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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: jmordetsky on July 04, 2005, 06:24:40 PM

Title: subclass skills
Post by: jmordetsky on July 04, 2005, 06:24:40 PM
Can you ever hope to be very skilled at the skills gained via your choice of subclass?

Or is this a find out IC...
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Manhattan on July 04, 2005, 07:16:07 PM
Do subclass skills ever branch?
Title: subclass skills
Post by: FiveDisgruntledMonkeysWit on July 04, 2005, 07:17:18 PM
I think it's safe to say that some one with the 'thief' subguild will never be as good at stealing as some one with a 'pickpocket' main guild. I hesitate to say anything more; it'd be best to find out IC.
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Anonymous on July 04, 2005, 07:19:04 PM
Quote from: "Manhattan"Do subclass skills ever branch?
Someone on staff said no to this question on the board a long time ago I believe.

I also am 99% sure they said that a armorcraft subclass will never be as good as a merchant with armorcrafting, or something to that effect.
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Tlaloc on July 04, 2005, 09:11:46 PM
Help Subguild (http://www.armageddon.org/cgi-bin/help_index/show_help?secondary_class)
Title: subclass skills
Post by: jmordetsky on July 04, 2005, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: "Tlaloc"Help Subguild

I figured that was the deal to start, but I'm curious if thats the case moving forward? For example a warrior wit ha thief sub who trains steal, will he ever get good?
Title: subclass skills
Post by: FiveDisgruntledMonkeysWit on July 04, 2005, 10:35:06 PM
jmordetsky wrote:
QuoteFor example a warrior wit ha thief sub who trains steal, will he ever get good?
I'd say that depends on what your idea of 'good' is.
I will say I've had characters who lived solely off their subguild skills. I will also say it wasn't easy.
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Maybe42or54 on July 04, 2005, 10:39:44 PM
Sure, a thief might get pretty good.
But.. if you fail. Just beat the target to death with their twinking arms.
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Yokunama on July 04, 2005, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: "jmordetsky"
Quote from: "Tlaloc"Help Subguild

I figured that was the deal to start, but I'm curious if thats the case moving forward? For example a warrior wit ha thief sub who trains steal, will he ever get good?

The warrior won't be as good as a normal thief who tries to steal.

From Help Subguild:
A thief-based guild (burglar, pickpocket or assassin) will be a better thief than a warrior with the subguild of thief.
Title: subclass skills
Post by: jstorrie on July 05, 2005, 12:44:56 AM
A more important question might be, "will a warrior with subclass thief ever be good enough to expect a reasonable degree of success with his subclass skills?" I've only had a couple of subclass skills ever approach consistent usability, with the exception of subclasses that gave skills my main class would later branch.
Title: Re: subclass skills
Post by: Rhyden on July 05, 2005, 01:07:15 AM
Quote from: "jmordetsky"Can you ever hope to be very skilled at the skills gained via your choice of subclass?

Yes.
Title: Re: subclass skills
Post by: jmordetsky on July 05, 2005, 08:04:56 AM
Quote from: "Rhyden"
Quote from: "jmordetsky"Can you ever hope to be very skilled at the skills gained via your choice of subclass?

Yes.

Thanks you. *bangs his head against the wall with frustration*
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Bardex on July 05, 2005, 08:56:41 AM
Just not -as- skilled as someone who has that skill in their primary class.  So a jeweler subguild can't master jewelry even though he can get pretty good at it.
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Xygax on July 05, 2005, 11:28:18 AM
Thanks to some work by Nessalin a while back, it -is- now possible for subguild skills to branch.  Finding out which subguild skills branch (in any) and when (if ever) is an excercise for the reader.

-- X
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Cenghiz on July 05, 2005, 11:41:29 AM
*blinks*
Title: subclass skills
Post by: Maybe42or54 on July 05, 2005, 01:00:48 PM
Uh.. What the..
*blink* *blink*
Cool?

I get to twink my subskills now! Awesome.