinks.
Define 'total twink'.
Quote from: Reiloth on January 07, 2009, 05:27:50 AM
Quote from: Zira on January 07, 2009, 05:07:53 AM
I had one in the works. Fully completed. Even filled out that character generation thingy I found on the GDB somewhere. Went so far as to bug a helper for some assistance with the background. But then I found out the rinth isn't so populated. Decided not to bother. Somebody PM me when there's at least 10 active rinthis that aren't total twinks.
Define 'total twink'.
I don't want to lose my shoes while I'm standing, or get instaganked the moment I lose my connection. I've heard of both. I want to have a chance, even if it's slim, to survive. I want to RP at least a little bit before giving somebody my newbie sids via death.
If I can't get the above, I'll forever believe the rinth not worth the time... especially considering I put more effort into the rinthi PC than any other PC I've made on any MU*.
Quote from: Zira on January 07, 2009, 05:50:33 AM
Quote from: Reiloth on January 07, 2009, 05:27:50 AM
Quote from: Zira on January 07, 2009, 05:07:53 AM
I had one in the works. Fully completed. Even filled out that character generation thingy I found on the GDB somewhere. Went so far as to bug a helper for some assistance with the background. But then I found out the rinth isn't so populated. Decided not to bother. Somebody PM me when there's at least 10 active rinthis that aren't total twinks.
Define 'total twink'.
I don't want to lose my shoes while I'm standing, or get instaganked the moment I lose my connection. I've heard of both. I want to have a chance, even if it's slim, to survive. I want to RP at least a little bit before giving somebody my newbie sids via death.
If I can't get the above, I'll forever believe the rinth not worth the time... especially considering I put more effort into the rinthi PC than any other PC I've made on any MU*.
Don't knock it till you try it. That's my motto, with all things.
You may have -heard- these things happen.
I have seen, over years of play in the Labyrinth:
-Some of the best RP in the entire game in the Labyrinth.
-Some of the least amount of 'twinking' "Hey man, you want to spar?" "No, asshole, I am trying to scrape by for a slice of bread!"
-Some of the least amount of 'ganking'. That's mostly the NPC's jobs. Anything else is perfectly logical in a cesspool of rotting bodies and moldy food (Sometimes the same thing!)
-Some of the most chilling, frightening, scary moments in Arm history. Ever.
-Some of the coolest culture / background, especially with the Guild and Elvish tribes.
-Some twinks. They're everywhere in Zalanthas.
-Some hedonistic bards.
-Some nihilistic elves.
-Some fanatic half-elves.
-Some Player Run gangs.
-Some idiots.
-Some n00bs.
-Some corpses.
Honestly, give it a try, you might be surprised.
Yes, you will not find 30 people sitting in a tavern. But the days where the Labyrinth is on, its like a furnace of non-stop action.
Also -- The thing about the Labyrinth is it is a quick turnover. It is one of the most dangerous parts of the World. A character with over 15 days played is much rarer than in the city proper.
Another word of advice, that you can take or leave: Don't invest as much time in writing up elaborate backgrounds for characters. Give them something vague, something specific to work off of, sure. But don't detail everything to the T. Let playing in Armageddon take care of that, and leave it to the bio command to -really- fill out who your character is.
Trying out my first and lovin' it. One of the best times I have had in Arm thus far. :-*
Unfortunately, Zira, deaths while linkdead do happen. I've lost more than one character while disconnected, but letting a few bad experiences (which may or may not have even been PK--until I get my account notes, who knows?) sour an entire geographical area is a little silly.
I think in order to play a game like Arm, you have to grow a bit thicker skin than other MMO players simply because when your buddy accidentally typos and one-shot PKs you in an Arm raid, you die for good.
Provided you play enough and/or go through enough characters...
You will lose characters while disconnected; you will lose characters to bugs/typos; you will lose characters to the unfair and possibly rule-breaking actions of other players. Sometimes, resurrections are granted. Sometimes, they aren't. However, if you play enough, you're bound to encounter these things. And they can happen anywhere, not just the Labyrinth. The best you can do is play responsibly on your part and trust other players to do the same.
I think you're much more likely to lose characters link-dead outside the city than in the 'rinth. But I wouldn't know :P Still, I heard it's dangerous if you're rich. There's a good reason most clans whip you a lot for entering.
Not wanting to enter the 'rinth because you don't want your character who you spent a lot of time on to die is silly. Everyone spends a lot of time on all their characters. And all of them will die. Half the deaths will be stupid and pointless. Getting ganked by someone in the Labyrinth who's practicing backstab is no different than getting robbed and killed by a raider or being thrown into the arena because a 'Naki templar doesn't like the way you walk.
You have two kinds of twinkery in the 'rinth.
One is the pc's that go to a place for nonstop, backstabbing action and pk to amp themselves up. While they may end up with a tough character if they manage to survive the NPC's and local, big dicked crime boss they're not very hard to outsmart.
The other is the experienced, spec-app or karma pc that gets scared over losing his l33t character and starts doing lame shit because of it. It happens with alarming regularity once you get in a conflict with one of these pcs and they consider you dangerous. In the 'rinth, my favourite place to play along with Storm I've had the finest, truly zalanthan rp I feel is available in armageddon. I've also been attacked my high-tier karma magickers while linkdead and been lamishly attacked by NPC's in control of a spec-app PC. Without all the rules of a city, people get scared and do lame shit.
But when you can expect it, nothing really to worry about it. A PC will show it's players colours very quickly and then you know the rules of the game they're playing, if you survive, and can respond accordingly. Or you can take it a step up and let your PC die to lameass tactics in the name of good rp and have a special place in rp heaven with all the martyrs who without praise of imms or players have sacrificed beloved PC's to this cause. I've done both over the years, bending the rules to take out someone who has already been doing it is pretty satisfying... but not really what armageddon is about, I guess.
My longest lived PC was in the 'rinth and to a Templar simply because I didn't run or attack where I could have because I needed out of arm OOCly and wanted to go out with a bang. It's a great, dangerous place and while there's no garunteed rewards for formula gameplay like other parts of the game if you do put a system of checks and balances on yourself, get connected with some other PC's and find some tactics that work for you combat-wise you can do just fine. You will die eventually, and it may not be satisfying because chances are you got fucked over with little chance of retaliation but that's life... er death, whatever.
I love posts that just keep rehashing and restating the entire thread, good job, roughneck. At least you all got to hear about my great experiences, I must have a big penis.
I'm pretty much in agreement with Zira.
I've lost enough two-hour characters to twink assasins in the labyrinth. (not to npc's, I know the difference)
When I was a newb and still learning the game I've been lured into the labyrinth and killed. Twice.
and I've been attacked while linkdead in the labyrinth.
I've also been spam stolen from in the labyrinth.
I'm not saying that this experience is universal, I'm just saying that I've had enough and I'm not about to give it another shot.
I suppose everyone has different experiences. I'm glad my first is turning out well.
I think every time I've died in the rinth, it's been in public places where the room desc's had a crapload of other vnpc's sleeping--and my character just happened to be a PC, so they got ganked.
I've played in the rinth pretty much exclusively. It makes me unhappy to hear some people avoid it like the plauge. For me, its the metaphorical equivalent of sitting in a warm room with my pants off sipping iced tea (nice!).
