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Title: Kings' Stones
Post by: Salt Merchant on December 05, 2005, 07:44:11 PM
Played with wooden or stone pieces carved (by crafters) to resemble the military units they represent.

Lots of unit types are possible: archers, heavy footmen, pike men, skirmishers with spears, half-giant clubbers, half-giant slingers, dwarven hardened axemen, razorback scimitar calvary and so forth. A limited number of templars could be deployed, each attached to a unit and stiffening its resolve.

It's a strategy game, but all the strategy is in the setup. Each side privately deploys its army (left wing, center, right wing, reserves), then a screen is removed and the disposition is revealed. Maybe in a variant, each commander could switch around a couple of units before battle is joined.

Individual battles would be sort of rock-paper-scissors resolved. Pike men would skewer half-giant clubbers, half-giant clubbers smash razorback scimitar calvary which rolls over heavy footmen etc. The foremost pair of units face off on each front (left, center, right) each turn, and reserves get thrown into a wing that becomes depleted of units. When a wing collapses, the army is defeated and the King's Stone is lost. The victor may then either chose to keep the piece or demand a ransom decided by the players before the game was set out.

Anyhow, clearly more development is needed to make a complete game. Any cool ideas?
Title: Kings' Stones
Post by: Rindan on December 05, 2005, 08:26:45 PM
I think that is actually a pretty solid description.  I could easily see a few Tor playing it.  Granted, it is probably far too complex to be worth trying to code into the game, but you could easily RP it out in vague generalities.  There is a great log out there of two people playing Izdar (sp?) that describes how one might RP out the game.
Title: Re: Kings' Stones
Post by: Salt Merchant on April 23, 2008, 01:36:31 PM
Thread revived due to an expression of interest for Arm 2.0.

One of the things that would make this game more interesting is that each player may have many pieces but could only deploy a set number of them. Sort of like building a deck in Magic: The Gathering.
Title: Re: Kings' Stones
Post by: Inertial Inix on April 23, 2008, 02:56:34 PM
Setup concept:
> play board
You set up a crown-blazoned agafari board and arrange a small screen across the middle.
> key board
On a lumpy dragon-carved table:
  1.board - A crown-blazoned agafari game board.
> stealthily put lord board left 4
You stealthily place your granite-carved Basani waterlord figurine on a crown-blazoned agafari board.
  -----------------
  . . . . . . . . .  1 2 3   W = waterlord 
  W . . . . . . . .  4 5 6   
  . . . . . . . . .  7 8 9
  left center right
> stealthily put spear board left 9
You stealthily place your granite-carved spearman figurine on a crown-blazoned agafari board.
  -----------------
  . . . . . . . . .  1 2 3   W = waterlord  P = spear unit
  W . . . . . . . .  4 5 6     
  . . P . . . . . .  7 8 9
  left center right
>
You notice: the squint-eyed cendi places an engraved chitin giant figurine on the right side of a crown-blazoned agafari board.
Title: Re: Kings' Stones
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 23, 2008, 03:02:27 PM
Cool!
Title: Re: Kings' Stones
Post by: Inertial Inix on April 24, 2008, 01:45:22 PM
So, I haven't playtested this out very far. But here's a simple set of rules we might start from.  I'm not sure if I followed my own rules perfectly in the example, and my eyes are getting crossed looking at it. :) If we can go through a couple design cycles on the rules, I'll try to write a game simulator so we can do some real testing.


And now, an example game.

Legend:
p = spear unit (P = with templar)
w = sword unit (W = with templar)
x = axe unit   (X = with templar)
c = cavalry    (C = with templar)
a = archers    (A = with templar)


Start of a game:
p w x w x p x p w
a   c a   c a   c   player Amos
  P     W     X
=================
w w x P C P x x w
  p     p   p       player Malik
a a   c c   a c

Going left to right:
a vs w: archers defeat swordsmen.  Amos gets the [w] piece.
P vs w: templar+spearmen defeat swordsmen.  Amos gets the [w] piece.
c vs x: cavalry defeat axemen.  Amos gets the [x] piece.
a vs P: archers can't defeat templar+spearmen. Archers will have to move up in the next round.
W vs C: equal templars; cavalry beat swordsmen. Malik gets [t]emplar and [w] pieces.
c vs. P: cavalry can't beat templar+spearmen. Cavalry will move up.
a vs. x: archers defeat axemen. Amos gets [x] piece.
X vs x: templar+axes defeats axes; Amos gets another [x].
c vs w: cavalry defeat swords; Amos gets [w].

End of the first round, middle two rows:
a   c a   c a   c   player Amos
  P     _     X
=================
_ _ _ P C P _ _ _
  p     p   p       player Malik

Second round: second row fills in first; back row fills in second.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
p w x w x p x p w   player Amos
a P c a _ c a X c 
=================
_ p _ P C P p _ _
a a   c p   a c     player Malik
_ _ _ _ c _ _ _ _   

Left to right:
a vs a = draw
P vs p = P     Amos gets [p]
c unchallenged
a vs P = P     Malik gets [a]
x vs C = C     Malik gets [x]
c vs P = draw
a vs p = p     Malik gets [a]
X vs c = draw
c unchallenged
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
p w x w x p x p w
a P c _ _ c _ X c   player Amos
=================
_ _ _ P C P p _ _
a a   c p _ a c _   player Malik
_ _ _ _ c _ _ _ _ 

Move up for last round:
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
p w x _ _ p _ p w
a P c w x c x X c   player Amos
=================
a a _ P C P p c _
_ _ _ c p _ a _ _   player Malik
_ _ _ _ c _ _ _ _

a vs a = draw
P vs a = P
c unchallenged
w vs P = P
x vs C = C
c vs P = P
x vs p = x
X vs c = draw
c unchallenged
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
p w x _ _ p _ p w
a P c _ _ _ x X c   player Amos
=================
a _ _ P C P _ c _
_ _ _ c p _ a _ _   player Malik
_ _ _ _ c _ _ _ _

First round is a draw, because both players have lost one army.  They will reset the board with the pieces they retain and the new ones they've acquired, and play again.

Anybody willing to take a look through this and point out problems?
Salt Merchant, is this something like what you had in mind?