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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Majikal on May 13, 2006, 01:56:48 PM

Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Majikal on May 13, 2006, 01:56:48 PM
I was thinking to possibly make a few wear locations unable to be stolen, at least while you're awake. I was just stolen from.. and they took my gloves in the middle of my crafting a javelin. And seriously.. I felt that was a little ridiculous. I know this topic has been beat to death but can anyone else think of some type of safeguard to prevent ridiculous thefts from happening? At least while you are awake.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Hymwen on May 13, 2006, 02:00:12 PM
What? You had your equipped gloves stolen while you were awake? That is, and I'm quite sure about this, not possible.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Larrath on May 13, 2006, 02:00:35 PM
Use the Watch command.  If someone is blatantly abusing the code somehow, you can also wish up or take a log, get all the information you can about the PC doing the stealing, and email MUD.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Bogre on May 13, 2006, 02:05:51 PM
I can see how its plausible someone stole your gloves too, if you were crafting something and you just set them aside. I.E. you might have tucked them in your belt, and then furiously set to polishing your javelin.

In the resulting concentration on the work, I can see how a thief could have a plausible opportunity to nick them from you.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Hymwen on May 13, 2006, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: "Bogre"I can see how its plausible someone stole your gloves too, if you were crafting something and you just set them aside. I.E. you might have tucked them in your belt, and then furiously set to polishing your javelin.

In the resulting concentration on the work, I can see how a thief could have a plausible opportunity to nick them from you.

Yep, I agree there too. If you aren't wearing it and aren't paying special attention to it, I'd say that in most situations it's fair game to steal it. And if you're busy crafting something on top of that, I'd say it's just fine. I don't know exactly what happened in your situation, but unless you were staring fiercely at the thief or he was in the other end of the room (and had explicitly announced that he was) then I can't see the problem. You were craftnig and thus distracted.

The watch code is more than enough to protect yourself from thieves, and I personally think that watching someone while crafting is a bit dubious. Not saying that you did that, but just in general.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Spoon on May 13, 2006, 02:14:46 PM
If you were wearing them on your hands, they couldn't have been stolen. Anything in your inventory is considered 'about your person' and is easily stolen. Especially if you're crafting something and you put them in your inventory...

But if they have disappeared from your hands, it's either a magic trick or a bug.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Synthesis on May 13, 2006, 03:05:51 PM
Perhaps you accidentally crafted the gloves into the javelin.

You are carrying:
a pair of white gloves
a white bone spearhead
a long wooden pole

>craft white pole into javelin
You begin crafting...

You craft the gloves and the pole into a white-gloved javelin.

You think:
         D'oh, wrong keyword again!
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Cenghiz on May 13, 2006, 03:15:07 PM
I assume the gloves weren't on you, if it's allowed to have your worn gloves stolen, your pants should be unsafe, too. So you either emoted putting them aside, on the table, or you tucked them into a pocket etc. Or it wouldn't be stolen at all.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Yang on May 13, 2006, 04:27:14 PM
I've always wondered how those pick pockets in New York manage to get your watch off your wrist or rings from your fingers without you noticing.

In all honesty, I think pick pockets in Zalanthas are probably really underpowered compared to some of the things I've seen or have heard of happening in real life. I don't think the average, sheltered player understand just how extreme a theft can be if undertaken by a master of his trade.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Cegar on May 13, 2006, 04:33:22 PM
Go to France, wear a fancy, tight choker around your neck, and tell me it wont get stolen.

Gypsies are magical.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Hymwen on May 13, 2006, 04:35:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that the reason worn items can't be stolen is for playability rather than realism.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Cegar on May 13, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
I know, and I'm glad about that. I'm just saying that people shouldn't get all bent out of shape if they lose something and think it is stolen.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: JRB on May 13, 2006, 05:31:21 PM
http://www.pickpocket.co.uk/
http://www.pickpocketmagician.com/ropefast.html

Nerf steal.
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Cyrian20 on May 13, 2006, 06:42:15 PM
This would be an excellent place to insert the idea of watching items you have. How fun would that be if some elf is nicking everyone so the militia sends a fella undercover. Keeping an eye on his steel diamond crusted sword of smiting in his inventory so he can see if it decides to take a trip.


watch sword
you begin watching your steel diamond crusted sword.

You notice a tall figure in a dark hooded cloak try to steal your steel diamond crusted sword.

This also would make pickpockets start watching thier marks also to see if they have their eye on anything special.

All that being said I would love to see a little something for pickpockets. I hear there are ways to get around being watched but that seems to be a super ic secret how to get around code or some such. (which I compare to telling a newb born in allanak that it's ic where to get water and groceries)
Title: Another pickpocket thread
Post by: Kalden on May 14, 2006, 01:57:59 AM
It would be cool if, by "distracting" someone, you could manage to steal worn items...get that rich guy to watch your shady buddy and he won't be paying attention to you opening his pack from behind or slipping his bracelet off as you swing by.