Sure there are assholes there. Dont doubt that I may have been one of them. Having no limit to what you can do besides pissing off the entirety of the 'rinth and having them claw you down is one of the most thrilling things ive ever experienced. It can be boring, It can be lame, but most of the stories I tell about arm are generally of crazy shenanigans that go on in there. Where the mugger pc starts shit and ends up dead. Or when this inept looking, rag bedecked man you always see just sitting around doing nothing just annihilates some poor fool who picked a fight with the wrong dude. Ugh, so epic. It takes a little skill to survive there and it doesnt always involve twinking. A tip i'd like to inject is that the fastest people ive seen get dead are the ones who twink endlessly. So that jerk that backstabbed you once probably got his in the end. If you end up dying, you forgive the killer. If you dont, You get revenge. Its the 'rinth. The only law is basically how long you can hold onto a roller coaster with no safety gear. If you've got a grudge, hold it ic. Just survive first.
The -only- reason twinks are ever allowed to prevail in 'Rinth is because of a low player density.
Contrary to popular belief, the Labyrinth is not an all-out murderfest -- there can be rules, but with nobody around to mob together to omgwtfpwn troublemakers who backstab NPCs and players for no real reason, rules cannot be made and enforced.
So by having experienced players outrightly refuse to enjoy the awesomeness 'Rinth has to offer at its best we're just leaving gaps for newbie twinks to fill.
:(
It's sad, really.
Believe me, if your twinking in the rinth. Backstabbing npc's or pc's like it's just the cool thing to do. It's only a matter of time before your seen doing it and are dealt with.
Quote from: The Archbishop on January 08, 2009, 10:38:14 PM
Believe me, if your twinking in the rinth. Backstabbing npc's or pc's like it's just the cool thing to do. It's only a matter of time before your seen doing it and are dealt with.
And if we had more people, twinks would more likely be caught.
;)
I'm assuming that one of the best things about playing in the 'rinth is that you could actually kill the twinks, not just yell at them on the GDB? Anyway, if a guy's going around killing innocent children, that's a huge enough IC reason to gangkill them. Sounds like PK heaven :P
You've got to love the hypocritical subtext of all of this.
::)
Edited to add: The vast majority of these 'rinth avengers seem to in fact be twinks who managed to get it done while nobody was looking. Upon getting buff enough, then they start to get all self-righteous about what you can and can't backstab.
Quote from: Synthesis on January 09, 2009, 01:15:56 AM
You've got to love the hypocritical subtext of all of this.
::)
Edited to add: The vast majority of these 'rinth avengers seem to in fact be twinks who managed to get it done while nobody was looking. Upon getting buff enough, then they start to get all self-righteous about what you can and can't backstab.
Agreed. Twinks can be awesome roleplayers too.
Quote from: Synthesis on January 09, 2009, 01:15:56 AM
You've got to love the hypocritical subtext of all of this.
::)
Edited to add: The vast majority of these 'rinth avengers seem to in fact be twinks who managed to get it done while nobody was looking. Upon getting buff enough, then they start to get all self-righteous about what you can and can't backstab.
Probably because there weren't enough people in 'Rinth to group together and take care of power-skilled twinks, so they had to twink in order to become more powerful than other twinks who come along.
Again, the twinkery stems from lack of players.
I've never actually had a character killed by another PC in the rinth; probably random and unusual luck, but it always seemed to me that due to the very low amount of players in the area, most will do what they can to involve you in long-term roleplay rather than kill you for the sake of it. I'm sure there are code-twinks, just as there are everywhere else, but the vast majority of them tend to die off long before they become a factor - unlike the other type of twinks, those who choose to ignore docs, racial guidelines, common sense and IC/OOC barriers to further their cause, which I think is worse because they're normally allowed to do so for as long as they can bother playing their characters. I've found precious little of this in the rinth, probably because most players specifically choose this area because of its culture and thus adhere to it more readily than elsewhere.
I just have to say that while I've only been here a little over a year now and haven't gotten into everything (by far), I have had several characters in the 'rinth and it remains my favorite place. Things are more violent there, and if you don't like living constantly looking over your shoulder, the 'rinth isn't for you. It's not safe and it's not nice... but that just makes things that much more intense. My next character will totally be back there.
And of the several characters I've had there, btw, only one has been pk'd - and if I'd been smarter I wouldn't have been. The rest died to my stupid newbishness, mostly outside of the 'rinth, or to mobs when I went ld in the wrong place.
From what I've seen, most of the twinks in the rinth don't actually play in the rinth, they just use the lawless place as a means to buffing their skills up. But twinkery has been going on forever, it's not gonna stop. People just like characters get self righteous and decide what they want people not to do even if they themselves do the same damn thing. Not to mention everyone has their own viewpoint on what is twinking and what isn't. I'm just gonna say everyone is a twink one way or another.
Speaking as the player of several previous Rinth scavengers, I can tell you that I've found and pilfered numerous dead pcs by following the trail of dead npcs. They don't get away with it. They eventually run into one of the npc gang clans and get annihilated no matter what their apparent, twinkish power level is...and I've been all too happy to pick them clean and pawn off all their items for my pc's next year of meals.
Of these pcs, only one of two of these pcs knew which end of a blade was which, and I've found that they never needed to learn how to fight--just flee. Surviving in the Rinth is not difficult. Look like crap, dress like crap, move through the alleys regularly for loot but always go back to the pubs to rest and you'll be fine.
I should also add that it's even better to be in a clan like Sandas or the Haruch Kemad. There, you have your turf and allies in addition to being able to do all of the above. I speak of Eastside examples because, more often than not, I've played a city elf. The Guild is pretty cool too, but I've only played with them twice.
I would love to see a lot more emphasis and attention given to the Rinth by both players and imms alike. I also hope that there is some equivalent to it in Arm II, since it's one of the most unique and interesting settings in rp environ I've ever played in. It would be a shame to lose it.
'Rinth still wants you, btw.
I'll go there next then.
How's the off-peak play in the rinth right now? The kid's been let loose in the candy store, and doesn't know what to get!
Quote from: Zira on January 17, 2009, 07:43:06 PM
How's the off-peak play in the rinth right now? The kid's been let loose in the candy store, and doesn't know what to get!
Off peak is awesome for the 'rinth. App up before you miss the chance.
I've decided. As long as I get at least some RP, I'll probably keep to the rinth for a few characters. C'mon! Let's see some more RPing rinthers!
I've decided much the same.
I want to see if I can make it 'till 2.Arm.
8)
Still though.... 'Rinth needs moar people.
:-[
The 'rinth needs more things to do.
Quote from: mansa on January 20, 2009, 08:21:09 AM
The 'rinth needs more things to do.
I think I played the 'rinth to death :(
Quote from: mansa on January 20, 2009, 08:21:09 AM
The 'rinth needs more things to do.
>backstab rat
>backstab elf
>backstab boy
>backstab man
>backstab dwarf
>backstab mul
>backstab giant
>backstab tektolnes
>get power-up
>win game
The game needs more things to do. I still haven't got past backstab mul, though. You know what'd be great? Villains.
37 players online and it looks like I'm the only one in the 'rinth :(
I did meet someone here in the 4 or so RL hours I've spent here. I'd kudos her if only I got a look at her sdesc ;)
Don't sneak around everywhere, jerks!
Cloak dude stealthily moves east.
Cloak dude arrives from the south.
Doesn't look at me. (Peek? Who cares.)
Cloak dude stealthily moves into the sky and explodes like a firework.
Take a leisurely stroll gaiz!
Dan...those may not be pcs if they're not interacting with you.
Nah, they were PCs.
I was probably just standing there idle and they thought I was an NPC.
