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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: adrien on October 16, 2005, 06:06:54 PM

Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: adrien on October 16, 2005, 06:06:54 PM
who came up with the idea of no one knowing how to read and wright?
and die when you can read nad wright

by that i mean which Imm  suggested that?

and which IC power made that too?
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Tamarin on October 16, 2005, 06:08:22 PM
This is a joke, right?
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Cuusardo on October 16, 2005, 07:23:03 PM
*facepalm*

Does it really matter?
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Tarx on October 16, 2005, 08:19:06 PM
If you are asking for the sake of curiosity, I can tell you that ICly, you should read the help documents on it--they're very much accessible, and you should always take the time to look at them.

If you are asking because you don't like this, I don't see how it really can "kill" your roleplay.
Title: Re: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Rindan on October 16, 2005, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: "adrien"who came up with the idea of no one knowing how to read and wright?
and die when you can read nad wright

by that i mean which Imm  suggested that?

and which IC power made that too?

It has been in the game for an extremely long time.  Who did it?  I have no idea.

As to who, well, the IC power that dictates this is the God-King of each respective city state.  This is in turn enforced by the templerate of each city state.  They why if it is much simpler.  Reading and writing is extremely powerful.  Having absolute control over this makes propaganda and general control over the populace much easier.
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: lukie on October 16, 2005, 08:42:36 PM
Basically, nearly everybody on Zalanthas is either:

1. Too stupid
2. Too busy
3. Too elven

To learn to read and write. Also you get killed if you learn, and also there is nothing TO read, so it's not like it would really help you that much unless you had books, in which case you would already probably be able to read if you were able to obtain something like that.

OOC it's because that's the way the game was made.
Title: Re: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Halaster on October 16, 2005, 09:28:17 PM
Quote from: "adrien"who came up with the idea of no one knowing how to read and wright?
and die when you can read nad wright

by that i mean which Imm  suggested that?

and which IC power made that too?

IC, the sorcerer-kings and their templars "made that too".  As for which Imm, it's been so long we don't know.  I think it's some jerk we killed and then ground up his (or her) bones into a fine powder, sprinkled it on the server that runs the game, and danced around in joy for having liberated "the people from their oppression".
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Gaare on October 16, 2005, 09:36:39 PM
I think some guy in Wizards of the Coast is responsible while they are working on Dark Sun.

Quote from: "Halaster"As for which Imm, it's been so long we don't know. I think it's some jerk we killed and then ground up his (or her) bones into a fine powder, sprinkled it on the server that runs the game, and danced around in joy for having liberated "the people from their oppression".

So, this explans what happens to IMMs who take retirement.
Title: Re: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: HardCarbon on October 17, 2005, 07:03:45 AM
So what about people who don't look to one of the kings?


Quote from: "Rindan"
Quote from: "adrien"who came up with the idea of no one knowing how to read and wright?
and die when you can read nad wright

by that i mean which Imm  suggested that?

and which IC power made that too?

It has been in the game for an extremely long time.  Who did it?  I have no idea.

As to who, well, the IC power that dictates this is the God-King of each respective city state.  This is in turn enforced by the templerate of each city state.  They why if it is much simpler.  Reading and writing is extremely powerful.  Having absolute control over this makes propaganda and general control over the populace much easier.
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Ghost on October 17, 2005, 07:21:35 AM
Quote from: "Halaster"As for which Imm, it's been so long we don't know. I think it's some jerk we killed and then ground up his (or her) bones into a fine powder, sprinkled it on the server that runs the game, and danced around in joy for having liberated "the people from their oppression".

Is not Halaster cute now? :D
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: jmordetsky on October 17, 2005, 07:37:02 AM
ilikeread
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: jstorrie on October 17, 2005, 07:58:44 AM
Literacy was far more common in the Dark Sun campaign setting or the Dune setting than it is in Armageddon.
Title: Re: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Xygax on October 17, 2005, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: "adrien"who came up with the idea of no one knowing how to read and wright?
and die when you can read nad wright

by that i mean which Imm  suggested that?

and which IC power made that too?
The idea of no one knowing how to "read nad wright" in RL, you mean?

Here's a cool thing that you desperately need.  :shock:  Unless your post was intended in irony, in which case, it was wonderful and I thank you.

-- X
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Tarx on October 17, 2005, 12:29:21 PM
Xygax is my favorite.
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: adrien on October 17, 2005, 04:58:22 PM
lol that was a good one
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Tarx on October 18, 2005, 04:30:07 PM
lolz n00berz
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: adrien on October 19, 2005, 06:27:09 PM
Quote from: "Tarx"lolz n00berz


well spoken Mr 2005  :P   :P:P:P  


8)
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: Tarx on October 19, 2005, 09:19:55 PM
I wasn't talking about you, it was meant more as a comic relief thing...

And I've played since 2003, I just didn't log in on the forums for a long time. :)
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: adrien on October 19, 2005, 09:33:21 PM
I didn't take offence just joking around
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: sarahjc on October 20, 2005, 12:42:05 PM
I love no reading, no writing concept. It stresses the boundaries between rich and poor and price of education.

The reason why should be pretty simple for common folk to understand I think, though no doubt it's also a sign of oppression, Seems all total like a no-brainer to me.

Firstly, there is no printed text readily available to the public. You may not think this a big deal.. but back in the day when monks were writing things, most people didn't read and mostly because they couldn't afford to read. Getting a hand printed copy of a book like the bible was insanely expensive and only scholarly type and the very wealthy could afford it.

In fact, so much so was reading and writing admired as a sign of intelligence and wealth, many of those fabulously rich and scholarly folks, when posing for a portrait would do so with a book in hand or someone in the painting. Education was a sign of great wealth and importance.

It wasn't until the printing press was invented that people became literate on a common level which also inpart, contributed to the Renaissance and brought civilized humanity out of the dark ages..


Considering the poverty level of Zalanthas and the class system that it has. The reading and writing concepts that the game follows seem on target. Revel in your lowlyness.
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: path on October 26, 2005, 02:34:38 PM
Someone asked about those people who do not look to their God-King. Those people are killed long before they have time to devote to the illicit studies.

Or, if they are outside the cities, such as tribals, they're culture isn't advanced in that particular area. They're more at the level of simple pictographs without the standardization.
Title: whos idea was this!!!
Post by: RunningMountain on October 26, 2005, 02:56:39 PM
Killed or converted. Both work. I prefer the latter, the more PCs we get actually roleplaying devoutness the better.