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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Raesanos on April 01, 2006, 03:40:38 PM

Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Raesanos on April 01, 2006, 03:40:38 PM
Post it here.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Pale Horse on April 01, 2006, 04:02:28 PM
I'm impressed.  This is wonderful.  It's smooth, easy to understand, and makes it very easy for we, the player base, to make some simple requests of the staff.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Anonymous on April 01, 2006, 04:02:43 PM
Maybe I've missed it, but a log-out function would be nice.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Larrath on April 01, 2006, 04:07:54 PM
I'd like an ability to skip the Introduction phase.  It's just another tedious button to click after the 5th time.

All wonderful other than that, as far as I can see at the moment.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Tamarin on April 01, 2006, 04:15:48 PM
It looks great so far.

I think it would be neat to have a panel similar to the backend one you posted that allowed us to view the requests we have that are pending.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: SpyGuy on April 01, 2006, 04:50:00 PM
Quote from: "Tamarin"It looks great so far.

I think it would be neat to have a panel similar to the backend one you posted that allowed us to view the requests we have that are pending.

This would be great.  I'm loving it so far, good luck sifting through the deluge of account note requests.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Morrolan on April 01, 2006, 04:58:19 PM
I like it.

People need to accept the cookies for the site, though.  I had to spend 15 minutes crawling around my McAffee trying to get them accepted for the site.

Morrolan
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: cyberpatrol_735 on April 01, 2006, 05:06:17 PM
Ooohh.. will an application process go into this too?

That would be cool. App your new chars from your web browser, enhancing editing ability and whatnot.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Apocalyptic_Cow on April 01, 2006, 05:22:38 PM
This sounds really neat, but I can't log in for some reason. Is it possible that the underscore in my account name is throwing it off?
It's not doing anything wonky, just telling me that my account name or password is incorrect despite my sincerest protests.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Sanvean on April 01, 2006, 05:35:50 PM
I believe it's case-sensitive, so make sure you're capitalizing the C in Cow?
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Apocalyptic_Cow on April 01, 2006, 05:44:17 PM
No cigaro, and I'm copy/pasting the account name directly from GMUD. Starting to think this is all an elaborate April fool's joke on me alone, weeks in the making.

Clever...
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: jcarter on April 01, 2006, 06:55:34 PM
It's weird. When mailing the MUD, you suspected (you never actually 'know' you were dealing with people on the other end. This new sort of contraption you've made is 'colder' in the sense that there feels like there's a distance between the player and the staff.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: moab on April 01, 2006, 07:45:16 PM
Only two ideas to add:

1. I noticed the text box messed up the formatting of my message.  I'm not sure that's a good idea.  I wonder how it will come out on the other end.

2. Maybe have a button to submit attachments?
Title: Re: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: HunterKiller on April 01, 2006, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: "Raesanos"Post it here.

That's cool, man.  I like how it offers a pull-down for characters (tried out the character related portion of it).  I can see how this might be better and more organized for staff.  In addition, it may force the user to put their requests into a more logical order and it makes them include things they may forget otherwise.

Kudos.  Well appreciated.

- HK
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Morgenes on April 01, 2006, 07:59:33 PM
It was the '_' in the account name, I've fixed it, please try it and let me know.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: HunterKiller on April 01, 2006, 08:00:44 PM
Quote from: "Apocalyptic_Cow"This sounds really neat, but I can't log in for some reason. Is it possible that the underscore in my account name is throwing it off?
It's not doing anything wonky, just telling me that my account name or password is incorrect despite my sincerest protests.

Is your board name and account name on ginka different?  Are you using your board name instead of the game account name?  Just a thought.

- HK
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Morgenes on April 01, 2006, 08:19:29 PM
Quote from: "HunterKiller"
Quote from: "Apocalyptic_Cow"This sounds really neat, but I can't log in for some reason. Is it possible that the underscore in my account name is throwing it off?
It's not doing anything wonky, just telling me that my account name or password is incorrect despite my sincerest protests.

Is your board name and account name on ginka different?  Are you using your board name instead of the game account name?  Just a thought.

- HK

We had a bug in handling account names with '_' in them.  (As I posted in the post before yours.  This has been fixed.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Apocalyptic_Cow on April 01, 2006, 08:43:18 PM
Works like a charm. Great stuff folks.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Tamarin on April 03, 2006, 02:10:21 PM
I love that you get an email from the imm that sorted out your request, letting you know that it was handled.

That's awesome!  I do hope that's totally automated for you guys so you don't have to bother sending an actual email.

My suggestion: make that email include what the submitted issue was, maybe by just including what the user inputted as the request.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Morgenes on April 03, 2006, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: "Tamarin"I love that you get an email from the imm that sorted out your request, letting you know that it was handled.

That's awesome!  I do hope that's totally automated for you guys so you don't have to bother sending an actual email.

My suggestion: make that email include what the submitted issue was, maybe by just including what the user inputted as the request.