Don't bother with the whole argument of how do I really know, they were PCs.
Oh, lol, I found one! I didn't see him, just heard him. And probably he didn't see me when I sneaked back to the area. Yes, gaiz, take a leisurely stroll!
Quote from: audrey on January 21, 2009, 02:04:51 AM
37 players online and it looks like I'm the only one in the 'rinth :(
Allanak in general has been pretty quiet for the past couple of months. It's not uncommon for the city proper to be devoid of visible PCs with as many as 25-40 online. I think those northern douchebags are luring people with cookies and revealing clothes.
... and pure awesome.
... and bunnies.
... KILLER bunnies.
Quote from: Good Gortok on January 21, 2009, 11:36:23 AM
Allanak in general has been pretty quiet for the past couple of months. It's not uncommon for the city proper to be devoid of visible PCs with as many as 25-40 online. I think those northern douchebags are luring people with cookies and revealing clothes.
The current incarnation of the game can't really support 2 major cities taking into account the size of the playerbase but that's a whole another thread. When one is up the other is down and vice versa. And when both are sort of middling it's a bit dull in both in my opinion.
I dont get you guys. No matter what city I am currently in, I always end up figuring out a way to get into trouble. It's a significantly more complex to do in Tuluk, I agree. But Nak ... devoid of people? Only during 'major' RPTs elsewhere, and that usually lasts a day or so, tops.
I agree with Dar....I always find stuff to get into or plan against or find someone to harass or get harassed by. Both cities are rocking in my opinion right now...really there are so many things you can possibly do in ever sense of the game, you just gotta use your imaginations folks :p
Laadedaaa.
'Rinth still lurves youuuu.
More things are happening, 'Rinth is bouncing again.
No twinks in sight.
:o
That's because they're all spam sneaking! Zing!
/lame, over-used 'Rinth joke.
Edit: P.S., I miss youuuuu, 'Rinth. Glad to hear things are shaking in the alleys.
They are? I couldn't tell...
Quickly!
While all the newbz are testing out the NPCs in Undertuluk!
Roll up a 'Rinther!
:D
Remember kids, just because you live in the rabbit-holes of the happy pink fuzzy bunny-hugging society doesn't make you any less of a happy pink fuzzy bunny-hugger.
Maybe a little paler, but I digress.
;D
Come on people, show the 'Rinth some love. :(
I miss the 'rinth :-\
Quote from: SMuz on March 25, 2009, 04:18:21 AM
I miss the 'rinth :-\
So make a character there.
:P
I have a character there. Or do I? ;) I'm just not there coz obviously, all you guys aren't.
Yes, the 'rinth still wants you guys.
MISS RINTH :'(
And a couple of others. :(
It wouldn't be the same anyway i guess.... :'(
I too miss the 'rinth.
I don't miss you, RG. >:(
I miss the abandoned homes being trapped with flash powder.
Those were the days.
Quote from: Maso on March 25, 2009, 06:47:43 PM
I don't miss you, RG. >:(
Yeah, well I miss killing you. Can't wait to see you again IG. We should app something together!
You wish you killed me!
The 'rinth is bumping pretty well right now. I'm getting interaction with all sorts of people every time I log on. I suggest anyone with a desire for fast-paced adventure to get in this maze, now!
Quote from: Archbaron on April 10, 2009, 02:04:35 PM
The 'rinth is bumping pretty well right now. I'm getting interaction with all sorts of people every time I log on. I suggest anyone with a desire for fast-paced adventure to get in this maze, now!
Fast-paced, indeed. If only this holiday weekend would end so I can log back in... :(
'Rinth needs moar love.
JOIN NOW OR I WILL EAT YOUR BABIES!
But on a more serious note....the Rinth really needs some love. And those players in the Rinth now need to be able to habor new folks instead of whacking them all off. This is a vital part of the game world and it should be incorporated more than it is being now.
Or go to Undertuluk!
*ducks*
Quote from: titansfan on June 12, 2009, 02:14:29 PM
And those players in the Rinth now need to be able to habor new folks instead of whacking them all off. This is a vital part of the game world and it should be incorporated more than it is being now.
Depends who you come into contact with. Some people are in fact more harboring of new folks than you might think. Please don't make generalizations like that. There are always a couple players that can't see past killing someone for a few smalls in the 'Rinth, outside the gates, UnderTuluk, etc. You just need to find the right people to interact with.
I think the 'Rinth could definitely use some more players, and there are characters based out of there that are in fact very harboring of new characters, and you shouldn't pass up playing in the 'Rinth because you think you'll be killed within a few hours. You could, yes, but that isn't the goal of most characters I come across.
Quote from: elvenchipmunk on June 14, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
Quote from: titansfan on June 12, 2009, 02:14:29 PM
And those players in the Rinth now need to be able to habor new folks instead of whacking them all off. This is a vital part of the game world and it should be incorporated more than it is being now.
Depends who you come into contact with. Some people are in fact more harboring of new folks than you might think. Please don't make generalizations like that. There are always a couple players that can't see past killing someone for a few smalls in the 'Rinth, outside the gates, UnderTuluk, etc. You just need to find the right people to interact with.
I think the 'Rinth could definitely use some more players, and there are characters based out of there that are in fact very harboring of new characters, and you shouldn't pass up playing in the 'Rinth because you think you'll be killed within a few hours. You could, yes, but that isn't the goal of most characters I come across.
Correct.
Get involved with the people who are harboring new characters, and you'll soon find out those pansies who want to mug you every five seconds won't be around for long.
Play in 'Rinth.
Great starting location for newbies, surprisingly.
If I didn't have a PC right now, I'd definitely give it another try.
Quote from: iWhiskey on July 22, 2009, 08:56:19 AM
Great starting location for newbies, surprisingly.
It's pretty easy to make a living in the 'rinth, scavenging for..."parts." You might call it "newbie scavenging." ;)
Quote from: hyzhenhok on July 22, 2009, 03:43:15 PM
Quote from: iWhiskey on July 22, 2009, 08:56:19 AM
Great starting location for newbies, surprisingly.
It's pretty easy to make a living in the 'rinth, scavenging for..."parts." You might call it "newbie scavenging." ;)
;D
I need more boot....errrr, I mean, yay, newbs come play Rinth!
;)
Come play in the rinth so you can debate whether or not to hang out in the Gaj.
'Rinth is good.
Among my favourite characters of all time was a 'rinther thug who mugged people and found himself involved in plenty of alley wars and knife fights.
Maybe one day I'll return to those familiar, grimy alleyways.
Rinth! Rinth! Rinth! Rinth!
rinthrinthrinthrinth
Rinthrinthrinthrinthrinthrinth!
Quote from: FantasyWriter on July 23, 2009, 01:32:30 AM
Come play in the rinth so you can debate whether or not to hang out in the Gaj.
Whenever I app a rinther, I never find anyone else! You all lurk! Or I smell! Either way - meh.
One who says Meh to the rinth obviously did not appreciate the summer of 2007.
EDIT:
>nudge Qzzbrlly and titansfan
Summer of '07... summer of '07...
Hey, I think that's the summer I set my own personal record for most times consecutively being eaten alive while trying to play in the rinth!
Quote from: IAmJacksOpinion on July 30, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
Summer of '07... summer of '07...
Hey, I think that's the summer I set my own personal record for most times consecutively being eaten alive while trying to play in the rinth!
Getting eatten alive aduring that time alone made it worth it to play in the 'rinth.
NOBODY MEH"S THY RINTH!
Prepare for a slow and painful death.......by smell!
