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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: sacac on June 09, 2005, 01:15:39 AM

Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: sacac on June 09, 2005, 01:15:39 AM
Say you are wielding two "a fancy dagger."
Or two of whatever item happens to have the same sdesc.


Now, how about these commands?
Sheathe P
Sheathe S

Sheathe P or "sheathe primary" would sheathe the weapon in your primary hand.
Sheathe S or "Sheathe secondary" would sheathe the weapon in your off hand.

Ideas? Thoughts?
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: John on June 09, 2005, 01:17:00 AM
That'd be neat, but not desperate. Change hands is useful if you sheathe the wrong weapon.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Larrath on June 09, 2005, 01:26:42 AM
I'm for this.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Spoon on June 09, 2005, 04:48:08 AM
I can see how this would be a useful shortcut if two weapons had the same keywords but were different. Also if you've got one of those annoying extra-long worded ones, like 'the fantabulous dagger".
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Tamarin on June 09, 2005, 08:57:42 AM
I've been for this for a very long time.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Delirium on June 09, 2005, 10:03:22 AM
I'd also like a way to draw something into a secondary or both wield position even when the primary hand is empty.

Something like draw sword etwo, or draw dagger es.
Title: you = stupid
Post by: EvilRoeSlade on June 09, 2005, 12:10:35 PM
You can already type draw sword etwo.

I'm not sure if you can type draw dagger es though.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Delirium on June 09, 2005, 12:53:43 PM
Draw <weapon> etwo doesn't work, last I checked. The weapon still ends up in your primary hand.

Maybe it's because the item was sheathed on the back? I'll have to experiment, but I'm fairly sure it doesn't work.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: nameless on June 09, 2005, 01:06:05 PM
the arguement you use when drawing is two, not etwo.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Delirium on June 09, 2005, 01:10:29 PM
<headsmack>
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Halaster on June 10, 2005, 10:50:10 AM
Done.  I added this and it will be in next reboot/crash.  You will be able to type sheath and then ep, primary, es, secondary, etwo, both, two.


Quote
>eq
You are using:
<primary hand>           an obsidian longsword
<secondary hand>         an obsidian shortsword
<worn as belt>           a leather knife-belt

>sheath ep
You sheathe an obsidian longsword.

>sheath secondary
You sheathe an obsidian shortsword.

>eq
You are using:
<worn as belt>           a leather knife-belt
<hung from belt>         an obsidian longsword
<hung from belt>         an obsidian shortsword

I also fixed draw to where either 'two' or 'etwo' work.

Quote
>draw longsword etwo
You draw an obsidian longsword.

>eq
You are using:
<both hands>             an obsidian longsword
<worn as belt>           a leather knife-belt
<hung from belt>         an obsidian shortsword

Quote
>eq
You are using:
<both hands>             an obsidian longsword
<worn as belt>           a leather knife-belt
<hung from belt>         an obsidian shortsword

>sheath etwo
You sheathe an obsidian longsword.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Bardex on June 10, 2005, 10:59:20 AM
Wow. That's great Halaster! Now if you could just fix it so that whenever I type "balance" in the bank, it adds another 500 sids....
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: sacac on June 10, 2005, 12:01:19 PM
Makes it easier for you to kill us all painfully with your level 4 fork of doom. ;)

Thank you!
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Delirium on June 10, 2005, 06:04:44 PM
I want a Halaster plushie.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: jstorrie on June 10, 2005, 11:01:07 PM
this is about the most asked question ever, but I have 'a leather swordbelt' equipped and can't figure out the syntax to put a sword into the sheath, and not just hang it from the belt. any help?
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Kankman on June 10, 2005, 11:07:45 PM
If it is possible to do, you must have the weapon in your inventory and type:

load weapon sheath

ie.

load sword belt
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: jstorrie on June 10, 2005, 11:14:27 PM
Isn't working. I'm getting 'You can't load a weapon you haven't got' even though it's in my inventory.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Armaddict on June 10, 2005, 11:15:31 PM
Uhm...I could be mistaken, but there aren't many belt objects in game that you can actually -load- items into.

Most belts and swordbelts are intended to be descriptive phrases. You use it the same way as any other belt, though, i.e. wear belt belt, wield sword, sheath sword
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Anael on June 11, 2005, 02:41:02 AM
If you cannot load an item into it, it's either buggy, or it's something like a swordbelt. Swordbelts are not meant to be used as sheaths themselves (as in load/unload), but as ordinary belts. Those sheaths you have in the description are there only to explain/give flavor to how you hang items on the belt using the 'sheathe sword' command.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Halaster on June 13, 2005, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: "Armaddict"Uhm...I could be mistaken, but there aren't many belt objects in game that you can actually -load- items into.

Most belts and swordbelts are intended to be descriptive phrases. You use it the same way as any other belt, though, i.e. wear belt belt, wield sword, sheath sword

Armaddict is right.  Those swordbelts don't have sheathes like you'd put a sword into.  They are descriptive phrases.

Now, if the item actually says it has a sheath in the description but doesn't work, please email me about it.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: Spud on June 13, 2005, 02:18:21 PM
Should you be able to:
draw weapon 2.sheath

Wearing two sheaths, but not being able to draw from the second because of similar keywords is annoying.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: JollyGreenGiant on June 14, 2005, 10:07:59 AM
Currently you can't, although yes, it would be nice :)
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on June 17, 2005, 12:13:25 PM
I do believe that you should require a sheath to sheath a weapon. I hate the concept that we slide these swords between our hips and a belt. It makes no sense.

An axe or a spear should require a strap. A club you could tuck at the belt, or maybe a knife,  but a sword needs a sheath.
Title: Adjustment to Sheathe command.
Post by: joyofdiscord on June 17, 2005, 02:07:29 PM
The swordbelts I've seen are descriped as having bone clasps for heavier weapons, so you're not just tucking them crudely into your belt (unless you're sheathing them on a toolbelt or something).

In my opinion, more "detail" in the matter of sheathes and belts is just going to push up the learning curve of the game and make properly equipping your character more of a hassle without adding anything of substance.  I used to play on a MUD where sheathes were tied to weapon type.  For the longest time, 2-handed swords were the only things sheathable.  Then belts for 2 1-handed swords were added.  Then belts for 2 1-handed knives.  Then belts for 1 knife and 1 sword.  But, ooops, what about people with axes and spears?  There is now an overabundance of those types of items as Imms tried to create all the permutations of the different weapon types (or at least the popular combinations) and still, every once in a while someone comes around to say, hey, I noticed we still don't have a belt which accomodates one axe and one knife.  Lots of work for Imms, lots of hassle for players, a lot of switching around of equipment.  After all that, I really appreciate the simplicity of Arm's system.  Sheathe on back doesn't even require a special item.  I think this kind of thing can stay virtual.

Oh, and that's not even considering whether or not weapons are actually even classified as swords/knives/spears/axes, instead of just piercing, chopping, slashing, blugeoning.  There are plenty of piercing swords in the game, and some slashing knives as well.