Armageddon General Discussion Board

Some people seem to detest adaptations of common swear words, producing things like "shet" and "feck" or "fekk".

Let's plump the depths of the discontent here.

I don't care, though I have difficulty reacting to it as though it were as foul as real swearing, and suspect most others do too.

Hate them, just seem silly.

And have no backing IG, like What exactly is Shet? Plus, no OOC backing, so, simply carries no weight with the player making it more work to react like its a real swear word. Sorry, just cannot react to somebody saying kankfecker...Kankfucker on the other hand.

And just makes the world less harsh...I mean, Supposed to be a harsh world, why soften up the grittiness...specialy considering its a text based game...like adding pink bunnies to the picture.

I say, if your character is prone to utter profanities, then go for it. Spell the damned word out. In some games, the admins have actual policies against profanities. But those policies don't exist in Armageddon so I see no reason to type "fek" when I mean "fuck."

Zalanthas is really New Zealand.

Are ya injoyen yoursilf in 'nak ye piece o' shet kunkfecker?

I don't really have an opinion, but IG, I attribute them saying "shet" as "shit" with an accent.

I used to hate them.

But now I love them for some reason.

Fek is better then fook.

They're just part of an accent, to me.

Some people ask ye if y'wanna go t'th'Barrel fer a swig o' ale.

Some people just call you a kank-feckin' piece of shet.

Same thing.

I always assumed people doing that were doing it to add to their PC's accent, not circumvent actually cursing.

'Feck' is an interesting case, because I have seen it used so often by hardly anyone other than 'Rinthi PCs, that I have come to associate it with that accent. It's very jarring to me to see a southsider or a Tuluki bust out with 'feck' and 'fecker' because I so strongly associate it with the 'Rinth.

Slightly lame, but not so much that I'd rag on people for it.

It's weird for me, if I'm cursing AT someone I will go ahead and freely tell them to fuck off. If I'm cursing for flavor, I tend to use the Zalanthan Feck, or sometimes Fack. Never used shet, because it sounds retarded, and I always imagine it pronounced in spanish, which is probably retarded on my part.

Personally, I hear feck -far- more often than I hear fuck in-game.

Shet is ridiculous and I've thankfully never seen it used.  If you're looking for the feck equivalent to shit I would suggest using shite.

For shet and feck, I just assume it's an accent thing. I had a character that said feck instead of fuck before. It was just the accent; the two words had the same meaning for him.

I don't have a preference either way, though.

I would use feck and fuck, shit and shite equally in real life. So I use them equally in Arm. That's just my dialect.

I don't give much about it but then I do not understand why it is so hard to throw a "Fuck" or a "Shit" so that people go around funny ways.

If it is an accent of the PC though, then it is slightly more understandable.

But remember though, my characters never, ever swear.  Honest.

I hate it. Stop, you fuckers.

If you're going to cuss, cuss. I like 'Krath' and 'Drov' and shit like that, but the fecks and shets and stuff ... nah. Drop that mess.

i don't think cuss words need to have the same force as they do in real life.

so vowel changes are great, in my opinion. I'm here to roleplay, how a cuss word impacts me is unimportant to how i play. in fact, the less the cussword impacts me, the better, so that i can stay truer to my character.

I use different versions of curse words depending on the accent of my character.

One pc in particular used "fuggin'" for "fuckin'", or sometimes "shat" for "shit". It's just variants of the actual words.

Meh. Who cares.

Feck ye I won't do what ye tell me!
Feck ye I won't do what ye tell me!
Feck ye I won't do what ye tell me, mothakanker!!!

I can't help but see feck as the wussified version of fuck.  It is like saying "god darn it!" instead of saying "god damn it!"  One sounds like you meant it, the other sounds like Ned Flanders.  To each their own, but I can't help but hear/read feck and shet as mild exclamations rather than the real deal.

Quote from: "Rindan"To each their own, but I can't help but hear/read feck and shet as mild exclamations rather than the real deal.

Sometimes you want the real deal and sometimes you just want a mild exclamation.

I use both, according to my mood.

Feck is more comical.
Fuck is more serious.

So, what's the general consensus here folks?

If you use 'fuck' you rock, and if you use 'feck' you're a pussy?

Quote from: "Forest Junkie"
If you use 'fuck' you rock, and if you use 'feck' you're a pussy?

Or a dwarf. (Not that dwarves are pussies, but ALL dwarves are also scottish.)

All dwarves are pussies. Real men/women aren't scared to play a race without awesome stat modifiers.

Quote from: "jstorrie"All dwarves are pussies. Real men/women aren't scared to play a race without awesome stat modifiers.

Now say that to a dwarf's face.

... Or, y'know, the general area above it.  If you have neck problems.

you guys are fucking retarded.

feck isn't used in real life. it's strictly for the game, so it can't be a weaker version of fuck. It's just the armageddon version of fuck.

To me, it's immersive.