You can't get a 'I GOT KILLED IN THE 'RINTH' Tee if you dont play there.....
SO DO IT!
The Rinth: Come for the spice; stay because we just cut your fucking legs off and clubbed you in the head with them!
Quote from: Kol on August 01, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
You can't get a 'I GOT KILLED IN THE 'RINTH' Tee if you dont play there.....
SO DO IT!
I never got a shirt, and I got killed there -twice-! >:(
Quote from: Zoltan on August 04, 2009, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: Kol on August 01, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
You can't get a 'I GOT KILLED IN THE 'RINTH' Tee if you dont play there.....
SO DO IT!
I never got a shirt, and I got killed there -twice-! >:(
You probably have to loot it.
That said, if I ever play there and live easily, I'll have some stern words for you folks. I'm really expecting to log in and get backstabbed before I can even type "score."
Sounds kinda cool.
Quote from: Thunkkin on August 04, 2009, 11:47:57 PM
Quote from: Zoltan on August 04, 2009, 11:44:30 PM
Quote from: Kol on August 01, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
You can't get a 'I GOT KILLED IN THE 'RINTH' Tee if you dont play there.....
SO DO IT!
I never got a shirt, and I got killed there -twice-! >:(
You probably have to loot it.
That said, if I ever play there and live easily, I'll have some stern words for you folks. I'm really expecting to log in and get backstabbed before I can even type "score."
Sounds kinda cool.
If you haven't been backstabbed in the 'Rinth, you aren't playing it right. ;) Incidently, neither of my deaths there were due to backstabbery... in your face, would-be assassins!
I've been backstabbed in the 'rinth by a PC.
He lived to regret it. Not me, though.
Quote from: mansa on August 04, 2009, 11:53:15 PM
I've been backstabbed in the 'rinth by a PC.
He lived to regret it. Not me, though.
True story. o:
Man I can't wait to post some logs.....
PLAY IN 'RINTH!
I backstabbed mansa in the 'rinth.
I totally got away with it, though.
I backstabbed Mansa in the APM. Totally got away with it until I shoulder-checked YellowShirtGuy.
They 'rinth still jumpin'?.... or stabbin' rather?
If you're having problems not playing the "nice guy", FW, I suggest the rinth. Play there for a week or two and you'll come out a gritty one-eyed swashbuckler.
edit: If you survive that long. ;)
My last few 'rinth experiences have been pretty hit or miss. However, I can say that recently, it seems to be sustaining a fairly active PC population, FW. It just depends on your playtimes, I'd imagine.
There seem to be 'rinthis active (not necessarily in the 'rinth) when there are 20/30+ players on. If you stick around the 'rinth for a few days, I'd imagine you'll find some sort of PC interaction.
"There aren't enough players in 'Rinth!"
Biggest excuse I hear when people tell me why they don't play in 'Rinth.
Wouldn't be a problem if people started regularly making characters there.
I hear this a lot in clans. 'I'm storing as nobody seems to be in this clan,' when you can BE that guy who's in the clan. It just takes a little resolve. Hell, I bet I could make *Fale* the most kicking clan in Zalanthas if I joined that House and made an image.
Amen.
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Quote from: number13 on August 29, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Yeah. People who do this and are reading this post.....
Stop doing that.
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 29, 2009, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: number13 on August 29, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Yeah. People who do this and are reading this post.....
Stop doing that.
Hypocrite much?
Yes, rinthers really should stop renting apartments southside and keeping their money in the bank. I've seen a lot of that, it annoys me.
Quote from: Synthesis on August 30, 2009, 02:56:06 AM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 29, 2009, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: number13 on August 29, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Yeah. People who do this and are reading this post.....
Stop doing that.
Hypocrite much?
I actually had a specific reason for that though.
There is much for you to find out IC my friend. ;)
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 30, 2009, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on August 30, 2009, 02:56:06 AM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 29, 2009, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: number13 on August 29, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Yeah. People who do this and are reading this post.....
Stop doing that.
Hypocrite much?
I actually had a specific reason for that though.
There is much for you to find out IC my friend. ;)
I think so do the majority of rinthers who flock southside. You southsiders just need to make it more difficult for rinthis to stay southside for any long period of time. If it is safer in the alleys, then people will stay. As it stands, you get better profit, are safer, get to be a part of civilized society, and likely get more interaction from going southside. All legitimate reason I say to move southside.
Quote from: Semper on August 30, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
I think so do the majority of rinthers who flock southside. You southsiders just need to make it more difficult for rinthis to stay southside for any long period of time. If it is safer in the alleys, then people will stay. As it stands, you get better profit, are safer, get to be a part of civilized society, and likely get more interaction from going southside. All legitimate reason I say to move southside.
I'll admit it's been awhile sense creating my last 'rinither, but it seems rather hard to make life difficult for anyone -- what with connections and politics and all.
Quote from: My 2 sids on August 30, 2009, 11:50:32 AM
Quote from: Semper on August 30, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
I think so do the majority of rinthers who flock southside. You southsiders just need to make it more difficult for rinthis to stay southside for any long period of time. If it is safer in the alleys, then people will stay. As it stands, you get better profit, are safer, get to be a part of civilized society, and likely get more interaction from going southside. All legitimate reason I say to move southside.
I'll admit it's been awhile sense creating my last 'rinither, but it seems rather hard to make life difficult for anyone -- what with connections and politics and all.
I'm not talking an independent allanak citizen making it difficult for them, but the powers that be. After all, what made rinther's go to the rinth in the first place? Cause they couldn't pay taxes or their debts and had to find some other place. The current way things run in Allanak takes nothing like that into consideration, so when rinthers decide they want to go back to Allanak proper, they have nothing to worry about when returning, except some good old 'nakki hate for them.
I'm not making any statement or anything, just saying there's a lot of interaction to be had with rinthers if even one or two people with influence wanted to do so.
And of course it is a bit different for a rinther with his/her own connections returning to the southside. Usually there's been enough preparation beforehand to ensure the goals are met during the visit... at least in theory.
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 30, 2009, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on August 30, 2009, 02:56:06 AM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 29, 2009, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: number13 on August 29, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Yeah. People who do this and are reading this post.....
Stop doing that.
Hypocrite much?
I actually had a specific reason for that though.
There is much for you to find out IC my friend. ;)
Maybe everyone else has a specific reason for it, too.
Quote from: Synthesis on August 30, 2009, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 30, 2009, 07:09:52 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on August 30, 2009, 02:56:06 AM
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 29, 2009, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: number13 on August 29, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Plenty of people make rinthi characters....
...then make a rush to see who can defect to southside the fastest. It's been that way for as long as I've played the game.
Yeah. People who do this and are reading this post.....
Stop doing that.
Hypocrite much?
I actually had a specific reason for that though.
There is much for you to find out IC my friend. ;)
Maybe everyone else has a specific reason for it, too.
Possible.
But other than, "Oh shit, I keep getting jumped for this 1000 'sid piece of fancy gear I bought southside." it's doubtful. But still possible.
I guess.
I would like to see more 'Rinthi hate in Allanak though. From the citizens, more specifically.
I've noticed people are entirely too quick to befriend rats.
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 30, 2009, 07:07:27 PM
I would like to see more 'Rinthi hate in Allanak though. From the citizens, more specifically.
I've noticed people are entirely too quick to befriend rats.
But you're just so gosh-darned wuvable! *gushes*
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I've noticed people are entirely too quick to befriend rats.
