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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: JollyGreenGiant on August 06, 2003, 02:44:15 PM

Title: Shields
Post by: JollyGreenGiant on August 06, 2003, 02:44:15 PM
I saw something in another thread, some time ago, about when you have a shield wielded, but no weapon.  I didn't really pay much attention to it at the time, but recently, I experienced it first-hand.  If you have a shield but no weapon, the game seems to be treating it as if you're fighting completely unarmed.  I suppose technically, you're "unarmed" at that point, but it seems wrong, somehow.  If you were offwielding even a dagger, you'd block more blows than if you're holding just a shield, which doesn't seem quite right.  Is this something that should be fixed, or that even can be fixed?
Title: Shields
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2003, 03:20:36 PM
Get better with your shield is all I have to say. I had an assassin without parry and was disarmed. I must have blocked four rounds of attacks before realizing I had been disarmed, then grabbing up my weapon. Shielding is a highly underrated skill as it is.
Title: Shields
Post by: on August 06, 2003, 04:05:09 PM
Also what helps when having just one weapon as opposed to just a shield is the attacker's self-preservation. One might be a little more wary on the attack when there's a chance they're going to take a stab in the side.

But also, get better at shield_use :P
Title: Shields
Post by: on August 06, 2003, 04:28:08 PM
I had a half-giant bynner who could only use a shield in sparring for a good while. And I can say that it never felt like I was 'unarmed', in a sense of just being hit. My shield would catch maybe 1 out 5 when I first started, and gradually built up to where I was blocking maybe half the time, and then another 25% being actually hitting my shield, and then getting hit or dodging the last 25%.

It also helps if you wield the shield instead of holding it if you have no weapon.
Title: Shields
Post by: JollyGreenGiant on August 06, 2003, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: "Tony"But also, get better at shield_use :P

K.  :)

Thanks for the replies, btw.  You people are amazingly useful.
Title: Shields
Post by: creeper386 on August 06, 2003, 06:47:46 PM
From my experiences it's probably going to be a fairly older character before you get good enough to make a shield useful.

Personally think shields should be the easiest form of defense.

Creeper
Title: Shields
Post by: Lazloth on August 06, 2003, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: "creeper386"From my experiences it's probably going to be a fairly older character before you get good enough to make a shield useful.
I completely disagree.
Title: Shields
Post by: Anonymous on August 06, 2003, 08:26:30 PM
I recently had a shield wielding character and the shield was handy right off the bat. After 2 days it was very nice, could handle a couple of gortoks at the same time.
Title: Shields
Post by: Gar on August 07, 2003, 08:43:47 AM
With an experienced shield user, you will block quite a few blows, unarmed.
Title: Shields
Post by: Jacques on August 07, 2003, 09:14:49 AM
Wanted to start off by agreeing with many of the above posts. With shield_use, you can do AMAZING things with a shield. To say nothing of posing nude, and holding it in front of your naughty bits! But that's another topic...

I will also say that for characters who DON'T have shield_use, I've seen a BIG difference in the amount of times I hit them when sparring. It's a case of being hit EVERY round versus being hit two out of every three, or a similar proportion. Sure, you're still getting hit, but you're getting hit less.

And in this case, less is more! Less hits, more fighting time!  :twisted:
Title: Shields
Post by: spawnloser on August 07, 2003, 03:21:21 PM
Wow...some guilds don't get shield use???
Title: Shields
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2003, 04:13:48 PM
Wrong, every guild gets shielding and dual wielding.

Some are far better at it than others.
Title: Shields
Post by: spawnloser on August 07, 2003, 05:39:28 PM
That's what I thought...hell, even merchants get shield use and dual wield...not that they can dual-wield anything other than shields.  (Note: Do not do this...I'm joking.  It is frowned upon, from everything I've heard.)