It's close to automated, it builds the mail for us, and if we don't have anything else to say, we just hit 'send'.  I'll work on adding the details of the request to it as well.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: bloodfromstone on April 04, 2006, 05:13:39 AM
It's worked great for me. Awesome work.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Treestone Capricorn on April 04, 2006, 05:28:19 AM
Neato. I think you should be able to submit Items, room desc, and the like with it though. Definitely cut down on time. I dunno, maybe you can and the portal cutting through space/time that I use to contact you all is simply disabling it. *shrugs* oh well. It's definitely cool though.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Folker on April 04, 2006, 05:44:15 AM
This is actually a curious idea. Is it possible to make an automatic object submission form of this type? For example, an object should have short description, main description, weight, function, durrability, etc. Just have the same form which requies all boxes (seperate box for that description, or this description) filled out and sent in.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: HunterKiller on April 04, 2006, 12:28:01 PM
A long time ago an imm made something like this for a clan.  Maybe he kept it where other imms could get to it.

- HK
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Sanvean on April 04, 2006, 02:59:25 PM
Alas, he did not.  I think it's a good idea, just a matter of one of us having time to gather info on how it should work and then put it together.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Tamarin on April 06, 2006, 03:40:03 AM
I noticed a bug in the new tool...

I followed the following line:

GDB Related --> Complaint or Appeal --> Details

In the details text field, I entered a bunch of stuff, then hit next to see the preview.  I didn't like what I saw, so I hit previos to change it.  When the  previous page (step 4) loaded, the text I had entered was now gone and I had to retype it all.

Is there any way to get the entered text to stay in the database through this process?
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: FightClub on April 06, 2006, 03:52:57 AM
Question, I sent a log in and when I got a receipt, it was blank.  Wondering if special characters such as < > might blank out the log in email, or possibly in the request.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: LauraMars on April 07, 2006, 11:27:13 AM
I think it would be great if, in addition to the options listed, there could be an "other" option.  I just submitted a request and couldn't find a subcategory to file it under, so I filed it under Staff Complaints.  That's not as bad as it sounds.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Morgenes on April 07, 2006, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: "FightClub"Question, I sent a log in and when I got a receipt, it was blank.  Wondering if special characters such as < > might blank out the log in email, or possibly in the request.

Logs are not sent back in the response.  We get the logs, don't worry about it.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Raesanos on April 07, 2006, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: "LauraMars"I think it would be great if, in addition to the options listed, there could be an "other" option.  I just submitted a request and couldn't find a subcategory to file it under, so I filed it under Staff Complaints.  That's not as bad as it sounds.

If something doesn't fit in an existing category please just email it to mud.  Requests not handled by the tool shouldn't go into it.  Also, our statistics for how many staff complaints we get will become innacurate.

That said, new categories are always considered, but for now I don't want to add "other" categories, I'd rather try to make it handle what needs to be handled specifically.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: mansa on April 17, 2006, 12:57:47 PM
I wish I could log into the reqest section and see -there- the requests that I previously have made, instead of relying on my email inbox.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Sephiroto on April 23, 2006, 06:45:23 PM
I seem to be unable to login.  I think that it is because my password exceeds the maximum number of characters allowable in the password input box.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Morgenes on April 23, 2006, 09:29:28 PM
I somehow think that's impossible, as the max length of a password on the form is 40 characters.  Mail morgenes@gmail.com with your account name and I'll see what I can see.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Raesanos on April 24, 2006, 03:49:20 PM
I added a request history page by popular request.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: mansa on April 24, 2006, 03:56:18 PM
Is it possible to edit the 'resolution' to cut out your own text?

QuoteRequest Details:
Category
Web Site
Type
Bug / Typo / Idea
Clan
None
Character
None
Details
How about an option to sign out of the 'request' form for my account? I don't see a way to do it, and I'm kinda scared about that.
Log
None
Resolution
Mansa, Your Web Site : Bug / Typo / Idea request has been resolved. Here are the details you provided for this request: How about an option to sign out of the 'request' form for my account? I don't see a way to do it, and I'm kinda scared about that. Raesanos Armageddon Staff

See how Resolution shows the Details again?  Too bad it just can't show the last comment, which is highlighted in BOLD

Another example:

Quote
Request Details
Category
Web Site
Type
Bug / Typo / Idea
Clan
None
Character
None
Details
At the bottom of: http://www.armageddon.org/intro/overview.html

"Players and staff conduct lively arguments and debates on the discussion board and we meet every year at the Armageddon Players Meeting, which is held in conjunction with DragonCon and has been held in the past in locations such as Las Vegas, Chicago, Baltimore, Raleigh, and Iowa City. "

It mentions DragonCon and being in conjunction. Since this year is going to be in Las Vegas, I think the text should be changed slightly to read, "..Armageddon Players Meeting, which travels the world each year, and has been in the past in conjunction with DragonCon (insert url) in Atlanta, Las Vegas, Chicago, Baltimore, Raleigh, Iowa City and Phunket in Thailand..."

I'm sure there could be better wording for 'phunket in thailand' but my mind is failing.