It's up to the rats (and the dwellers of UT) to take advantage, and prove why that's a bad idea.
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I've noticed people are entirely too quick to befriend rats.
It's up to the rats (and the dwellers of UT) to take advantage, and prove why that's a bad idea.
This is an excellent point.
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I've noticed people are entirely too quick to befriend rats.
It's up to the rats (and the dwellers of UT) to take advantage, and prove why that's a bad idea.
This is an excellent point.
Perhaps we could get crackin' on this if people roll up more 'Rinthers.
Total derail, but Qzzrbl, I love your avatar. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy and makes me want to watch the fish stroking for hours.
Back on subject and in response to:
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 31, 2009, 11:12:12 AM
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I've noticed people are entirely too quick to befriend rats.
It's up to the rats (and the dwellers of UT) to take advantage, and prove why that's a bad idea.
This is an excellent point.
This happens already though I'm not entirely sure how widespread the rinthi-loving culture is. The same argument could be made for any section of the game (like people trusting elves). I haven't actually experienced a lot of rinthi love in all my years of playing, being that a lot of clans would flat out refuse to hire rinthis, or perhaps the leaders in said clans just made it a policy.
I know when I played a leader in Nak, I wouldn't hire a rinthi on the basis that they were from a diseased hive of scum and villainy. Though outside of that I mostly ignored them unless they somehow came to my characters' attention, or somehow not ignoring them proved beneficial in some way.
It does make me sad when 'Rinthers flock south for more than a brief outing here and there, however. But on the flip side of the coin, having played in the Rinth, it can be difficult to play in or find the wherewithal to want to play there if you are a social player and the Rinth is mostly or seems mostly empty. And sure there might be 3 people sneaky sneaky shadowing you around, but if they're doing nothing to interact with you, there might as well be no one else there.
And while the environment is supposed to be rather bleak, grim, filthy and depressing, it also seems a little empty with some people (especially those totally unfamiliar with the area) having to go south just to acquire the necessities for life. And I don't mean 1000sid silk cloaks. Just food and water and perhaps scrape up a few coins here and there.
But still, if you are looking for a bleak, miserable and very gritty place to roll up a character, and a bit of a challenge, come to Red St- I mean the Rinth. I do have to agree with Fathi on the hit or miss thing, when it misses it's miserable, but boy, when it hits, is it a barrel of spiced-up monkeys.
Should make it more realistic for the slums of Ivory and Black then, limit the amount of coin they get to -maybe- 100 at start up, and run with it.
FORCE them to be sneaky and shady and beggars.
Quote from: shadeoux on August 31, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
Should make it more realistic for the slums of Ivory and Black then, limit the amount of coin they get to -maybe- 100 at start up, and run with it.
FORCE them to be sneaky and shady and beggars.
I'd support this for UT, given a few minor skill bumps as compensation, as surviving with zero coins is possible for a knowledgeable/clever player. I'd also support merchants in lawful areas refusing to deal with lawless characters (and certain sellers in lawless areas refusing to deal with someone who isn't from the neighborhood.)
The problem in the Rinth is that you can't feed/water yourself as a starting pickpocket. Off-peak, you probably couldn't survive as a beggar either.
Quote from: number13 on August 31, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
The problem in the Rinth is that you can't feed/water yourself as a starting pickpocket. Off-peak, you probably couldn't survive as a beggar either.
Sure you could. I played a 'rinthi who survived off of no skills at all. Anyone and everyone can "get" and "offer."
But, the reasons 'rinthis go southside, or Undertulukis go topside, don't have much to do with starting coin. It's much, much more about the desire for social interaction and plot involvement. And after that, probably it's about using the protection of the crime code to hide out and heal from injuries sustained in lawless areas.
I think a beg skill would be cool... I had a character on another MUD once who lived almost exclusively off of it, and it was probably my favorite feature of said MUD.
So the main problems of UT and 'Rinth are underpopulation.
How do we fix this folks?
Make more characters there.
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 31, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
So the main problems of UT and 'Rinth are underpopulation.
How do we fix this folks?
Make more characters there.
It really comes and goes, like any area of the game; even Tuluk and Allanak can feel underpopulated at times. What helps to populate an area is strong leaders who are making plots happen; or, the direct involvement of imms to change coded stuff in an area (players think "ooh shiny!" and show up to check it out). Of course, it doesn't help that we are still an average of 50 unique players per week down from this same period in 2006. All areas feel less-populated as a result.
back on point...
Everyone come play in the Rinth! It's the new Tuluk, but without the red Bruce Lees and the frigid White Ladies.... and the thieves and assassins don't pretend to be bards.... we do have our own UnderRinth, though. :D
Quote from: Gimfalisette on August 31, 2009, 03:57:16 PM
Quote from: number13 on August 31, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
The problem in the Rinth is that you can't feed/water yourself as a starting pickpocket. Off-peak, you probably couldn't survive as a beggar either.
But, the reasons 'rinthis go southside, or Undertulukis go topside, don't have much to do with starting coin. It's much, much more about the desire for social interaction and plot involvement. And after that, probably it's about using the protection of the crime code to hide out and heal from injuries sustained in lawless areas.
I think it makes a lot of sense for rinthis to go southside and Undertulukis to go topside, if only to exploit the richer area of town.
But remember, for every 'successful' rinthi you see southside, there's probably ten others who've died trying to make it big.
Quote from: Rhyden on August 31, 2009, 04:39:19 PM
I think it makes a lot of sense for rinthis to go southside and Undertulukis to go topside, if only to exploit the richer area of town.
I agree with you there. It just doesn't make sense for them to stay there--i.e. to sleep there, rent an apartment there, eat there, otherwise conduct their lives there. IMO, 'rinthis and Undertulukis should see the 'rinth/UT as home, and southside/topside as the place to which one commutes for work.
I think 'rinthers should feel about going southside like some desert-elf tribes think about going into cities. You duck in, do business, and get back out. You don't stick around long enough for people to realize you're there, because sticking around is likely to either get you caught by the authorities, blamed for someone else's crime, or basically caught up in other people's business. Rinthers should have a -purpose- going Southside, because they should have everything they need to survive in the Labyrinth.
"The Rinth - Come to help me move something real quick; stay because you've got no boots to walk out of here in."
Quote from: Qzzrbl on August 31, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
Make more characters there.
Just rolled my 'Rinthi character. Having a blast so far.
The 'Rinth -also- wants you to stop thinking you can train on NPCs....
It never ends well.
Quote from: Qzzrbl on September 03, 2009, 10:36:01 PM
The 'Rinth -also- wants you to stop thinking you can train on NPCs....
It never ends well.
UT agrees with this sentiment.
It *should* never end well.
But if PCs stopped training on NPCs, who would I have to train on?
Quote from: Qzzrbl on September 03, 2009, 10:36:01 PM
The 'Rinth -also- wants you to stop thinking you can train on NPCs....
It never ends well.
Yeah, it's much cooler to go out and join a clan southside for a while and spar up, then go back to the alleys as a certified badass. ::)
Can't alley rats spar each other? I've seen that happen a few times in a certain place in the 'rinth.
Quote from: Cutthroat on September 04, 2009, 08:41:04 AM
Can't alley rats spar each other? I've seen that happen a few times in a certain place in the 'rinth.
When they happen to be around and allied, sure. In the Rinth, as well, there's usually no IC reason not to go knock over NPCs in opposing gangs (or southsiders at night), aside from fear of reprisal. The idea here is to expect that reprisal, because it should come around sooner or later.