It'd be one thing if people were saying, "frack." "Shat" even, is defintely a weak version of shit, and not zalanthan.

But Feck and Shet? That's zalanthan. It just like describing something as tuajje-blue instead of steel-blue. And so I prefer it.

Quote from: "Agent_137"But Feck and Shet? That's zalanthan. It just like describing something as tuajje-blue instead of steel-blue. And so I prefer it.

No, if the word was abacr and shorka, those would be Zalanthian words.  Feck and shet are fuck and shit with the vowels replaced with e's.  Either that, or the Zalanthian version of fuck and shit just so happen to be spelled with just one letter changed and have exactly the same meaning.

Quote from: "Agent_137"you guys are fucking retarded.

Ouch, that hurt dude.  That word really cut me to the core.

Quote from: "Agent_137"you guys are fecking retarded.

O-ko-ly-dokely!

With a yellowed grin, the dusty, unshaven man says, in southern-accented sirihish:
    "Too feckin' old for this shet.

His expression grim, the dusty, unshaven man says, in southern-accented sirihish:
    "Too fuckin' old for this shit."

There's a distinct difference in the feel you get for the character.  In one, you get a grizzled, battle-weary, and amiable-because-he's-seen-so-much-crap.  The other is just grizzled, battle-weary, and gith-the-fuck-out.

Both have their place, really.

Feck always makes me think of Dr. Elliot Reid's 'frick', so it always makes me snicker, but...

I would rather see a good, meaty fuck. The word has weight to it.

-WP

I think "fuck" as an english word is already weak.  In my opinion of all the languages I know, english probably has the most boring curses.  It's just bland.  So ig it doesn't really make a difference to me.

Though why are you guys so anal?  Go concentrate on your own RP, dammit!  You all SUCK and need improvement! Stop waisting time criticizing other people's RP.  SUCK I tell you... SECK!...

Quote from: "Agent_137"feck isn't used in real life. it's strictly for the game, so it can't be a weaker version of fuck. It's just the armageddon version of fuck.

Well, uh, actually it is but just not in the US. Feck is used pretty extensively in Ireland as part of our dialect of English. If you come to Ireland you will hear it regularly - especially in more rural areas. It is a weaker version of fuck here and doesn't carry the same weight at all.

Having said all that I generally prefer to use it IG as it's got a nice Zalanthas feel to it in my opinion. The docs (help curses) also state that it carries the same weight as fuck. If we can accept people riding giant insects, people shooting flames from their hands, people being able to read the minds of other people then I'm sure such healthy and vibrant imaginations can also stretch just that tinsy bit more to let feck be a proper meaty curse.

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Quote from: "Agent_137"feck isn't used in real life. it's strictly for the game, so it can't be a weaker version of fuck. It's just the armageddon version of fuck.

Well, uh, actually it is but just not in the US. Feck is used pretty extensively in Ireland as part of our dialect of English. If you come to Ireland you will hear it regularly - especially in more rural areas. It is a weaker version of fuck here and doesn't carry the same weight at all.

oh sweet. Well, I still stand by my earlier argument since i'm sure the 19 people who voted against feck aren't irish.

If they are irish, well, I hope they're as enlightened as you, and not a bunch of fecking githclits.

I've always seen 'feck'  as a dialect thing with neither more nor less weight behind it than the word fuck. Or other altered obscenities.

That being said, it doesn't really matter what you use to curse. You can use no 'profanity' to say some eloquently violent and obscene things. Profanity and obscenity in its most purest form is the natural use of language to describe things in unnatural and ugly ways. In many respects, it's no different than telling a tall tale or yarn. There are people who can make the most profane things sound beautiful and wise, simply by the way they use the words, and what they say with them, and conversely, use beautiful, harmless words in ways that would turn the air blue around them.

So feck, fuck, coont, cunt, ass, arse, shit, shite -- these things don't matter. They're just a few letters strung together to form a word -- it's what you say around them and their timing that make them either sound natural or like you're trying too hard (to be less/more obscene).

Quote from: "Agent_137"If they are irish, well, I hope they're as enlightened as you, and not a bunch of fecking githclits.

"Fecking githclits". Oh man, that got me laughing. Good word, good word.

Quote from: "Ashes"They're just part of an accent, to me.

Some people ask ye if y'wanna go t'th'Barrel fer a swig o' ale.

Some people just call you a kank-feckin' piece of shet.

Same thing.

yes

I usually type out fek instead of fuck and similar euphemisms.  

My reasonins is as follows -- I curse when I relax and video games (i.e. Arm) are part of my relaxing time.  Therefore I curse when I Arm.

However, I worry that some sixteen year old's mom is going to walk into the room and read over his shoulder while he's playing, so I want him to at least have plausible deniability that he's playing anything dirty or weird, in case he has overly religious parents.  

It's kind of a long shot but I feel really bad for kids like that and I see no reason to make things harder on them.


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