Log
None
Resolution
Mansa, Your Web Site : Bug / Typo / Idea request has been resolved. Here are the details you provided for this request: At the bottom of: http://www.armageddon.org/intro/overview.html "Players and staff conduct lively arguments and debates on the discussion board and we meet every year at the Armageddon Players Meeting, which is held in conjunction with DragonCon and has been held in the past in locations such as Las Vegas, Chicago, Baltimore, Raleigh, and Iowa City. " It mentions DragonCon and being in conjunction. Since this year is going to be in Las Vegas, I think the text should be changed slightly to read, "..Armageddon Players Meeting, which travels the world each year, and has been in the past in conjunction with DragonCon (insert url) in Atlanta, Las Vegas, Chicago, Baltimore, Raleigh, Iowa City and Phunket in Thailand..." I'm sure there could be better wording for 'phunket in thailand' but my mind is failing. Raesanos Armageddon Staff

I think it would be better if it was like this:
Quote
...
Log
None
Resolution
Mansa, Your Web Site : Bug / Typo / Idea request has been resolved. Raesanos Armageddon Staff
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: X-D on April 24, 2006, 09:41:17 PM
I've not looked at the request tool yet, and odds are, I probobly never will.

Whatever.

But I really don't understand the reasoning behind removing bug/typo from in game. I dislike that change.

When I notice a typo or a bug, I'm 95% of the time, doing something in game, I then use the nice easy, command that does not hurt the flow of play.

But now, I cannot do so. I have to go to some web page figure out how that works, get to the area, type in whatever..blah blah blah.

All it means in the end is that I will no longer be logging bugs or typos to the mud. Shrug.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: mansa on April 24, 2006, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: "X-D"I've not looked at the request tool yet, and odds are, I probobly never will.

Whatever.

But I really don't understand the reasoning behind removing bug/typo from in game. I dislike that change.

When I notice a typo or a bug, I'm 95% of the time, doing something in game, I then use the nice easy, command that does not hurt the flow of play.

But now, I cannot do so. I have to go to some web page figure out how that works, get to the area, type in whatever..blah blah blah.

All it means in the end is that I will no longer be logging bugs or typos to the mud. Shrug.

You're wrong, X-D.  You should really check out what the request function is really about.

http://www.zalanthas.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18029

QuoteThe game typo/bug/idea request type was removed. Please submit these using the commands with those names in the game. This provides us better information about what was reported.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: X-D on April 24, 2006, 11:57:39 PM
Alright.
Step 1
Bring up web browser.
Step 2
Go to web page
Step 3
login
step 4
click next
step 5
pick category
step 6
click next
step 7
Go back because you can't find anything that says bug/typo/idea
step 8
get pissed off and leave


No Mansa, I'm not wrong.

Oh look, a room desc spelled wrong

typo Hey, the word cave in this room desc is spelled wrong, it says a dark cive.

Hey look, ONE step...wow.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Xygax on April 24, 2006, 11:59:03 PM
X-D:  Why is it that you think the in-game bug/typo/idea commands no longer work?
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: X-D on April 25, 2006, 12:02:35 AM
Hhhmmm, thought I saw that they were removed.
Maybe I read wrong?
I'll look:)

Oh, Also, I have checked out the request thing and well...Nope, don't much like it anyway.

From my end it is still easier to mail mud, shrug.

(EDIT)

Same here, Just reread it and it was removed from request not game...Heh.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: EvilRoeSlade on April 25, 2006, 12:02:43 AM
Yeah, I just reread the announcement again and apparently it was the website bug/typo/idea function that was removed and we are being asked to use those commands in game.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Xygax on April 25, 2006, 12:05:09 AM
Quote from: "X-D"From my end it is still easier to mail mud, shrug.

Your definition of "easier" must not include having your requests handled expediently.  (actually, I'm not sure if requests which are provided-for by the tool will be handled by the mud account at all -- much less expediently, given that the tool makes the staff-burden for these requests so much lighter.)

-- X
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: X-D on April 25, 2006, 12:13:43 AM
It probobly does make it easier on the staff end.
But, I've never made a request that I was in a hurry on.

A week, shrug, two, no big deal, a month, maybe I'll mail again, maybe not.

I'll wait and see if it gets more streamlined on the player end.

I really don't see the need for all the menus unless you are only allowed a certain number of options in a dropdown.

I went through them all and if there is not a limit, why then are all the final options simply not on one dropdown?

Login, dropdown, pick, poof.
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Angela Christine on April 25, 2006, 02:31:15 AM
I can see not including bugs and typos in the webby thing, but Ideas seem like they could be useful there.  Sometimes I have an idea that takes up more than 200 characters and isn't location specific.  

I used the in-game idea command, but since I had to try to squeeze it in under 200 characters I'm not sure if it was coherent.  I have a real problem being succinct.  :)  I was standing in a tenement lobby when I submitted the idea, but it really isn't an idea that needs to be linked to one particular location or NPC.  It isn't something that fits with any of the web tool categories, but it also isn't something so special that it needs to be looked at by the account mail person either.

Just a thought.


Angela Christine
Title: Feedback on new request process.
Post by: Tamarin on May 04, 2006, 01:35:46 PM
It'd be good if there was an option under character to add keywords.