I'm liking the fighting pits of the Shallows of Basal. Clears up this problem, and another.
Pewf.
Rinth sucks!........pffffft! HAHA......I honestly just had to say it just to see how it felt, and I was right, it's silliness........RINTH_POWER!!!
Only 15 pages? Doesn't the 'rinith want me any more?
i just joined the 'rinth after my last pc tried to shake hands with a Mek.
So far... npc's are trying to kill me when i walk into some rooms. it's fun!
Ummmm, me gusto mucho le Rinth? Do I need to say anymore?
I'm currently on personal hiatus, but my next character will be a 'rinther. How about you?
Played one briefly not too long ago. Look forward to doing another soon.
Be careful what you wish for.
i played me a rinthi lasted a bit longer then my Bynner, heh. it was alot of fun, i'll be back to the rinth soon enough. just trying out many differant aspects of the game.
http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,36679.0.html
The 'rinth really doesn't want you. At all.
It sure wants your bootless corpse though.
I heard the sewer rats even codely take boots from the corpses now. NEWB BOOT RAT HUNT!
Am I wandering the rinth at the wrong time when you're all napping, or is it just quieter than the last time I was active there? Wondering if I should lurk more or try a different plan!
Quote from: Kyviantre on December 03, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
Am I wandering the rinth at the wrong time when you're all napping, or is it just quieter than the last time I was active there? Wondering if I should lurk more or try a different plan!
Try a different one?... :D
Scan.
Oops, I accidentally all the PCs.
wtf... happened. I'm not even sure how to describe the 'rinth right now without flaming everybody my PC ran into.
Sounds pretty normal to me.
Quote from: Gobbleneck on December 07, 2009, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: BlazinDayz on December 07, 2009, 03:12:34 PM
Sounds pretty normal to me.
Blah.
Usually you never run into the "cool" rinthi PCs until they want to meet you. *shrug*
Give it some time... there might be one just around the corner.
;)
'Rinth is full of twinks.
Is this the -cool- place to be now?
By my calculations, the cool place to be is Tuluk.
The hot place is Allanak.
Quote from: Spider on December 07, 2009, 03:31:33 PM
Give it some time... there might be one just around the corner.
;)
Not anymore.
AHAHAHA!
Quote from: Gobbleneck on December 07, 2009, 03:08:16 PM
wtf... happened. I'm not even sure how to describe the 'rinth right now without flaming everybody my PC ran into.
Wow.... you are totally right. :-[
It's not that bad.
Jez.
?
It's really not that bad at all, as far as I've noticed....
The Rinth always wants us! How come we never want the Rinth!!!??? This seems like an all take and no give relationship.....:( Poor Rinth.
If you're gonna make a character in 'Rinth, try to keep it alive for -at least- a week, yeah?
Can't expect the PC population of the alleys to jump up to interesting levels overnight, y'know.
I've brushed paths with the labyrinth but never played inside. Well when I was a noob I went around backstabbing everything before an imm killed me, that doesn't count. The RP from those players is always stellar, especially recently. I just feel like -I- would be stifled in an area like that after awhile, but the possibilities are endless I think. I highly encourage this.
The 'rinth is fun!
:D
Protip: Don't idle out in the open.
Shit happens when you do that.
Just a friendly reminder. ;)
God forbid you should suddenly have to go AFK for something.
One of the many reasons I hate playing classes that don't have hide or invisibility.
I've honestly never had a bad time in the Rinth.
Quote from: Synthesis on December 14, 2009, 10:01:16 PM
God forbid you should suddenly have to go AFK for something.
One of the many reasons I hate playing classes that don't have hide or invisibility.
Well considering 'Rinth has more quit rooms clustered in one area than in any other part of the game (As far as I've noticed, could be wrong (Barring apartments)), it's generally not a huge deal.
I think people are frightened of playing in the Rinth. Maybe that's why the deadness of the place.
I'm intrigued now but unfortunately I just sent an application to make a new character. However, she is, overnight due to the disaster, suddenly alone without a family, heavily traumatized and pocketed with burns.
I want to take part in the Rinth now, but as a regular commoner, am I allowed to? Actually, does anyone from the Rinth want to include me in their plot, as an outsider from normal Allanak? I'm dying to be in a plotline and all this talk of how awesome the Rinth is intrigues me. I play a character that has no ties with anything, save that I am not a Rinther and would be hard-pressed to enter that place, like any goodie Allanaki.
Quote from: Cind on December 16, 2009, 07:54:26 AM
I want to take part in the Rinth now, but as a regular commoner, am I allowed to? Actually, does anyone from the Rinth want to include me in their plot, as an outsider from normal Allanak? I'm dying to be in a plotline and all this talk of how awesome the Rinth is intrigues me. I play a character that has no ties with anything, save that I am not a Rinther and would be hard-pressed to enter that place, like any goodie Allanaki.
Are you allowed to take part in the 'rinth, as a southsider? Absolutely. 'Rinthers are either born in the alleys, or they come up from Allanak out of desperation. 'Rinth has things that Allanak proper doesn't, and doesn't have things that Allanak has (like templars and soldiers patrolling the streets), and there are plenty of good reasons to go to the 'rinth for what it has or what it doesn't have. Don't be surprised if you have trouble fitting in as a "newcomer" around people that were born in the alleys, though.
Will you be included in plots? The only way to find out is to go there.
Just a heads up Cind, generally we aren't supposed to talk about our recent PC's or try to set things up IC, using the discussion board. We prefer to handle all of that completely inside the game.
I don't mean to be mean or anything, just letting you know since you seem new. I hope you're having a lot of fun though! Welcome to Armageddon!
I've always viewed the Rinth as downtown Orlando, right where the bayou meets the suburbs....except less tropical.....people always trying to mug you or shoot you unless you belong to a specific group or gang. But even then people are still trying to gut you like a pig.
I started this thread and haven't said anything since. So...come to the rinth! It's great..it's fun. I love it, and it makes me feel like a proud parent to see my thread growing so big. *sniff*
The 'Rinth is still a happenin' place, dudes and dudettes.
Quote from: Cind on December 16, 2009, 07:54:26 AM
I think people are frightened of playing in the Rinth. Maybe that's why the deadness of the place.
I'm intrigued now but unfortunately I just sent an application to make a new character. However, she is, overnight due to the disaster, suddenly alone without a family, heavily traumatized and pocketed with burns.
I want to take part in the Rinth now, but as a regular commoner, am I allowed to? Actually, does anyone from the Rinth want to include me in their plot, as an outsider from normal Allanak? I'm dying to be in a plotline and all this talk of how awesome the Rinth is intrigues me. I play a character that has no ties with anything, save that I am not a Rinther and would be hard-pressed to enter that place, like any goodie Allanaki.
This reeks of "the grass is always greener" syndrome. There's likely to be good players and fun plots anywhere, places like the 'rinth don't get any more because it's the 'rinth.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on December 16, 2009, 10:24:07 PM
There's likely to be good players and fun plots anywhere, places like the 'rinth don't get any more because it's the 'rinth.
Less play, probably. It's more difficult to latch on to the plots in the Rinth besides, because everyone is busy being sneaky. Or busy being dead.
Cind -- check out the Byn. It's cliche and all, but that's where you're going to find easy access to plots and (usually) (hopefully) plenty of other players to interact with. Or, go for a merchant or noble house that seems to have a reasonable number of active players.
