Punctuation and Capital Letter

Started by najdorf, August 05, 2013, 02:00:10 PM

Sometimes, I forget punctuations at the end of sentences, and forget to start a sentence with a capital letter. And when I do that, it bugs me. It's not something big, but it also bugs me to see other players doing the same.

Therefore, I think it would be nice if code automatically checks every sentence, and capitalize it. Also, if a sentence is not ending with a proper punctuation, it can add a dot.

If code can not do this, is there a way I can do that by myself? Can you help me with such a script in MushClient? Thanks,

Quote from: najdorf on August 05, 2013, 02:00:10 PM
Sometimes, I forget punctuations at the end of sentences, and forget to start a sentence with a capital letter. And when I do that, it bugs me. It's not something big, but it also bugs me to see other players doing the same.

Therefore, I think it would be nice if code automatically checks every sentence, and capitalize it. Also, if a sentence is not ending with a proper punctuation, it can add a dot.

If code can not do this, is there a way I can do that by myself? Can you help me with such a script in MushClient? Thanks,

The code will already do some of the simpler things like capitalize your first letter in emotes, and add a period at the very end. Going beyond that seems like it would get pretty complicated.

My previous MUDs did this.  I always think I can spot fellow refugees when I see people forgetting to capitalize the first letter of a say and add the last punctuation.  Whenever I recruit players over, I warn them about that and they still do it!

Anyway, so it's possible with code.  Whether it's worth it, I dunno.  I'm not sure why I do it with MUDs, it's not like I forget when writing in any other venue.  Sure was a hard habit to beat.

Quote from: Quell on August 05, 2013, 02:04:37 PM
Quote from: najdorf on August 05, 2013, 02:00:10 PM
Sometimes, I forget punctuations at the end of sentences, and forget to start a sentence with a capital letter. And when I do that, it bugs me. It's not something big, but it also bugs me to see other players doing the same.

Therefore, I think it would be nice if code automatically checks every sentence, and capitalize it. Also, if a sentence is not ending with a proper punctuation, it can add a dot.

If code can not do this, is there a way I can do that by myself? Can you help me with such a script in MushClient? Thanks,

The code will already do some of the simpler things like capitalize your first letter in emotes, and add a period at the very end. Going beyond that seems like it would get pretty complicated.

Sorry, I forgot to mention. It is correct with emotes. Would be good if it can also be done with talk and tells inside the quote marks.

The downside is unwanted auto-punctuation in sing/recite commands - but there could be an exception for those in the code.

I would love this so much.  So much.
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I'd love this too.

I feel such guilt whenever I forget to add a punctuation mark.
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Quote from: Quell on August 05, 2013, 02:04:37 PM
The code will already do some of the simpler things like capitalize your first letter in emotes, and add a period at the very end. Going beyond that seems like it would get pretty complicated.

No, this is an extremely simple task. It may or may not register as a staff priority, but it would be nice to have.

I see this as a potential problem. It might cause for a lot of incorrect capitalization and punctuation.
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Quote from: LauraMars on August 05, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
I'd love this too.

I feel such guilt whenever I forget to add a punctuation mark.

I'm so bad with typos I just don't give a fuck anymore. (Also starting to think I'm dyslexic.)

Quote from: slvrmoontiger on August 05, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
I see this as a potential problem. It might cause for a lot of incorrect capitalization and punctuation.

But couldn't you have a choice between having it and not?
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This would promote laziness. I play at MUDs that do this, sometimes. It's a sentence with beginning capitalization and ending punctuation, but every other should-be-capitalized word within said say is incorrectly capitalized and poorly punctuated. I much prefer things the way they are now, where someone occasionally slips up and the people who aren't making an effort are shown what they should be trying to do.

Quote from: MeTekillot on August 05, 2013, 07:55:41 PM
This would promote laziness. I play at MUDs that do this, sometimes. It's a sentence with beginning capitalization and ending punctuation, but every other should-be-capitalized word within said say is incorrectly capitalized and poorly punctuated. I much prefer things the way they are now, where someone occasionally slips up and the people who aren't making an effort are shown what they should be trying to do.

I have played other muds that handle it differently. I have to say that I think making caps and punctuation at all 'auto' outside -just- making it a point for the last part of the words to end with -some- sort of punctuation (defaulting to a period) and that words spoken start with a capital (what I view as the barest bones of changing this), anything more would wind up with some of the issues you're referring to, like the incorrect caps and punctuation within the words... and I would prefer not touching the code to anything more than that, but all the same, if the speech could be treated the same way as emotes are (always starts with a capital, always ends with punctuation, even if it's just a period or a comma), it would be helpful to at least a few people.
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I think this would be a great idea because there are some people out there that just DGAF and will not capitalize or punctuate no matter how many times they are coached on it. Also, sometimes I play from my phone, and I know others do too, and it's really tedious to do so as it is on a 4.7" screen, let alone 75% of it getting taken up by an onscreen keyboard.
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I'm going to venture a guess that dwarves would be able to disable this feature, right?
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Quote from: i can haz mantis on August 05, 2013, 11:43:21 PM
I think this would be a great idea because there are some people out there that just DGAF and will not capitalize or punctuate no matter how many times they are coached on it.

I used to be very annoyed at that until I broke my wrist and was forced to type with one hand. It was so tiring I stopped playing for a month or two. You never know if the other player is having to deal with a disability of some kind. In short, I'm in favor of auto capitalization and punctuation, even if it "promotes laziness".

I suppose I am slightly against the idea because I want. to know who is at least trying.
Though I suppose if you could toggle it on and off that would put me more in the "Meh" mindset .
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Quote from: Molten Heart on August 06, 2013, 12:31:46 AM
I'm going to venture a guess that dwarves would be able to disable this feature, right?

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Quote from: X-D on August 06, 2013, 05:05:08 AM
I suppose I am slightly against the idea because I want. to know who is at least trying.
Though I suppose if you could toggle it on and off that would put me more in the "Meh" mindset .
I don't really give a damn about who's trying and who's not. I want to see caps and punctuation, all the time. The only thing I care about is if they are trying to have a good character.
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Shrug, I do not want them all the time...When you get them all the time (And I have tried these muds) You get a totally different set of annoyances. But still, You had 10 people, 5 wanted this fix, 5 did not, You put it in, First five happy and second 5 pissy now.

I really think this is a situation of "It ain't broke.".

Though, To quantify how lightly against the idea I am without a toggle. Picture a line, -10 to +10...0 being "meh"...I am currently at -1. Give me a toggle and I move directly to 0 and leave the discussion. :)
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I play IRE muds which have auto-punc. I play Arm which doesn't. I manage to be super lazy and let the IRE mud do my work for me, and simultaneously play Arm and do it all myself without a problem.

I'm okay with being 'lazy', so implement it. :P
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could ban punctuation because it doesnt do anything lets be honest

There's only one thing I would like to see automated: when someone types an I, with a space in front and a space or punctuation mark immediately following. The word "I" is always capitalized, in all instances, without exception. So I'd be really happy if the game forced that one capitalization.

But since it isn't forced automatically by the game, all you lazy forgetful types *could* do yourselves and everyone else a favor, and alias it in your game client. There's really no excuse to -not- capitalize the word I.
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