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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Fredd on September 24, 2013, 10:31:52 PM

Title: Starving
Post by: Fredd on September 24, 2013, 10:31:52 PM
It would be nice if you could tell if someone was starving to death, instead of them looking like they were beaten half to death by someone (bleeding lightly, bleeding heavily, ect)
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: hyzhenhok on September 24, 2013, 11:25:13 PM
Have it modify Max HP and make it completely separate from death by normal loss of HP.

The tall, muscular man is standing here, frighteningly emaciated.

>bash tall

You bash him and send him sprawling.
You nick the man's hand with your axe.

>disengage
You stop attacking the tall, muscular man.

>l

The tall muscular man is resting here, frighteningly emaciated, bleeding profusely.

Not the perfect solution, but the bleeding messages don't really match the trauma you've taken very well anyway.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Drayab on September 25, 2013, 12:38:29 AM
Alternatively, change the injury message to something that could reasonably apply to any sort of health loss.

The tall, muscular man is standing here, {slightly worse for wear | in decent shape | in poor shape | near-death}.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: lordcooper on September 25, 2013, 04:46:37 AM
Stop bringing OOC notions into the game.  Zalanthans bleed when they get hungry.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Taven on September 25, 2013, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Drayab on September 25, 2013, 12:38:29 AM
Alternatively, change the injury message to something that could reasonably apply to any sort of health loss.

The tall, muscular man is standing here, {slightly worse for wear | in decent shape | in poor shape | near-death}.

I feel like the above (or something like it) would be better just because it gives players a little reminder that when the code tells you blood is everywhere ahhhh, there might not actually be blood. It might encourage more RP about injury types, as well.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Fredd on September 25, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
Quote from: Taven on September 25, 2013, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Drayab on September 25, 2013, 12:38:29 AM
Alternatively, change the injury message to something that could reasonably apply to any sort of health loss.

The tall, muscular man is standing here, {slightly worse for wear | in decent shape | in poor shape | near-death}.

I feel like the above (or something like it) would be better just because it gives players a little reminder that when the code tells you blood is everywhere ahhhh, there might not actually be blood. It might encourage more RP about injury types, as well.

Agreed. I've come across a good amount of starving to death people and been like "You're bleeding everywhere, what happened?!" And felt like an idiot oocly right after.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on September 25, 2013, 08:28:38 PM
Quote from: Drayab on September 25, 2013, 12:38:29 AM
Alternatively, change the injury message to something that could reasonably apply to any sort of health loss.

The tall, muscular man is standing here, {slightly worse for wear | in decent shape | in poor shape | near-death}.
And this is a simle change of phrase in the code. There's no coding needed. I've suggested it several times.  Morg, hook me up brother.  Heh.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Synthesis on September 25, 2013, 11:27:42 PM
It'd be nice if starving was a little more realistic.  I.e. you don't start getting to "OMG I'm gonna die" for quite a long time.  Should just affect stats for a week or two IC.

What would be really funny is if they implemented refeeding syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refeeding_syndrome) and everyone started dying after epic mudsex marathons.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Son of Valhalla on September 26, 2013, 03:19:31 AM
Quote from: lordcooper on September 25, 2013, 04:46:37 AM
Stop bringing OOC notions into the game.  Zalanthans bleed when they get hungry.

Sig'ed.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: BleakOne on September 26, 2013, 05:26:35 AM
This brings to mind the funny phrase I heard once:

"This man is dehydrating! Someone get me a bandage!"
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Harmless on September 26, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Okay, I think that the ability to see whether someone is poisoned, dehydrated, starving, or otherwise affected by certain conditions should be dependent on a medical related skill. Perhaps poisoning should allow one to recognize if someone is poisoned by assessing them. Maybe brew or bandage should be applicable for starvation or dehydration status. I think this because there are a lot of skinny ass people one would assume are underfed and since starvation is a slow process anyway, it shouldn't just be an on/off, you can tell this person hasn't eaten for weeks kind of thing. It'd also make being a physician slightly more entertaining.
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: Taven on September 26, 2013, 04:26:23 PM
Quote from: Harmless on September 26, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Okay, I think that the ability to see whether someone is poisoned, dehydrated, starving, or otherwise affected by certain conditions should be dependent on a medical related skill. Perhaps poisoning should allow one to recognize if someone is poisoned by assessing them. Maybe brew or bandage should be applicable for starvation or dehydration status. I think this because there are a lot of skinny ass people one would assume are underfed and since starvation is a slow process anyway, it shouldn't just be an on/off, you can tell this person hasn't eaten for weeks kind of thing. It'd also make being a physician slightly more entertaining.

It would also be neat to see what sort of damage was inflicted, to match weapon types, and have damage done to a body stay after death.

I think that's more code work then anyone is likely to tackle, though.

(You can also just give your character one of the many non-coded, but documented, diseases in the world, and then encourage physician RP that way)
Title: Re: Starving
Post by: TheWanderer on September 26, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: Harmless on September 26, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Okay, I think that the ability to see whether someone is poisoned, dehydrated, starving, or otherwise affected by certain conditions should be dependent on a medical related skill. Perhaps poisoning should allow one to recognize if someone is poisoned by assessing them. Maybe brew or bandage should be applicable for starvation or dehydration status. I think this because there are a lot of skinny ass people one would assume are underfed and since starvation is a slow process anyway, it shouldn't just be an on/off, you can tell this person hasn't eaten for weeks kind of thing. It'd also make being a physician slightly more entertaining.
Physicians? The hardy people of Zalanthas have no use for them. What would they do that you couldn't figure out on your own? Poisoned? Take a tablet. Hungry? Eat something. Thirsty? Drink something. Bleeding to death? Take a nap.

Title: Re: Starving
Post by: slvrmoontiger on September 26, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: Harmless on September 26, 2013, 03:43:01 PM
Okay, I think that the ability to see whether someone is poisoned, dehydrated, starving, or otherwise affected by certain conditions should be dependent on a medical related skill. Perhaps poisoning should allow one to recognize if someone is poisoned by assessing them. Maybe brew or bandage should be applicable for starvation or dehydration status. I think this because there are a lot of skinny ass people one would assume are underfed and since starvation is a slow process anyway, it shouldn't just be an on/off, you can tell this person hasn't eaten for weeks kind of thing. It'd also make being a physician slightly more entertaining.

I completely agree with this one. But I also agree you shouldn't be bleeding if you're just staving to death.