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General => World and Roleplaying Discussion => Topic started by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 09:27:20 PM

Title: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 09:27:20 PM
THere is a show on the history channel right now talking about why bugs aren't as huge as they once were, and what enviromental changes it would take for them to be as large as they were pre-history.

anyway... thought some of you might be intersted.

-FW
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Myrdryn on July 28, 2008, 09:33:26 PM
What is the name of the program?
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Rahnevyn on July 28, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
Why are you watching history channel when you could be watching DISCOVERY CHANNEL SHARK WEEK???

Note to self - must build Zalanthan desert sand-sharks.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 09:36:10 PM
Not sure. They are on raptors now, and I swear one of the paleontolgists (sp) looks JUST like Dessert Man.  I will post it and try to find the net link for it as soon as I can, I an currently at work.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: Rahnevyn on July 28, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
Why are you watching history channel when you could be watching DISCOVERY CHANNEL SHARK WEEK???

Note to self - must build Zalanthan desert sand-sharks.

l n
[far]
a few trinagular shaped sandstone fins appear to be circling around a sandy-brown inix
[near]
a triangular shaped sandstone fins is headed south towards you very fast!

Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 09:44:20 PM
Prehistoric Monsters Revealed...
No net vids available for this episode. :(
Sorry.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Fathi on July 28, 2008, 09:49:34 PM
Quote from: Rahnevyn on July 28, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
Why are you watching history channel when you could be watching DISCOVERY CHANNEL SHARK WEEK???

Note to self - must build Zalanthan desert sand-sharks.

Holy crap, it's Shark Week already!?!?!

Sometimes I really miss not having cable. DAMN.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Sokotra on July 28, 2008, 10:06:50 PM
Blah, I've had enough shark week after one day.  I switched to History channel's Prehistoric Monster's Revealed... some of those terrasaurs are the size of jet fighters.  Sounds like a wyvern or something.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 28, 2008, 10:06:50 PM
Blah, I've had enough shark week after one day.  I switched to History channel's Prehistoric Monster's Revealed... some of those terrasaurs are the size of jet fighters.  Sounds like a wyvern or something.

Glad someone is with me ;)

Been watching shark week for some 20+ year now, lol
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Nyr on July 28, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
At first I thought this thread was going to be about problems resizing things in the game.

Now I am intrigued and will try to watch this program.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 28, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
OMG! I swear that the have Bahamets on the history channel right NOW!!!!
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Ammut on July 29, 2008, 02:07:29 PM
Quote from: Rahnevyn on July 28, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
DISCOVERY CHANNEL SHARK WEEK???

Ugh.  Not shark week again... I swear, it's either that or the deadliest catch which is in
constant marathon mode.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Archbaron on July 29, 2008, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: Ammut on July 29, 2008, 02:07:29 PM
Quote from: Rahnevyn on July 28, 2008, 09:35:45 PM
DISCOVERY CHANNEL SHARK WEEK???

Ugh.  Not shark week again... I swear, it's either that or the deadliest catch which is in
constant marathon mode.
Yeah, nothing ruins a good Discovery Channel day like 14 hours of 3 episodes of Deadliest Catch.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Cerelum on July 29, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
I will stab the next person who badmouth's the deadliest catch...I love that show.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 29, 2008, 02:19:26 PM
Quote from: Cerelum on July 29, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
I will stab the next person who badmouth's the deadliest catch...I love that show.

I do too, but he wasn't exaggerating on the 15 hour of three episodes comment.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Sokotra on July 29, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
Okay.. so let's see some more giant bugs in Arm2.  Giant flying insects, especially... and deadly swarms of mid-sized flying bugs.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 29, 2008, 02:32:45 PM
Anyone else find it odd that there are tons of snakes in the Known World and none of them are poisonous?
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on July 29, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
I find it odd that you think that.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Fathi on July 29, 2008, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on July 29, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
I find it odd that you think that.

Toking heavily from a battered spice tube, the grizzled, scruffy Outrider says
to the bright-eyed, baby-cheeked new Fist recruit, in sirihish:
"You're just not gettin' bit by the -fun- snakes, man."
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 29, 2008, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: Fathi on July 29, 2008, 02:56:04 PM
Quote from: The7DeadlyVenomz on July 29, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
I find it odd that you think that.