Quote from: musashi on December 16, 2009, 09:39:39 AM
Just a heads up Cind, generally we aren't supposed to talk about our recent PC's or try to set things up IC, using the discussion board. We prefer to handle all of that completely inside the game.
I don't mean to be mean or anything, just letting you know since you seem new. I hope you're having a lot of fun though! Welcome to Armageddon!
Truth... Find out IC. ;)
Quote from: Cind on December 16, 2009, 07:54:26 AM
I think people are frightened of playing in the Rinth. Maybe that's why the deadness of the place.
I'm intrigued now but unfortunately I just sent an application to make a new character. However, she is, overnight due to the disaster, suddenly alone without a family, heavily traumatized and pocketed with burns.
I want to take part in the Rinth now, but as a regular commoner, am I allowed to? Actually, does anyone from the Rinth want to include me in their plot, as an outsider from normal Allanak? I'm dying to be in a plotline and all this talk of how awesome the Rinth is intrigues me. I play a character that has no ties with anything, save that I am not a Rinther and would be hard-pressed to enter that place, like any goodie Allanaki.
join usss
I don't think anyone realizes how many HOT CHICKS live in the 'rinth.
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on December 17, 2009, 03:11:19 PM
I don't think anyone realizes how many HOT CHICKS live in the 'rinth.
That's a joke, right?
Unless you mean 'hot' as in 'she's a rogue krathi, omg' hot, then yeah. I guess so.
He forgot to mention you'll need to shave them completely and sand-blast their skin... and possibly perform some field dentistry... ;D
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on December 17, 2009, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on December 17, 2009, 03:11:19 PM
I don't think anyone realizes how many HOT CHICKS live in the 'rinth.
That's a joke, right?
Unless you mean 'hot' as in 'she's a rogue krathi, omg' hot, then yeah. I guess so.
Shhh! You're ruining my plot to steal people to the 'rinth! ;)
Besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder; some guys like disfigured women with lots of missing teeth. Oh baby...
I want the rinth. It's smokin' hot.
Quote from: Aaron Goulet on December 17, 2009, 03:50:35 PM
Besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder; some guys like disfigured women with lots of missing teeth. Oh baby...
It's not the missing teeth I'm worried about. It's the extra ones you can't see.
I think Delirium knows what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Wasteland Raider on December 17, 2009, 07:33:59 PM
It's not the missing teeth I'm worried about. It's the extra ones you can't see.
I think Delirium knows what I'm talking about.
Oh man, thanks for the reminder...
Is this a vagina dentata reference?
Even better: Wikipedia delivers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapex#Jaap_Haumann)
p.s. "minor" penectomy? Talk about an oxymoron.
Quote from: Synthesis on December 17, 2009, 08:05:04 PM
Is this a vagina dentata reference?
Even better: Wikipedia delivers. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapex#Jaap_Haumann)
p.s. "minor" penectomy? Talk about an oxymoron.
As awful as that sounds - there is something serious fuct about south africa:
Quote from: wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa)
It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read.[2]
I say break out the Jaap Haumann.
Whenever I have a southsider, I always end up visiting the 'rinth if I have an IC reason to. The hardest part is remembering that that four large helmet you just bought is -easily- worth the effort it would take to kill you for it.
Over. And Over. And Over.
Everybody loves the 'rinth because you can kill shit with bone swords.
Quote from: mansa on December 23, 2009, 09:35:13 PM
Everybody loves the 'rinth because you can kill shit with bone swords.
I usually find myself being the one who gets kilt, because I dress too much like an NPC.
The 'rinth will be my next grave site.
Quote from: Delstro on December 23, 2009, 11:09:06 PM
The 'rinth will be my next grave site.
Good luck finding a place where you can buy a shovel. ;D
Quote from: jmordetsky on December 17, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
Quote from: wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa)
It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read.[2]
Sounds like Zalanthas, amirite?
Quote from: Reverend Green on December 24, 2009, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: jmordetsky on December 17, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
Quote from: wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa)
It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read.[2]
Sounds like Zalanthas, amirite?
Would be without consent rules.
-nod-
Edited for Zalanthan accuracy.
Quote from: wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_South_Africa)
It is estimated that anyone born in Zalanthas has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read.[2]
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1sRWoane9lw/SXLRLsWQoUI/AAAAAAAABR4/76ApkjO_x4I/s320/ah+go+on.jpg)
Sold me, I want to get as far away from stupid plains ox as I can.
I would play in the Labyrinth but the day wait for making a character kills me and I know I'd likely die my first day there and be at the back of the line all over again. :P
Quote from: AClockworkMelon on March 27, 2010, 04:15:39 AM
I would play in the Labyrinth but the day wait for making a character kills me and I know I'd likely die my first day there and be at the back of the line all over again. :P
Try it, it's a good time for being a rinther. It could be a good experience. It's not more dangerous than being a ranger for example.
Quote from: spicemustflow on March 27, 2010, 08:25:48 AM
Quote from: AClockworkMelon on March 27, 2010, 04:15:39 AM
I would play in the Labyrinth but the day wait for making a character kills me and I know I'd likely die my first day there and be at the back of the line all over again. :P
Try it, it's a good time for being a rinther. It could be a good experience. It's not more dangerous than being a ranger for example.
Lol. ;D I barely started playing. Getting water into my waterskin took me a fair few minutes. I doubt the 'Rinth is as unforgiving.
Maybe when I'm a badass veteran like you fellas I'll take a stab (har har) at it. ::)
Come on, man, dive in. Your next x characters will die anyway, here your death won't be in vain, you'll feed many hungry mouths.
(http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp132/Evil_Rich/Waterboy_2.jpg)
I'm scared. :-[
But OK, that picture can't be argued with. My next character will be, for good or bad, a 'Rinther. Gotta wait for them to get around to storing my current though (no, I'm not trying to store it as a result of this thread).
I've read a lot of the stuff linked to in this article and others (What you know; Why I hate the 'rinth; etc), any other tips for me? I really do having a sinking feeling that I'm going to die in the first few hours of gameplay and I'll have to wait an whole 'nother day to play. :'(
Advice I would give anyone before going into the bad part of town at night(anytime in the rinth):
YOU ARE ALONE! (unless a member of one of the two coded clans in the Rinth or an unaffiliated gang of PCs)
Being alone is a bad thing, unless you plan on going completely unnoticed, so finding a gang to run with would be a good thing.
The law avoids places that dangerous, so don't expect them to come help you.
Don't pick a fight unless you know you can win it.
Don't wear expensive stuff that will get you mugged.
Unlike the rest of the world, what someone is wearing is NOT a determining factor of how badass they are.
Generally speaking, humans gravitate toward the west side, elves the east; everyone else is going to have a rough time either way.
Almost everyone there (PC, NPC, & VNPC) is a member of some faction or another (or they wouldn't still be alive), and they won't like you going around attacking/killing/stealing from their bro's.
FW's advice is spot on. Follow it and you may live. For you, though, a small fix:
Quote from: FantasyWriter on March 27, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
Don't pick a fight unless you know you can win it.
Have fun!
I've read elsewhere that stealthing is basically the only option? Is that the case? My inexperience with the syntax will likely lead to me bumbling that up and I'd rather play a basic character who doesn't have a whole lot of skills to manage until I learn the basics.
Quote from: AClockworkMelon on March 27, 2010, 03:20:12 PM
I've read elsewhere that stealthing is basically the only option? Is that the case? My inexperience with the syntax will likely lead to me bumbling that up and I'd rather play a basic character who doesn't have a whole lot of skills to manage until I learn the basics.
