Just a wingy idea I had, and don't even know if it could work --
We can pack containers on mounts. I imagine in wartime, soldiers would pack a few weapons, especially since you cannot sheathe a weapon if you plan on using a bow in most cases.
Perhaps certain containers packed, like saddlebags, could provide a pair of sheathes on a mount?
Thoughts?
That sure would be handy. Equally handy: pull quiver working for quivers that are packed on your mount.
Win.
Doesn't make much sense to me. Unless there's a heavy delay to drawing a weapon from a sheathed mount. Lol, but pulling an arrow from a quiver on a mount does make more sense than unsheathing the sword on your inix.
Quote from: SMuz on May 23, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
Doesn't make much sense to me. Unless there's a heavy delay to drawing a weapon from a sheathed mount. Lol, but pulling an arrow from a quiver on a mount does make more sense than unsheathing the sword on your inix.
And pulling an arrow from a quiver placed where you want it on a mount would be much easier than fumbling around behind your back or under you cloak and around your waist.
I would love this for so many ways. It gave me a wicked mental image concerning archers and inix. Pull quiver mount would rock sheath/draw weapon mount would almost be as cool but not nearly as sexeh.
Awesome idea and totally logical too. There are designed sheathes specifically made for horses. And hell, there are specific objects in the game that hint on the possibility of allowing this.
Only problem I can foresee is the coded problem, but shrug ... our Imms are awesome.
If we get this I'd really like "pack <item> into <item> on <mount>"
Lol, I've never heard of people sheathing weapons on their horses.
Quote from: a strange shadow on May 23, 2009, 01:21:13 PM
If we get this I'd really like "pack <item> into <item> on <mount>"
I'm all for that idea instead, though.
Quote from: SMuz on May 23, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
Lol, I've never heard of people sheathing weapons on their horses.
I wouldn't say it's entirely unknown ...
http://www.history.army.mil/images/museum/showcase/myer/OG-6.jpg
http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/highnoonauction/18065/0114_1_lg.jpg
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cef/equipment/cefe25.jpg
I don't know how Arm is coded exactly, but look at this.
list
#1 a war beetle 500 coins
#2 a well-equipped war beetle 800 coins
buy well-equipped
You give a blue-robed, hard-nosed templar many coins in exchange for a well-equipped war beetle.
You jump on a war beetle's back.
(wearloc <saddle $mount> added)
l beetle
It looks just like a war beetle.
<on back> A well-equipped saddle with a sheath
draw sword
You draw an obsidian longsword.
sheathe sword saddle
You sheathe an obsidian longsword in a war beetle's saddle sheath.
dismount
You dismount a war beetle.
(wearloc <saddle $mount> removed)
##################################
A lanky yellow gith dodges your slash.
A war beetle throws you from its back!
(wearloc <saddle $saddle> removed)
You know...something like that.
Quote from: Solifugid on May 23, 2009, 09:38:02 AM
That sure would be handy. Equally handy: pull quiver working for quivers that are packed on your mount.
WEll if you could just pack the quiver and pull quiver from mount then you can pull spear quiver.mount or what have you including bows as there are quivers that will hold various weapons.
that said somewhere i proposed that they let you pack a shield on you mount, logically IRL this could be done.
I'm in favor of this idea as well.
You can:
-Pack a shield to a mount
-Pack two weapons to a mount
-Pack a quiver to a mount
Make it:
Impossible to draw anything from a mount while unmounted.
I would rather make it impossible to draw anything from a mount you're not hitched to.
Drawing something from a mount you're not mounted on seems pretty easy to me, you just reach over and pull it free.
Quote from: musashi on May 24, 2009, 07:28:39 AM
I would rather make it impossible to draw anything from a mount you're not hitched to.
Drawing something from a mount you're not mounted on seems pretty easy to me, you just reach over and pull it free.
Sure.
Quote from: Thunkkin on May 23, 2009, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: SMuz on May 23, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
Lol, I've never heard of people sheathing weapons on their horses.
I wouldn't say it's entirely unknown ...
http://www.history.army.mil/images/museum/showcase/myer/OG-6.jpg
http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/highnoonauction/18065/0114_1_lg.jpg
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cef/equipment/cefe25.jpg
Ahh.. I was imagining it like someone putting a sword atop an elephant (inix) then unsheathing it from the ground, which seems a bit ridiculous :P
I'm fine with it then, but just as long as it comes with a massive delay to do it if unmounted. A bit less with the quiver. It's not simply pulling it free, it's pulling it free at the right angle. And size differences.
Quote from: SMuz on May 24, 2009, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Thunkkin on May 23, 2009, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: SMuz on May 23, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
Lol, I've never heard of people sheathing weapons on their horses.
I wouldn't say it's entirely unknown ...
http://www.history.army.mil/images/museum/showcase/myer/OG-6.jpg
http://archive.liveauctioneers.com/archive4/highnoonauction/18065/0114_1_lg.jpg
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cef/equipment/cefe25.jpg
Ahh.. I was imagining it like someone putting a sword atop an elephant (inix) then unsheathing it from the ground, which seems a bit ridiculous :P
I'm fine with it then, but just as long as it comes with a massive delay to do it if unmounted. A bit less with the quiver. It's not simply pulling it free, it's pulling it free at the right angle. And size differences.
I personally think you shouldn't be able to unsheathe it unless you are mounted.
I don't see how you could unsheathe a sword from a saddle on the back of an inix, or even a war-beetle. A horse -- Even that'd be difficult, considering the angle.
If it has a clasp that prevents it from falling out, and it is angled sideways say on a horse, I don't see how that'd be anything but convenient for an unmounted person.
The delay could be longer for unsheathing a weapon on a beast that you are not mounted on. That would seem to be most realistic to me.
Dunno. Just from looking at the pictures Thunnkin posted, I can imagine something like an inix...Which is supposed to be a dinosaur in a sense, right?..I can imagine it being difficult to get to the saddle, where the weapons are located.
And I don't think the weapon would be clasped sideways. The hilt of the weapon would be angled vertically, not perpendicular to the ground, but definitely in an upwards direction.
Solution:
command emote + draw weapon from mount + require mount to be hitched (but not mounted) + increased delay when not mounted = less spam.
I will always be in favor of including all possibilities (erdlu aren't as big as an inix, and a half-giant could easily pull a hammer from a beetle's saddle) and allowing the player to describe how they're performing an action, rather than hard-lined code limitations.
Quote from: a strange shadow on May 24, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
Solution:
command emote + draw weapon from mount + require mount to be hitched (but not mounted) + increased delay when not mounted = less spam.
I will always be in favor of including all possibilities (erdlu aren't as big as an inix, and a half-giant could easily pull a hammer from a beetle's saddle) and allowing the player to describe how they're performing an action, rather than hard-lined code limitations.
I like it.
Quote from: a strange shadow on May 24, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
Solution:
command emote + draw weapon from mount + require mount to be hitched (but not mounted) + increased delay when not mounted = less spam.
I will always be in favor of including all possibilities (erdlu aren't as big as an inix, and a half-giant could easily pull a hammer from a beetle's saddle) and allowing the player to describe how they're performing an action, rather than hard-lined code limitations.
Yep.