Toking heavily from a battered spice tube, the grizzled, scruffy Outrider says
to the bright-eyed, baby-cheeked new Fist recruit, in sirihish:
"You're just not gettin' bit by the -fun- snakes, man."


Good, I have never been so glad to be wrong! :D
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Mood on July 29, 2008, 05:40:12 PM
Deadliest Catch is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Mood on July 29, 2008, 08:59:56 PM
Also, Zalanthan*.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Kyviantre on July 30, 2008, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 29, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
Okay.. so let's see some more giant bugs in Arm2.  Giant flying insects, especially... and deadly swarms of mid-sized flying bugs.

It'd have to rain a lot more to get giant flying insects...unless the Zal evolutionary cycle and method of insect biology is really warped.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Sokotra on July 30, 2008, 01:49:49 PM
Quote from: Kyviantre on July 30, 2008, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 29, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
Okay.. so let's see some more giant bugs in Arm2.  Giant flying insects, especially... and deadly swarms of mid-sized flying bugs.

It'd have to rain a lot more to get giant flying insects...unless the Zal evolutionary cycle and method of insect biology is really warped.

Heh, uhm, yeah it is already really warped.  I don't think it matters to that degree.  There are already some giant flying insects, just not as many as I would like to see.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 30, 2008, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 30, 2008, 01:49:49 PM
There are already some giant flying insects, just not as many as I would like to see.

I try to avoid those as much as possible.... but would love some variety.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Sokotra on July 30, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: FantasyWriter on July 30, 2008, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 30, 2008, 01:49:49 PM
There are already some giant flying insects, just not as many as I would like to see.

I try to avoid those as much as possible.... but would love some variety.

Exactly... and while I appreciate the "biological reality" discussions, I really don't think that it matters much in this particular instance in this particular game world.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Kyviantre on July 31, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
I'm a zoologist, so biology matters to me.  There is suspended belief and there is suspended disbelief, but since everyone has a moment of the latter in whatever their trade is, all will survive.  (Luckily, I haven't seen any giant insects yet...I'm scared of them now!)
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Sokotra on July 31, 2008, 10:38:45 AM
Quote from: Kyviantre on July 31, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
(Luckily, I haven't seen any giant insects yet...I'm scared of them now!)

Do war beetles count?  Or did you mean you haven't seen any "flying" giant insects?  Or are you talking about RL?  *confused*
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 31, 2008, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 31, 2008, 10:38:45 AM
Quote from: Kyviantre on July 31, 2008, 08:44:52 AM
(Luckily, I haven't seen any giant insects yet...I'm scared of them now!)

Do war beetles count?  Or did you mean you haven't seen any "flying" giant insects?  Or are you talking about RL?  *confused*


RL Examples

The "largest living insect" according to most scorces:
http://ufbir.ifas.ufl.edu/chap30.htm#titanus

how I picture War Beetles:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_scarabs/images/R_Beet2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_scarabs/R_Beetle.htm&h=430&w=600&sz=37&tbnid=QevBPCzyUcMJ::&tbnh=97&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drhinoceros%2Bbeetle&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image&cd=1

Hey Ourla,
You should do a drawing of Zalanthan insectoids like you did with that kick ass Humaniod one.

Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Kyviantre on July 31, 2008, 12:09:19 PM
Quote from: Sokotra on July 31, 2008, 10:38:45 AM
Do war beetles count?  Or did you mean you haven't seen any "flying" giant insects?  Or are you talking about RL?  *confused*

Flying ones...I don't think my characters would survive long if they fainted 'from the horror' each time they saw a war beetle!
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: Ghost on July 31, 2008, 02:34:39 PM
I have not watched the show but I believe the greatest impediment on insects size are the gravity and their circulatory system.  If they processed the oxygen the way mammals do, we could have bigger size insects, and if the gravity is weaker you could have Zalanthan sized ones.
Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: nyrk on July 31, 2008, 02:47:05 PM
Quote from: Ghost on July 31, 2008, 02:34:39 PM
I have not watched the show but I believe the greatest impediment on insects size are the gravity and their circulatory system.  If they processed the oxygen the way mammals do, we could have bigger size insects, and if the gravity is weaker you could have Zalanthan sized ones.

http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/2/21701757/

Title: Re: Zalanthian size Bugs
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 31, 2008, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: nyrk on July 31, 2008, 02:47:05 PM

http://fathom.lib.uchicago.edu/2/21701757/


Very Awesome LinK!