Any class can be fun in the Rinth. I've played... 10ish PCs there, and only one of them was ever a "sneaky" class.
OK, great. I'll get to work thinking of a character concept. See you all there.
You'll have fun, trust me! The death toll in the Rinth only rose 58%, to a small 99%! It's totally safe!
My first characters were made in the 'rinth as a learning process.
Honestly, it was great. I enjoyed nobody cutting me any slack and punishing my newbie cutthroat ways.
Was immersive as hell to me.
Sure, you'll most likely be learning the hard way, but that's the best way to get you involved in the game.
Hand-holding ftl.
Quote from: Saellyn on March 27, 2010, 03:44:21 PM
You'll have fun, trust me! The death toll in the Rinth only rose 58%, to a small 99%! It's totally safe!
-applies chloroform-
Quote from: Gobbleneck on March 27, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
My first characters were made in the 'rinth as a learning process.
Honestly, it was great. I enjoyed nobody cutting me any slack and punishing my newbie cutthroat ways.
Was immersive as hell to me.
Sure, you'll most likely be learning the hard way, but that's the best way to get you involved in the game.
Hand-holding ftl.
I'm just worried that I won't get to play at all, because I'll just be playing for an hour, dying and then waiting a day for a new character, then dying quickly again, rinse, repeat, etc.
Nothing should kill you if you follow FW's guidelines there.
I'll keep all the tips in mind and try to remain optimistic, then. ;D
I'm the local hand-holder. If for some illbegotten reason we happen to meet up, and I can tell you're clearly a newbie, I'll grab you by the hand, fit a leash on your neck, and take it from there.
You'll be totally safe until a dozen PCs corner us. Then you're the bait xD!
With my first ever PC I started in the 'rinth. Totally clueless as to what RP was even...But! The awesome PCs in there began showing me the ropes and I eventually became part of the Guild. This noob character went on to live 23 days playtime and was part of some seriously awesome shit.
Thankyou Shorty.
Here I go... ;D
I just spent ten minutes talking and emoting to an NPC.
I thought it was a player.
>.<
Quote from: AClockworkMelon on March 28, 2010, 03:11:33 AM
I just spent ten minutes talking and emoting to an NPC.
I thought it was a player.
>.<
That's the spirit!
Dude, you don't admit that! The staff were probably sitting there watching, like, "Dang, this kid's got some RP skills, so determined to interact with this NPC..." *+karma*
My only rinthi PC ever lived a good long while, and only died because the guild sent her southside.
And because she was a halfbreed, and wanted to impress them. :P
QuoteMy first characters were made in the 'rinth as a learning process.
Honestly, it was great. I enjoyed nobody cutting me any slack and punishing my newbie cutthroat ways.
Was immersive as hell to me.
Sure, you'll most likely be learning the hard way, but that's the best way to get you involved in the game.
QuoteI'm just worried that I won't get to play at all, because I'll just be playing for an hour, dying and then waiting a day for a new character, then dying quickly again, rinse, repeat, etc.
These two statements remind me of my first, oh... 50 PCs?
Why so many Jack? You ask:
1) I ran my mouth to everyone, and didn't join up with anyone. (I still do, but I've got enough experience to survive it for a while at this point.)
2) I forgot that just because I had a skill, didn't mean I was efficient with it. IE, I would threaten people, banking on the belief that I could just play for 10 hours and max out my backstab, and kill the prick tomorrow.
3) I couldn't gauge combat at all. If you're outnumbered, flee. If they whittle 15 hp off you, and you haven't even knicked them yet - flee. You aren't going to win.
4) I lurved to train on NPCs. Some of these guys are very tough, and many of them have friends if you're unlucky (and don't have scan.)
5) The proper response to "Gimme all a'ya sids, ya feck or I stab ya!" is "Yes, Sir. Would you like my boots as well??"
In short, socialize before you try to test the combat system out. This has led me to burn through dozens upon dozens of characters in the early days.
Otherwise, enjoy. From what I've witnessed, it seems like there's a lot of good folks to play with bumping around, and a good variety too. (Not just an endless sea of "sneaky types" which you sometimes get up there.)
I should probably eat my words.
Next character is a 'rinthi.
Hopefully this time I won't get backstabbed on hour 2.
Quote from: AClockworkMelon on March 28, 2010, 03:11:33 AM
I just spent ten minutes talking and emoting to an NPC.
I thought it was a player.
>.<
Dude, talking to NPCs is like the best way to solo r/p. I spent about an hour last night talking to myself and a bartender who couldn't respond, but rather than emote for him I acted like the depressed wreck I was and cut him off because in reality he wouldn't want to know my sob stories and I would be aware of this.
If there's a person to speak to, real or not, you can play off of them (so long as it suits how you want to play).
Also: Think and Feel. Discovered last night that those are brilliant for really getting inside your character's head.
As for the Rinth. Without a doubt I'll be playing there once my current guy goes the way of Jimmy Hoffa (buried in a desert somewhere). Although he's proving to be a tenacious little character at present.
After being on my long vacation from Arm, I will be back and terrorizing the members of the Rinth population with colorful roleplay and the plague......be afraid.
... of the plague. TitansFan couldn't terrorize a naked, resting, linkdead newb half-elf merchant / house servant with no-save all on, and no arms (of both the weapon AND limb variety.)
For real though, he's got the plague.
I can terrorize....>.>....small children and jozhal....give me some credit.....
lol dood that jozhal wuz ded on the side of teh ivory salt rode when u fund it !!
I once saw a jozhal get so frightened of titansfan, it fled on sight.
... Wait.
For reals, though, the 'rinth is a hoppin' place to be right now. I will totally newbie-hug your pants off. Not to mention your 'sid, water, food, spice, and boots while I'm at it. Mi scuzi.
Quote from: Ashes on April 12, 2010, 03:25:11 AM
I once saw a jozhal get so frightened of titansfan, it fled on sight.
... Wait.
For reals, though, the 'rinth is a hoppin' place to be right now. I will totally newbie-hug your pants off. Not to mention your 'sid, water, food, spice, and boots while I'm at it. Mi scuzi.
*coughs*
Quote from: Potaje on April 12, 2010, 03:49:22 AM
Quote from: Ashes on April 12, 2010, 03:25:11 AM
I once saw a jozhal get so frightened of titansfan, it fled on sight.
... Wait.
For reals, though, the 'rinth is a hoppin' place to be right now. I will totally newbie-hug your pants off. Not to mention your 'sid, water, food, spice, and boots while I'm at it. Mi scuzi.
*coughs*
Potaje has an excellent point. The 'rinth is also home to some excellent roleplayers right now.
I am Jack's train of thought while reading Asheseseseses' post:
QuoteI will totally newbie-hug your pants off.
think How much?
QuoteNot to mention your 'sid, water, food, spice, and boots while I'm at it.
Think Oh.
Just ask around. My newbie hugs are top-notch.
Quote from: titansfan on April 10, 2010, 03:31:01 AM
I can terrorize....>.>....small children and jozhal....give me some credit.....
I can't wait to nom you. When i'm back in the rinth. Some day.
Quote from: Reiloth on April 16, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: titansfan on April 10, 2010, 03:31:01 AM
I can terrorize....>.>....small children and jozhal....give me some credit.....
I can't wait to nom you. When i'm back in the rinth. Some day.
You'll never go.. NEVER!
Oh dear beloved alleys of Allanak...It has been so long since I walked in your sweet stench. How I pine for thee.
Just started here - having a blast so far :D