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General => World and Roleplaying Discussion => Topic started by: Lavalamps on July 20, 2006, 12:26:56 PM

Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Lavalamps on July 20, 2006, 12:26:56 PM
Okay, so, if you're born anywhere in Gol Krathu, you get the purple and blue band.

If you're born in Tuluk, you get the 6-pronged star, or whatever is appropriate, as well as the blue and purple band.

If you're born in Gol Krathu, OUTSIDE of Tuluk, and then moved to Tuluk, would you get the 6-pronged star put on, or would you not?
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: flaran on July 20, 2006, 12:36:09 PM
I think it would be recommended if you lived outside Tuluk and then became an official Tuluki citizen through order of the Templarate.  Otherwise, it shouldn't be any big deal.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Dre on July 20, 2006, 01:53:42 PM
You know i was wondering the same thing recently and I wasn't able to get a difinative answer but at the end i assumed that...


From docs
QuoteAll Tuluki citizens bear a tattoo of a blue and purple inked band somewhere on their head, face, neck, or upper shoulders, signifying their origin in Gol Krathu. Beyond that, each bears a caste-specific tattoo.

So if you were born in Tuluk you'd get get the purple and blue band.

Now if you later became a loyal citizen of Tuluk, which -most- people living there probably would have as soon as they got the purple and blue band then you would recieve the six-pronged star.

Therefore a southerner that has become loyal to Tuluk might recieve the six-pronged star but not the purple and blue band. If you only had the six pronged star you'd still get dirty looks and probably not get the elite jobs with the houses.

Now the docs don't really go into details about when a person gets their purple and blue inked banded tattoo...what is basically keeping a southerner from impostering as a northern and trying to get one? I am guessing inoder to prevent this Northern folk get or are forced to get this tattoo when they are really young as a marking of 'whether he or she likes it or not they are one of us'.

Later in life when they were ready to pursue a more rewarding career in Tuluk or had be properly brainwashed with the culture and propaganda, a person would go to the templarate and ask to become a full citizen of the city.

Therefore it might not be uncommon for someone to have the six-pronged star and not have the purple-inked banded tattoo, but there probably are a (rare)few people that for whatever reason  (maybe they got moved when they were young) only have the inked-banded tattoo and not the six-pronged star (which they might still get at a later date).

Now this is what i think and may not be correct, so don't quote me. Like i said i was asking the staff and didn't get an exact answer.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: spawnloser on July 20, 2006, 02:08:44 PM
Think of it this way:

If you are born there, you get the blue and purple band.

If you are a citizen there (regardless of where you are born), you get the star on your hands.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Marauder Moe on July 21, 2006, 10:52:18 AM
Was the question of whether or not non-humans get citizen caste and birth region tattoos in the north ever answered definitivly?
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Larrath on July 21, 2006, 11:18:44 AM
Since there's no mention of only the Tuluki humans wearing caste tattoos and it's described as a city-wide ancient custom, I'm completely certain that non-humans in Tuluk also wear caste tattoos.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Marauder Moe on July 21, 2006, 11:51:02 AM
Quote from: "Larrath"Since there's no mention of only the Tuluki humans wearing caste tattoos and it's described as a city-wide ancient custom, I'm completely certain that non-humans in Tuluk also wear caste tattoos.
Wouldn't the opposite argument also be plausible?  Since there's no mention of non-human Tulukis getting tattoos...

It'd be nice if the docs cleared it up one way or another, or said that it depends on the species or the individual.  I could see elves almost never wanting to get caste tattoos, half-elves only getting them if they want to fit in with humans, dwarves only getting them if blending in suits their focus, and half-giants almost always agreeing to a master/owner/friend's suggestion to get them.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Gimfalisette on July 21, 2006, 12:01:34 PM
I have seen non-humans wearing the Tuluki caste/citizenship tattoos. I would like to see all of this stuff documented about the tattoos also, since it's really pretty confusing.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: marko on July 21, 2006, 12:12:20 PM
To the best of my understanding anyone, no matter race or gender, get the tattoos.  If they are born in the Gol Krathu - they get the gol krathu tattoo.  If they are citizens they get the star tattoo.

Tribals can be an exception to this - in that if they are born in Tuluk while the tribe is visiting it is conceivable that they would not seek out the tattoo.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: spawnloser on July 21, 2006, 03:44:43 PM
I could, however, picture some elves not bothering with the caste tattoos.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Dalmeth on July 21, 2006, 04:12:49 PM
Well, one thing I'd like to point out is that there are a few settled tribes in Tuluk over in the Tribal Quarter.  This includes one or two tribes of elves.  So tribals will have the tattoos.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: spawnloser on July 21, 2006, 04:36:01 PM
The question is not whether or not they could, but whether they would, I think.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: marko on July 21, 2006, 05:39:20 PM
Any elf who lives in the city and is a city elf would get the tattoo.  The tattoo is a designation of being a citizen.  If the elf wishes to be treated as a citizen then they get tattooed.

Without a tattoo - the law comes down harder on the person.  Elves are smart to recognize that having the tattoo grants them a little more freedom.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: spawnloser on July 21, 2006, 05:50:35 PM
Myself, I would still suspect there are those that would not, though.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: mansa on July 21, 2006, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: "spawnloser"Myself, I would still suspect there are those that would not, though.

Perhaps you think that because you view that there are no city elf tribes in tuluk, who live in tuluk, and never leave the city walls.

But that's wrong.  There are elven tribes that live in tuluk, who never leave the walls, who all have tattoos.  Nobody has ever seen them, coded, though.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: spawnloser on July 21, 2006, 06:56:22 PM
Oh, I'm not saying that none would.  I fully acknowledge that some would.  I simply think that some wouldn't as well.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: Fnord on July 21, 2006, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: "spawnloser"Think of it this way:

If you are born there, you get the blue and purple band.

If you are a citizen there (regardless of where you are born), you get the star on your hands.
Title: Tuluk Tattoos
Post by: spawnloser on July 21, 2006, 09:01:20 PM
Heh, I'm not sure if that was supposed to be me contradicting myself or note...

Still, that is the general rule.  Later, I was arguing that there are exceptions to most general rules.